I agree and have for some time. Elections have consequences. It's well past time for the idiots supporting Obama to get exactly what they voted for. As Margaret Thatcher once said, socialism only works until you run out of other people's money. Let's go ahead and loot everyone to the max and then sit back and watch the firweworks when the OWS crowd has no one to support them. My family has seen this coming for some time and we are stocked up for the coming collapse. let's see how well the socialist slugs do when there is no Uncle Sugar to bail their scumbag butts out.
The UN-Islam-Obama administration:
We'll Tax your food and tax your water.
Let 'good' muslims steal and rape your daughter.
Promote homosex/pedophilia to children,
Force abortion, stop banks/business from building,
You'll live on food stamps and welfare checks
And no dissent or you will lose your necks.
The Fiscal Cliff is just a political ploy for further looting and power-grabbing. The Political Class have been mucking about with the dollar and have made it worthless, a mere electronic blip of no intrinsic value. They manipulate economies, currencies, markets to their own advantage.
In the 'Crisis of 2008' a trillion or so dollars just vaporized off to their private purses and off shore accounts. The politicians' subsequent fix-it measures were more expensive than if they had paid the mortgages of all the poor souls who lost their homes that year.
Evidence and time have proven that the political class doesn't give a tinker's damn about us or the USA, they only care about their purses and their sex lives.
Real honest, hard-working Americans (a dying breed) are stuck between the 'Entitled Class' and the 'Political Class.'
Neither can ever have enough. They will never stop grabbing.
Let the fiscal cliff happen' - Levin
I agree with that. We didn't create it, we warned about it. We didn't push granny over it, we jumped in front of her to attempt to stop the fall. We didn't want expanding entitlements, we wanted less spending.
So, what did we get on November 6th? We got a government that is exactly like what we had for the last four years. Are you kidding me? It looks like common sense and decency are now the minority in this country.
Obama was re-elected, and to do what, exactly?
He has covered up Fast and Furious with his Executive Privilege. He has covered up Benghazi with media lies and misdirection. He's in agreement with the United Nations to control our guns, the internet, and create a new World Government. He dislikes Israel and will eventually cut all ties with her (watch for it).
His desire is to raise taxes (not on just the rich, but on all of us). He has no desire (nor any restraint, now that the election is over) to curtail the excessive spending that defined his first four years so blatantly.
ObamaCare is now the law of the land (save for a small attempt by Liberty University to continue the desire to repeal). Now, people will start to see why he originally set it up to have 10 years worth of taxes and only six years worth of benefits (in order to balance it). Will the average citizen be okay, down the road, to receive 6 years worth of benefits every 10 years of taxation on it? I suspect they never had a clue.
The election was lost for two very big reasons. One, the LameStream deceit was so in-your-face as to no longer be considered Media at all, but rather, Obama's propaganda arm. And two, the electronic election fraud was so massive that it is near impossible to detect and uncover (although I am continuing my efforts to do just that).
The GOP has failed in all regards. We need to create a new party, as many on this site are doing at this very moment. But before that can happen effectively, we need to expose the LameStream deceit and reform the election process to eliminate the electronic fraud once and for all (if ATMs can do it, the election process can do it as well). Without these two accomplishments, no efforts to win back this country will be successful, short of all out revolution (which may be necessary in the end, anyway).
We need to let the fiscal cliff happen. We have little control of that, anyway. The Republicans will be blamed for it, however, as the LameStream already owns that narrative. People (all the people) need to realize what Obama is really about. Massive entitlements will not be sustainable. Pain is sometimes necessary in order to heal.
May God protect us in this coming battle.
it may be the only way to get politicians to address the problem-if they are forced to. Very sad that people w power must be forced to do the right thing. I am guessing most haven't a clue as to what they are doing or how to fix much of anything. Gov. Sarah Palin talks in plain spoken terms about this problem and labeled an idiot. But she has a proven record of fiscal responsibility, how to generate revenue and cut wasteful spending. It's not rocket science. Either we have a lot of very unintelligent people running the show or they are all crooks. Some are both.
Having listened to all three Mark Levin programmes here this morning, I can't help but agree to this, his opinion: let the fiscal cliff happen.
It's like a boil, and it must be lanced, the sooner the better, before the whole body is poisoned.
Sadly, what with his outstanding radar look at Boehner, and his exemplary explanation on taxation, the question surely has to be: how and who can lance this boil?
I'm at the point where I ask Our Lord to remove the dark powers who have now occupied the seats of power, in your and in my country.
But - His will be done, and that is often the hardest prayer and the hardest to accept.
We see today, God sees down the road. I pray all the time for myself, and for the country. Our country needs to get back to the basics and what is really important. Perhaps this is God's way of letting us know. The fact is Americans have become an entitlement society, immersed in material things and abdicating our responsibilities to ourselves, our families and to our fellow human beings. Conservatives denounce redistribution of wealth by liberals but every time a person takes a tax deduction for charitable giving, a mortgage, for having a child, and benefits from sending their kids to public schools, that is wealth re-distribution. We have gotten away from personal responsibility and being accountable for actions having consequences.
