The bodies of the dead are still in the school at this hour and Americans who believe in the Constitution already feel the need to defend their right to carry guns against politicians and media outlets who are trying to start a ‘national conversation’ about gun control. But Levin says they don’t really want a national conversation about it. They don’t talk to talk about movies and TV or the fact that we’re not teaching our kids right from wrong in the classrooms or the politicians who always seek to divide Americans against each other. They just want to talk about taking our bill of rights away from us, he says.

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James
James

Teachers are taught to bring the most money for the union coffers. Nothing else matters. In the big cities, two or three kids are killed every week. Do you here about that? In a matter of days someone from the White House will call this the new norm.

LIBERTYUSA
LIBERTYUSA

... oh Great one this is why we love you so ."

Goldbug36
Goldbug36

Three things lead to such horrific events:

(1) School-to-work Program (straight from the Communist Manifesto), which disallows all "geeky" kids being different or thinking outside the box, i.e., they must become obedient programmed zombies. This builds deep resentments.

(2) Violent, realistic, VIDEO GAMES that train kids to be expert marksmen and lose all sensitivity to and empathy for others; and

(3) PSYCHOTROPIC DRUGS: Psychiatrists know the dangers of these drugs, yet they continue prescribing them to their troubled and/or "different" kids. Experience and studies show that these dangerous drugs lead to homicidal and suicidal ideations.

Instead of focusing (yet again) on gun control or whether we drink super-sizes or eat salt, sugar and Michele's approved veggie diet, perhaps they should correct the real problems. Until we, as a nation, address our dying culture and our spiritual and moral bankruptcy, these killings will occur again and more frequently.

NJK
NJK

Chicago is a city which has strict gun control. How many murders have they had this year?

As of Oct. 30, 436.

They aren't noticed because they aren't all at once, in one location. To any politician thinking about this, you better think again.

By the way, the govt. is responsible for thousands of deaths from LEGISLATION CALLED CAFE STANDARDS. I WANT LETHAL, UNCONSTITUTIONAL LEGISLATION TAKEN OUT OF THEIR MURDEROUS HANDS.

H. Sterling Burnett of the National Center for Policy Analysis adds that NHTSA data indicate that “322 additional deaths per year occur as a direct result of reducing just 100 pounds from already downsized small cars, with half of the deaths attributed to small car collisions with light trucks/sport utility vehicles.” USA Today further calculated that the “size and weight reductions of passenger vehicles undertaken to meet current CAFE standards had resulted in more than 46,000 deaths.”

These lethal regulations should be wrapped in yellow police “CAUTION” tape. The tradeoffs are stark and simple: CAFE fuel standards clamp down on the production of larger, more crashworthy cars. Analysts from Harvard to the Brookings Institution to the federal government itself have arrived at the same conclusion: CAFE kills. Welcome to the bloody intersection between the Obama jobs death toll and the Obama green death toll.

THE FEDERAL GOVT. STEALS AND CALLS IT TAXES AND STIMULUS.

THE FEDERAL GOVT. MURDERS AND CALLS IT CAFE STANDARDS.

NJK
NJK

If they're discussing gun control, they need to discuss the ACLU, the Goebbels media, the courts, and Hollywood. They've all played a part in the debauchery of this society. I blame them for glorifying divorce, gay marriage, children out of wedlock, taking God out of schools, and taking the Ten Commandments out of the courts. This is exactly what happens in a Godless society.

They need to be held accountable. WE WILL NOT GIVE UP THE SECOND AMENDMENT, THE FIRST, OR THE TENTH. THE GOVT. IS ALREADY BLATANTLY VIOLATING THE FOURTH AMENDMENT AT AIRPORTS. I'm one angry citizen who's darn sick of having the Bill of Rights violated, simply because a corrupt leftist, is sitting on a court somewhere, hiding behind a black robe, and a bench. Hear that, John Roberts?

WE ARE GOING TO REMOVE THESE CORRUPT JUDGES, THROUGH IMPEACHMENT IF NECESSARY AS WELL AS THESE COMMUNISTS PARADING AROUND AS A LEGITIMATE AMERICAN GOVT.

What really gulls me, is Obama has been inciting violence since the day he came on the scene. He does it through his dispicible union goons, and even on the campaign trail, when he used words like revenge! He then walks around as though he's a beacon of civility. I've had enough.

