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Creating amnesty, A good way to build government. So we start with an Amnesty Czar and then form a new Amnesty department. I am sure they could handle a nice billion dollar budget to get started. What in the world are we thinking about. Amnesty is not the answer. I think our Constitution use to say something about protecting America and its citizens. Amnesty is not the way to accomplish that goal. It only weakens our country and certainly weakens our laws. Amnesty is a fast way to destroy America, I am sure the democrats will be for that.
I've posted these numbers as comments on other articles, but wanted to post them again here to further drive home the foolishness of any GOP embrace of an illegal alien amnesty. The Hispanic population is 3% in Ohio, 5% in Virginia, 4% in Wisconsin, 6% in Pennsylvania, 3% in Michigan, and 2% in Iowa. In Michigan, Wisconsin, and Iowa, even if the entire Hispanic populations had voted for Romney, he would've lost. Additionally, the Republican high water mark with the Hispanic vote was George W. Bush's 40% in 2004. Why would you greatly expand a constituency of which, historically, at least 60% will vote Democrat? Romney lost because he fared poorly with working class whites. Note that a 2% swing in the white vote is greater than a 7% swing in the Hispanic vote in terms of raw numbers. Romney only received 58% of the white vote. Reagan received 64 or 65% in 1984. The GOP needs to find a way to appeal to working class whites. Maybe moving away from free trade and globalization positions would help. Additionally, note that, although Romney lost Nevada, Dean Heller retained his Senate seat there with a larger Hispanic share than
Romney. And Heller has earned an A+ grade on immigration limitation from Numbers USA.
If the republicans embrace amnesty, just end the party and join hands with the democrats.
Not sure if you've caught on yet, but that's exactly the goal of those offering this amnesty crap. It has been their goal for some time now.
It all comes down to us/Americans/the government....never putting our foot down.
As soon as people began gaming the system, we should have put an immediate stop to it.
We didn't.
We didn't want to be racist....or 'mean-spirited'.
We let it get out-of-hand.
And I'm tired of people saying our immigration system is 'broken'.
How can you describe a system as being broken when you're completely bypassing that system????
"We need new regulations!"
NO!
We need to enforce the ones we have in place.
Basically, what's being said is: "Wellllll.....we didn't enforce the original regulations.....but we promise we'll enforce the new regulations!"
No dice.
Enforce what we have or look for a new job.
And we can absolutely get back into the White House if use the same tactics as the Left.
Employing minority conservatives (busloads) to protest the news centers that refer to the Republicans as racists.
Demand air time, and apology....and make a HUGE stink about it e-v-e-r-y time they do it.
Create bills/programs that relate to children, the environment, poor minorities....and give them names that would be too cruel for anyone to vote against.
(Like 'No Child Left Behind'....You'd have to be heartless to vote against it, right?)
Above all, promise lots and lots of cool shiny stuff.
We cannot forget that citizens traded in their votes for a goddamned 'Obama-phone'.
This is no time to stick our noses in the air and say that we're above that type of campaigning.
We-have-to-get-back-in!!!!!
Hispanics vote 70% Democratic because they believe in democratic economic "give away" policies MORE than they are against Republican anti-illegal immigration ideas. Voting for amnesty, besides continuing the idea that it is no big deal that our country is filled with illegals, just means MORE democrat votes.
Finally, a commentator who has it right. If amnesty is the way to attract more Hispanics to the Republican party, then I say the hell with it. I would sooner lose every election rather than cave in to the pro-amnesty crowd. There are surely other ways to convince Hispanic voters to become Republicans.
If the republicans embrace amnesty, just end the party and join hands with the democrats. I won't vote for any politician rewarding those who come to our country illegally. Why do hard-working, taxpaying citizens have to obey laws? Let's just have a lawless society and everyone can come from all over the world and sponge off our once great nation.
Latinos voted for Bush more because he was their Santa Claus.
After Rush talked about the study that explained the real reason Latinos vote for Democrats, I decided to figure out why they voted for Bush at a higher %. Do a search of BUSH & WELFARE and you will find out that Bush opened up food stamps to illegal aliens in 2002 and also lowered the requirements getting food stamps.
No matter how much free stuff we give them, the Democrats will outbid us. They'll get the illegals no matter what we do.
No. No. No. No.......
We can always offer more free stuff, and we should!
Wave lots and lost of free shiny stuff at them.....get them to our side.