'Conservatives denounce redistribution of wealth by liberals but every time a person takes a tax deduction for charitable giving, a mortgage, for having a child, and benefits from sending their kids to public schools, that is wealth re-distribution.' - w
I would respectfully disagree. Taking most deductions on your taxes is merely reducing what you have to pay in, not taking something from someone else. If you were right, then repealing the 16th amendment (which I'm not against) would be an entitlement.
We are not like the politicians who think the money is theirs and we are allowed to get back only our fair share.
I have to say folks, living over here across the pond.....the dollar is quickly losing its value. With the Euro here about to be crashing and the Fed printing money like hot flap jacks....I for the life of me don't understand why NO ONE is talking about the inflation bomb that is about to explode! This should of been sth that Romney & Ryan hit home with and painted obama as a carter on steroids!
Buckle up folks, this ride is abt to get scary! With the Euro abt to crash and the dollar being radically devalued....... its not looking to be a nice couple of years ahead of us!!
Raise my middle class taxes! that will teach those democrats! And the public won't blame republicans, cause after all, we must protect the rich!
Does he have even the slightest idea how this will look? Obama has stated he will pass a middle class tax cut now, cliff or no. Should the Republican party choose to go off the cliff, what do you imagine people will think next time an election comes around? Is the party so depressed about the election that now it is suicidal?
Those in power are pushing the pedal to the floor now because they are afraid.
Of us. Let's justify their fears.
this is the same pathetic crap like when they said "i hope obama fails as president."
thought we're supposed to be patriotic. a fiscal cliff is not in the best favor for this country. stop putting your political party ahead of your country
I say bring on the cliff. Let the takers feel the reality of what they voted for and voted into office. Just prepare. You need to prepare.
Those that haven't yet prepared are likely screwed...
Many of us saw this coming for a while and have, indeed, prepared. Like Ebola131, I will meet the looters with everything I can throw at them.
With a trencher, these looters will make great fertilizer...
Problem with that is - these are largely lawless people who do not respect human life.
Remember Black Friday 2011, 2012? Fighting and killing for Michael Jordans, cell phones?
What will happen when the politicians can't afford to print food stamps?
Widespread looting and killing.
Republicans will lose the tax fight not to raise taxes on the wealthy in my opinion. If Republicans refuse to raise taxes on the rich Obama won't sign the bill as he already stated. If America goes over the fiscal cliff Republicans will be blamed because they refused to 'compromise' to raise taxes on the wealthy (which a full 70% of Americans agree with). Therefore, Republicans should agree to raise taxes on the wealthy, but only if the Obama administration agrees to significant cuts in spending and entitlements.
If Obama refuses to cut spending and deal with entitlements, he and his administration will be held responsible if America goes off the fiscal cliff on January 1st. Therefore, if Obama refuses to cut spending or deal with entitlements, Republicans should withdraw their deal to raise taxes on the wealthy.
Obama has repeatedly said he wants a "balanced approach." If the Obama administration and the Democrats in Congress refuse to 'compromise' with Republicans, they alone will be held liable for America going off the fiscal cliff, not Republicans. Republicans will be seen as the ones trying to compromise to solve America's debt problem(s), while Democrats will appear as obstructionists to solving the problem.
This must be agreed upon quickly by both sides. There is no time to waste since January 1st is right around the corner. Republicans shouldn't waste precious time trying to raise revenue through other means e.g. cap deductions, eliminating loopholes, etc. Those can be dealt with eventually once the new Congress convenes in January. The main priority is to keep America from going over the fiscal cliff on January 1st.
If Obama refuses to cut spending and deal with entitlements then Republicans will be viewed as the ones who tried to solve the problem(s) while Obama will be viewed by the American people as the person who refused to compromise, and thus, the blame will lie squarely on the shoulders of the Obama administration, if indeed, America goes over the fiscal cliff because Obama and Democrats refused to compromise with Republicans on spending and entitlements. If that should happen, then Republicans should see gains in both the House and Senate in 2014.
Somebody with connections needs to get this message to John Boehner. Maybe the Republicans in Congress have already figured this out I dunno. Like I said, Republicans will lose the argument if they seek to raise revenue without raising tax 'rates' on the wealthy. Why? It's elementary. Obama is adamant that he will not sign ANY bill that doesn't raise tax "rates" on the wealthiest 2% of Americans. So therefore Republicans need to put the "ball in Obama's court" saying they will agree to raise taxes on the wealthiest 2%, but only if Obama agrees to significant cuts in spending and entitlements. It is very likely Obama won't agree to significant cuts in spending and entitlements and if that happens Republicans will be off the hook if indeed America goes over the fiscal cliff.
The "low information voters" that elected the Commie are convinced that the GOP is the devil incarnate.
No matter what the R's do, they lose.
So, let it burn...give them nothing.
Yes! Give the people what they voted for, complete destruction of the US and "the old white man" who controls them.
Watch what happens when US becomes a yet another 3rd world country (too late).... and see who "rises" to power. Since children have not been taught the truth since government takeover of public schools (1970's), history has been re-written across the board and all the "old white men" who survived the Great Depression will die soon, Communists win!