THIS SHOOTING IS YET ANOTHER PROP FOR THIS DISPICIBLE, EVIL, HITLER LIKE, DESPOT.

mrsjg
mrsjg

My thoughts exactly.....thank you Mark!!!

Jasper Silvis
Jasper Silvis

What we have to watch is over the next few years as some states are starting legal marijuana use, is more and more people using marijuana that have less and less conscience and less and less empathy towards others. Tragedies like this will start to increase as people care less about the consequences of their actions. Liberals will blame guns and will attack anyone who blames the legalize drugs movement.

las1
las1

You can see the effects of drug use simply by listening to Obama's speech about this tragedy. His drug use has exacerbated his psychopathy. As a psychopathic narcissist, Obama has absolutely no empathy. His speech was cold and calculated complete with managed pauses and the wiping of a fake tear.

Jasper, this is a great interview with Sam Vaknin on Obama's narcissistic psychopathy. That's why Obama has no real personality or self. It's utterly fascinating.

Here's part one... you can pick up the other four parts by following the YouTube links.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CUp7qdej8g

Here's a much more extended interview (2 hours long in total... but riveting)

Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmwNrNaTcs4

Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WGqt-iUsoY

I know I've posted these before... but many people have not seen them and the information they predict about Obama are now in the headlines for all to see. The man is simply the worst thing to happen to America... I would argue if unchallenged and allowed to continue will be worse than the Civil War. And I don't say that lightly.

Orangeone
Orangeone

Be careful my friend las1, johnny is going to come and troll you :)

I personally give your post 1,000 likes!

DebbyX
DebbyX

I loved that interview and I'll watch it again. Really great links, thanks for posting them again!

God help us.

ryanomaniac
ryanomaniac

Watch the news and this is what you will hear when they talk about the weapons that should be banned. They will call rifles...assault rifles. Instead of semi-automatic they'll call them machine guns or fully automatic assault weapons.

The Second Amendment was created to guard against a tyrannical government. Hence the right to bear arms. The framers wanted us to have bad ass guns. How in the hell can you fight against a tyrannical government with single shot shotguns?

las1
las1

Washington spent eight years in the Revolutionary Wars... eight long years and only one week at Mount Vernon. Americans should be eternally grateful to his understanding of the need for a prepared militia with guns to defend and obtain freedom. That's how important the 2nd Amendment is that they enshrined it as an unalienable right in the Bill of Rights. It's unalienable because it "shall not be infringed".

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

ApplePie101
ApplePie101

Gun owners don't need to engage in 'conversations'.

This is not a gun issue, it's a school security issue. Lanza could have been neutralized by armed security before he got near any children. The problem is that there were not enough guns in that school.

ryanomaniac
ryanomaniac

These liberals probably like to drink alcohol I'm sure and have no problem with it when it kills more children in this country than guns ever could. Hypocrites. Liberals, its your destruction of any moral code in this country that serves things like this on a platter. You create the disease but don't want to cure it...you just want to try and cure the symptoms which is impossible.

Orangeone
Orangeone

One need only look at fetal alcohol syndrome to have reason to ban alcohol. I'm sure it has absolutely nothing to do with the mother ingesting it! /sarc

Pyrran
Pyrran

And they love abortion. How many people are killed every day?

Kordane
Kordane

I'm more to the Right than most people here, but even I'm pro-choice. I regularly argue that foetuses/cells aren't individuals until they're autonomous. If a pre-viable foetus or clump of cells was an individual, then its existence (within the mother) would violate the individual rights of the mother.

Libertyship46
Libertyship46

Levin brings up an important point. Nobody ever wants to discuss the impact the media has on these crazy people. Why is it that we never, ever, had so many mass shooting in this country in the 1940s, 1950s, and most of the 1960s? After all, there were plenty of guns in America in those days. In fact, on a per capita basis, you could probably make the case that there were more guns available in those days than there are today since the gun laws were almost non-existant from the 1940s to the 1960s (and the ones that were on the books were not nearly as tough as they are today). So what happened? Did we as a society become more violent? How come there were no Oklahoma City-type bombings in the 1950s? Maybe its because, as a nation, we were more prosperous in those days and had a greater emphasis on maintaining traditional family units? Maybe it's because we had more two-parent homes rather than single-parent homes? Maybe it's because the black community was more stable and had more complete families, unlike today where roughly 70% of black kids are born into single-family homes? Maybe it's because of the hyper-violence you see in our movies and video games today, making the idea of killing a lot more palatable to mentally ill people who see these images? Maybe it's because of the explosion of drugs in America and all the gang violence that goes with it? And I could go on, and on, and on.