Make promises.....get their votes.
And if we get back in, we privatize welfare, food stamps, head start, etc.
Two years in, it all gets privatized.
.....but we don't mention any of this during the campaign.
Fight dirty!
Buy the damn election, but get back in!!!!!!!
Build a fence. They will still come. Dig a moat. They will still come. Patrol with dogs and guards and drones...... If any of you were living in a cardboard box, sifting through the remnants of a dump hoping to find something edible or of any use, all of you would do anything to get here. After all I don't see too many Canadians coming here illegally. Fix the problem don't treat the symptom.
What Levine said is exactly the point I was trying to get across a few days ago. I get a bit candid, but no personal attacks: http://www.facebook.com/ed.brown.7186/posts/225398180924266
Amnesty was not the reason Hispanics favored Obama. Ronald Reagan got 37% of the Hispanic vote. He then passed a bill that gave amnesty to 3 million illegals. Now his VP runs for president and gets only 30% of the Hispanic vote. Down 7% . Same Republican party that gave them amnesty and they still voted Democrat . So rethink that one
So, basically, you didn't even read what he wrote. Republicans GAVE THEM AMNESTY! The very next election, 70% of them voted for the Democrat.
The immigration issue all comes down to enforcement.
The fact is even if we passed an Immigration Reform Bill, the feds will just ignore the law, again.
Does anybody really believe that any administration will start to enforce the law once it comes into place?
If the CIR comes down the pike, we need to go over the law with a fine tooth comb.
No more of this sanctuary city BS, no more turning a blind eye to those who flout the law, force foreigners to abide by their visas, put teeth in work place enforcement, force those foreigners who commit fraud to be persona non grata forever, make sure no foreigner is dependent on the welfare state, and no foreigner criminal ever gets a pathway to citizenship.
"Yes, we do have a national responsibility for our borders. We need better immigration services, obviously. But if you subsidize something or give people incentives, you get more of it. So if you give easy road to citizenship, you're going to have more illegals. If you have a weak economy, which is understandable and we should have prevented, that's understandable. But mandating to the states that we have to provide free medical care and free education, that's a great burden to all the border states. So I would say eliminate all these benefits and talk about eliminating the welfare state because it's detrimental not only to here but the people that come because that's the incentive to bring their families with them."
I expect the borders to be overwhelmed with more crossings now that they know it will pay off for them. Unfortunately, instead of bringing themselves up to a higher standard, they will turn us into Mexico -the entire country will look like Juarez!
Illegals get government benefits. They express loyalty to the country they came from, refuse to assimilate and join La Raza. How are government dependents a group Republicans can get? When you have both parties promising amnesty, wouldn't they go with the pro-government dependency party no matter what?
Exactly! They don't want to BE Americans, they want to TAKE OVER America because they think we stole it from them.
Ingraham make this point really well on The Factor yesterday.
So...we should go back to the failed Bush policies of which amnesty was one? Because they were SO popular huh? Now we have the Bush crowd saying listen to them even though their administration is very unpopular and getting tarred with them hurts us.
I agree with Mark Levin, pandering to hispanics is the WRONG answer! I'm sick of these beltway pundits, encouraging conservatives to abandon their principles. #pathetic
This is a good example on what has to be done against Obama, resist my governor here in florida says the hell with Obamacare, we have 31 governors and all of them should follow suit.http://m.yahoo.com/w/legobpengine/news/blogs/ticket/florida-gov-rick-scott-still-won-t-implement-153204322--election.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=US&.lang=en-US
i doubt that will happen, some states set up committees back months ago to see the best way to implement it. states who have many on medicaid can not afford to not get help from the fed government, disabled people are on medicaid and states have already cut their care down to the basics.
Stupid elephants. When they give 11 million illegals citizenship - America will be a one party system. Sounds like Boehner has been promised his spot in the political elite.
Obama’s massive Election Day support from Latinos and backers of his immigration stance will no doubt be translated into direct, populist action next year.
http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/11/09/obama-massive-campaign-list-press-agenda/
How is it populist? I mean, amnesty is a sacred cow of the elites and 90 percent of politicians, HOW would it be populist to sell Americans out for foreign nationals?
the fact is the hispanics now outnumber white conservatives, nothing on either side has been done about illegal immigration,. except for barrys back door amnesty, we can not ignore the problem anymore, i dont want them getting free college educations, when others dont get that. they should not get free tax returns, get ss, get disability if they never worked here legally. both sides have to put in safety measures. 2016 2020 will be like 2012 if we don't deal with the problem.
its a huge problem, english needs to be our language, these 13 mill hispanics are not going away. time to deal with it, come up with a sensible plan. we don't have to give amnesty, just come up with a program. we need border security, enforcement, were getting all sorts of trash in at our borders because of one group trying to appease another. this has to be logically worked out with both sides.