We never seem to examine either our culture or our media and until we do that, you're going to see a lot more of these types of shootings. It's easy to blame guns. It's a lot harder for the people in this country (especially liberals) to take a critical look at the people who USE those guns.

Orangeone
Orangeone

Not to bring up the obvious, but how many of Hitler's victims were shot vs. gassed....

John L
John L

Look what GUN CONTROL did for Benghazi embassy staff.

Orangeone
Orangeone

Post of the day goes to John L! 10,000 LIKES sir.

Juan999
Juan999

We need to control criminals and politicians. In some cases they're one and the same.

Jay
Jay

Some people are missing the point of gun control. Like Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, and all the other gun grabbers in history, it's about tyranny and nothing else. They take our guns and then we do what they want. Period. And I'll bet the per capita rate of these killings was much lower when we still had public hangings. These crazy people are cowards, they never go shoot up a police station or gun range where someone will shoot back. The only answer is deterence- an armed populace and speedy capital punishment.

Orangeone
Orangeone

How about a little reminder of Jim Jones???? 909 dead, 303 of them children. Kool-aid should be banned right, oh wait, the Barky Boy flavor should be :)

Marky_D
Marky_D

You guys need to implement strict gun control 'cos you know a fully grown adult would never have been able to kill a group of 6year olds with a knife or a sledgehammer...

Oh wait....

Orangeone
Orangeone

Or kool-aid. Posted re: Jim Jones below, killed 303 children with kool-aid

white531
white531

It is simple, really. We have grown away from the religious base that this country was founded upon. Its not meant to be an argument. I don't really feel like arguing with you about it. Its simply a fact, and you know it, as well as I do.

This is the result, of moving away from belief in God.

Marky_D
Marky_D

As an atheist I have to say I actually agree with you.

Susanna958
Susanna958

Someone should suggest to them that if there were ever a gun ban, it would have to include guns carried now by personal body guards. Why should only the rich and famous have access to protection? Now that I think about it, shouldn't the govt. provide guns to the poor? ;-)

librtifirst
librtifirst

Maybe the working poor. Not the welfare poor.

Edit: If we are willing to give guns to Al Qaeda to fight in Libya and Syria, then we should probably give them to Americans as well.

sDee
sDee

some animals are more equal than others

Herb Wunar Sr.
Herb Wunar Sr.

The weapons were reported as property of the mother that was shot. maybe she should have kept them in a proper safe under lock and key then her retarded / troubled son would not have had access to them. Adults who own firearms are responsible for there use. Guns properly stored DO NOT KILL.

Orangeone
Orangeone

We don't know that the guns weren't locked. The son stole her keys and her car. There is a case of a teenager in MN that axed his family to death. Sick people will find a way to kill when they want to kill.

K-Bob
K-Bob

Doug Ross has a nicely done post—with a graph (dude always finds a graph)—showing the real problem. BONUS: Doug exposes the stupidity of Ezra Klein in the process.

Orangeone
Orangeone

Thanks for the link! Pictures are certainly worth a thousand words.

las1
las1

Excellent.

aZjimbo
aZjimbo

Thank God for the great one. What the hell has happened to this country?

proudhispanicconservative
proudhispanicconservative

They can talk all they want, but nothing is going to come of it, this is America and we are not going to surrender our rights just like that, plus we have the NRA which in my view is the most powerful organization in the world, mark my words any republican, democrat, that pushes for gun control like that are toast, except in corrupt left wing states aka NY, Ca, etc. Now what I am afraid will happen, Boehner is going to give Obama his tax increases and what is going to happen is we are going to lose the house therefore giving the democrats complete power, and we all remember what happened last time they had all that power, (Obama Care for instance), that's why it is imperative that we replace Boehner, and any republican that votes to increase taxes.

John
John

An inconvenient fact:

only a person with a gun could stop him.....

Take all your gunlaws, print 'em on toilet paper and use it!

librtifirst
librtifirst

I went and saw a movie tonight, and took a gun. Funny thing: Nobody died. Funnier thing: I had predetermined what I would do if a shooter came in.

I got lucky and lived through the movie.

deeme
deeme

In the last five years , I have met more troubled 20 year olds., all with one thing in common they came from broken homes, ...it wasn't guns that made them troubled..for most it was either a troubled relationship with one or both parents an addiction or the lack of hope for their future..some coming out of school with very large student loans. Our kids don't know their place anymore..because instead of doing what we did and having a family, they are taught , life is all about me..I'm sorry but I see the values becoming so shallow that there is nothingness..They think they are more important then God or anyone else..or they think they are nothing..Many are on drugs or started using drugs as young as fifth grade..You want to have a conversation , have it about the right thing..Teaching our kids respect for life, for their elders, for the very young..What really strikes me is that with FAst and Furious , they passed the guns out like they were chocolate..how can we have a conversation with people who Play games...??? You would have to outlaw everything from being a parent, to videos, to movies, to playstation games ,to songs ...I know this administration is fine with outlawing things, but seriously..You can't legislate evil out of the World..You can only wonder how at 20, someone could be so evil...???

redheadgrl
redheadgrl

This has been my thought today, what is wrong with this generation of young people that they have no respect for life? They have no way of coping with the ups and downs of life but to go on violent rampages (shootings, flash mob beatings, etc)? How many of these kids have been on some form of mind-altering drugs like ritalin since early childhood?

The cause of these massacres is much deeper than the guns used in the crime.

BikerHoop
BikerHoop

They have no respect because they were not taught respect. It has nothing to do with drugs. Granted, the drugs don't help, but without the drugs they are still lacking respect.

I remember very vividly my grandpa and my dad teaching me respect. Sometimes it was a stern "talking to" and other times it was the switch or leather belt. They weren't abusive (was that even a word back them?), but I learned nonetheless.

Respect for your elders was the big one as was respect for other people and their things. We learned the difference between 'respect' and "Respect". One is given, the other earned. 'respect' means you don't mess with other people and their stuff because they have the right not to be messed with. "Respect" is that which is earned, not given.

Start teaching kids respect again and a lot of the crap kids are doing today will stop, at least for the most part.

librtifirst
librtifirst

Some parents are actually treating child disorders such as ADD with nutrition. Our health problems are vast, and complex, but the answers to them are actually quite scientifically simple.

The body needs many things that we do not get in our food today. In this nutrient deficient society we have drug companies who literally run the government. The government has what is called the CDC, and an army of government "scientists". Health that are put out by government, and reported widely by the media, and studies are done by "scientists" that began their studies with a predetermined outcome handed down from the government who is run by the drug companies.

The determinations of the studies are generally antithetical to health solutions, and always favor bad health and drug solutions that only mask symptoms, and create others while damaging organs in the body.

Since our bodies are nutrient starved, the chemical bombardment is actually more effective at creating disease, and there is always another drug created for these diseases, which quickens the death of their victims. (us)

Genetically modified organisms in our food cause much damage. They have been proven to cause sterility and allergies. They are extremely damaging to the digestive system. The staple crops are grown with GMO seed that is designed to be resistive to the chemical Roundup, which is produced by Monsanto. The crops are sprayed twice during the growing season with Roundup. The Roundup absorbs into the plant and the fruit, but the plant does not die.The Roundup accumulates in the soil year after year, so every crop gets more and more chemicals in the plants. Roundup is poisonous to humans, yet this is no problem for the Monsanto FDA. There used to be a warning on the label when you bought it that said "wait at least two weeks before planting food after spraying". Now they just spray the crops directly, and there is no warning on the bottle.

Soy is now mostly a GMO crop. It is also processed with the chemical Hexane, which is toxic to humans.

Our meat supply is grown using only GMO feed, which causes the animals to have such a bad immune system that they have to raise them on anti-biotics. The stomach linings of the cattle is so damaged that if they are not butchered, they would die early anyway. Acidosis eats up their stomachs. The antibiotics are in the meat that we eat and effect our immune systems.

The solution to most health problems today is the following.

1: Detox the body.

2: Eat organic foods only.

3: Flood the body with nutrients. (fresh juices and/or vitamin and mineral supplements)

4: Make sure that you use only non-fluoridated water for showering and consumption, and switch to a fluoride free toothpaste.