If the House would end the borrowing and the money printing the left runs out of money to buy their votes.
They need to enigneer an early start to fiscal crisis Reid and obama have set up. I see no other way out.
sorry have no idea what you mean. myself have wanted enforced borders, security, it has not happened in decades, this is both sides doing this, now they have to come up with a solution.. unless everyone wants barry presidents for ever and ever,. you can work on immigration reform deal with the problem without giving amnesty.
if it is not worked with barry will just give full amnesty. that is a fact. imo
Looks like you are beating a dead horse. He does not understand what you're saying. I do however. Mark Levin is right it may be too late. I'm not sure for 50 years but it may take a while. We have to wake people up. We only lost with 48%. It's not hopeless. we just need to wake people up... they aren't all zombies. If the Republicans that didn't show up to stop the madness apparently have no idea what is really going on in their own country we need to educate them. Personally I don't know how anyone could vote for someone that argued over whether or not to save a child that survived an abortion. However I ran into several people that didn't intend to vote Tuesday. I told them a non-vote is as good as a vote for the side you definately don't want.
both sides need to work on something . 2016 , 2020 will be the same thing come voting time, hispanics in the US out weigh white conservatives. how hard is it to make some rules and follow them., the last 4 decades of doing nothing , helped get the fool reelected. do nothing and enjoy more of that.
They will never enforce our immigration laws. Ever. Because they want America to become the third world, they want us to come to ruin. And they'd want their votes permanently.
BOTH sides can compromise come up with something that works for the majority. barry already did grant amnesty to some in the fall. why ignore the problem, it has to be fixed, the hispanics voted , they will continue to vote.
What is it republicans could to to stop Hussein from granting amnesty? And what would they have to give up, to get it?
both sides need to work together and now, they can't shove it aside anymore, we have 52 million hispanics in this country they came out and voted, and for barry. so the repubs need to work with the dems and lets have some reform.
its already happened.
The democrats do not care about stopping illegal immigration - it benefits them enormously. They do not need the Republicans for anything.
As we speak, the Obama machine is gearing up for amnesty. They have no intention of "working together" on anything. They will force it through just like they did with Obamacare.
Once they get 11 million amnesty voters, they will own the white house and both sides of Congress for 50 years to come. They will then of course start enforcing immigration laws because they will no longer need illegals.
this problem is decades old, barry took advantage of it, so what do you suggest, hate hannity and krauthammer for saying, hey we need to come to some agreement here? we need to rework immigration reform . the hispanics are here and they total 52 million., both sides need to work together.,
We have never needed "reform". All we had to do was act like any sane sovereign nation and enforce our existing laws.
The border fences and immigration "reform" was all a convenient distraction to keep us from seeing their other hand. The influx of illegals was intentional - neither political party ever intend to stop illegal immigration - both sides were looking to co-opt 10 million voters. Hussein won November 6th. It is moot now.
It is far far too late. Obama and the democrats now have the power to instantly create 11 million democratic voters without any help or cooperation from republicans. Why compromise on immigration reform when they can crate permanent power for them selves.
We committed national suicide on Nov 6th. The rats like Boehner in DC are scurrying for favor.
we need immigration reform, can not keep running from the problem, they are here and not leaving, both sides have to work out a agreement, only wise barry will grant full amnesty, we still need border enforcement, security. both sides need to work on it, they should have before 2012 and we maybe would not have gotten stuck with barry again.
What I am saying is that it is too late for any of that. This election was pivotal - Obama's political machine is now unstoppable
Obama does not have to worry about re-election - he will give amnesty to 11 million illegals. Forget the borders, they are here now and the INS is bringing millions more muslims and hispanics in legally. That is a 10- 20 million vote advantage to the Democrats. The spread in this one was only a million or so.
If the elephants do not stop amnesty America will be a one party system
I think it may be time to start a constitutional party if the Republicans are going to sell us out.
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