5: When the government comes out with a study, and the media pounds it out there, ignore it or do the exact opposite and you will do fine.

6: Quit eating breads and pastas that contain gluten. Today's wheat gluten is really bad for us.

7: Eat lots of eggs. The government "studies" lied. I have eaten an average of ten eggs per day over a year, and no negative health effects. Quite the contrary.

8: Refuse all vaccines. They cannot be trusted to produce safe vaccines, and vaccines destroy our immune systems, rather than helping. They actually alter our DNA. The Thimerisol mercury preservative is a neurotoxin, and is especially dangerous to children under two years old. They lie about the mercury. Check the inserts.

9: Do all of this, and get off your drugs if you are taking statins or serotonin inhibitors.

10: Clear your mind of a lifetime of government programming. You will feel ten times better.

librtifirst
librtifirst

At 6' 2" tall I maintained about 210 pounds for many years. Not really overweight, I thought. Since I detoxed and went organic I now maintain just over 180lbs without any effort, and weight loss wasn't even a goal. I still eat meat, eggs, etc, they are just organic and I raise the meat myself.

I know that my body was not working efficiently due to lack of nutrients, and the toxins. If I catch a bug now, I never get full blown sick. It is mild and goes away quickly. Much different than my prior experiences. I haven't been to a doctor for a long time.

I'm not an eco-freak, but I am now an advocate for self sustaining organic farming.

I always love to hear other people's stories and opinions. Thanks for your input.

redheadgrl
redheadgrl

Thanks for taking the time to list all these issues out. I used to work for a lab that did blood/urine/saliva/poo testing for doctors in "functional medicine". When I started, I thought it was all bogus. But, the more I researched to do my job, the more I learned about how we are basically poisoning ourselves through our diet. There is a reason americans are so overweight, and it's not necessarily how much we are eating, but what we are eating. I have since started the primal lifestyle, which incorporates a lot of what you said above. Americans are so willing to believe everything the gov't says to us is true, but when it comes to the food supply, they are just promoting the crops they subsidize, like corn and wheat (ie the SAD is 8-10 servings of grains - which happen to be GMO). It's a big problem, and we have to tackle it individually.

AmericanborninCanada
AmericanborninCanada

They've been taught that they come from slime and that murdering babies in the womb is getting rid of useless tissue clumps. Life has been cheapend for them.

Orangeone
Orangeone

If I may add they are also taught that our Benghazi victims were mere "bumps in the road" and it's okay to go party in Las Vegas as their bodies were still draped with our flag.

deeme
deeme

That is a really good question..I would also like to know how many of these recent killers were on ritalin as kids...I know one that killed himself that was..you can't replace dad with a drug but not only that..these drugs are pretty new..we don't know what they are doing to these kids and now they have a ton of new ones for depression..pills kill...not only that but many are huffing...

Orangeone
Orangeone

And they are being prescribed like candy! If a child has a temper tantrum, oh no, they are ADHD, quick grab the Ritalin. Add in all of the brain stimulation from violent video games, violent speaking politicians, violent TV show, violent movies, violent rap crap and you have a recipe for disaster.

librtifirst
librtifirst

Why don't you enlighten us, since you know the facts? Are you aware of what a selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitor is, or what it does to the brain chemistry? Have you read the insert for the drug so that you are aware of the admitted side effects?

I am guessing that you know nothing about how the drug companies literally run the FDA, or that they wrote Obama Care with the insurance companies. I'm guessing that you know nothing about Agenda 21, or the global eugenics movement.

Do you know what they are pumping babies up with at birth concerning the vaccines? If so, what is in them, and how does it effect the brain, and at what stage of life is it the most dangerous?

Have you done your research on the forced medication by government using sodium fluoride? What is fluoride listed as? When was it first used for ingestion, and for what purpose?

What is the effect of all of these things combined? How do the symptoms manifest themselves? Why is it that autism has gone from 1 in 10,000 a hundred years ago, to 1 in 88 today? Why is it that neurological diseases are on a steady rise and killing off many thousands per year now?

Maybe before you speak, you should do your research on all of the things that cause neurological damage in children today.

Charles Morgan
Charles Morgan

Nonsense, Deeme. Ritalin has been around for many decades. We know exactly what Ritalin and related drugs do. Research the facts before spouting off.