Internet will be regulated soon so there will be no.....spreading the word/truth as most books will be lost and only made electronic again to filter words and key phrases.
Someday....HOPEFULLY..all of USA...God willing... will look like and be run like Detroit.
Only then will the idiots who voted for a King this last election understand....Then again...they are the ones who created Detroit in the first place......
The "fiscal cliff" simply refers in large part to a policy of sequestion cuts. That's what the GOP has wanted for years--cuts--and its what they negotiated last year.
Let it burn.
War is coming...be prepared.
The current government is the thief that steals your wallet from your dresser in the middle of the night.
If you keep poking a Wolverine with a sharp stick, you'll get your balls ripped off.
War is coming.
Reading this article and the many comments, I come to the conclusion the majority are in agreement with the article: Hit the Cliff, full speed ahead. While I fear the cliff is too close to avoid could anyone of you please tell me what you think going over the cliff will be like?
Depression. Massive unemployment. Home values plunge. Retirement savings plummet. Crime. Hunger.
It's not simply the increase in taxes that will cause the economy to collapse. It's the combination of that as well as the increase in regulations, the increased cost of servicing the debt, the increase in cost of energy (as the environmentalists are now emboldened to constrict production) and the increase in entitlement spending. Obama is quite simply pulling every lever possible in order to make the economy collapse. In other words, the wagon is at its limit and Obama is piling more and more weight.
Since, IMHO, there is little that we can do to stop him, perhaps the best option is to just let it happen and watch the inevitable and painful results. The biggest risk is that the people that elected him are so stupid that I'm not sure that they will blame him when the entire economy does collapse. My guess is that blaming Bush has reached its shelf life - we're going to see a shift towards blaming the republicans in the house - especially the Tea Party members.
Great, great question and one that a lot of people should be asking! The fiscal cliff that is being tossed around comprises the end of the Bush tax cuts set to go into effect Jan. 1, 2013. This will raise personal income tax levels on all Americans, (at least those who pay income taxes). Then Obamacare is set to trigger additional tax increases on capital investment income, more subsidies to special interest groups who pay little or no income tax, and more likely than not, higher medical insurance pgm costs. Add to this, the temporary payroll tax cut is set to expire the beginning of the new year. These will have big ramaifications on the current economic picture!
This will have a very negative effect on job creation (Or no creation), little capital investment leading to a no growth economy, all this leading to I suspect, higher unemployment. But all kinds of a domino effect at this point!
Now or later, it's going to happen.
They keep giving Greece more money....still bankrupt and will never pay it back.
Might as well be now....let it burn.
The "Cliff" is a talking point!!!! it is like a soft landing in a Recession.....a controlled burn......Hope and Change.....a War on Women....
When your credit card is maxed out you stop spending and get a second job and work your butt off to pay for your mistakes. It is time for loafers to get a job and pay taxes and stop living on printed money and others productivity.
I appreciate your response. Thank you. I am trying to put this at a personal level also but when there are so few jobs to be had and I have expended my savings how do I survive? How do the masses survive? Will there be a major revolt when the taxes go up; the cost to the feds of borrowing more money goes up? requiring even more taxes or cuts to the medicare, medicaid and social security. Do you think there will be major civil unrest by the "loafers" who are getting less but cannot find a job?
This is what scares me; the inner cities explode and bring the unrest and evil to the country so to speak. I am fearful this democracy will end in a very bad way....Thanks again for your view...
Bush and many, many others. Our massive government has been decades in the making. IMO, the major contributors have been the 16th amendment, the New Deal, the Great Society and the almost unchecked growth in government. Perhaps the biggest cause has been the people that have been lulled into this big government nanny-state that is now crushing us.
No no no, its the obama, reid and pelosi pony show that caused this wreck! And if we want to be accurate, W was riding at the front of the show as well!
I will add Reid as a co-conspirator with the lack a Federal Budget for the past 4 years. Without a Budget how do you know what to spend money on???
We voted for more taxes, we should pay more taxes. Either way, LSM will slam the repubiks for wanting to cut off food stamps and "end medicare as we know it" etc. All the while portraying demorats as trying to keep taxes lower for the little guy. If there is going to be pain, then, let it be uniform.
We got tax increases and spending cuts ie the "balanced" approach. Have you ever seen the media ask a demorat for a specific spending cut? I didn't think so. That always falls to the repubik. Although the spending cut is the common ground, you will never see a demorat go out on that limb. My belabored point is: why should anyone else volunteer to be demonized for the next four years, especially, since we voted for tax increases.
Now when it comes to the spending cuts, it WILL BE the repubiks that take the fall. As for me, I would not go out on that limb either, like Ryan did. All posturing.
Have you heard one conservative talking head, but Mark Levin, talk about spending cuts? All I hear is about ways to raise taxes in one way or another.
You are correct about that. However, the MEDIA is always pressing the conservative for SPECIFIC cuts, just to get a talking point for demonetization.
Conservatives might be better off to just let the libs put their balanced approach on the table and then yell "where are the cuts". And if you ever do see any, I guarantee that they won't be real cuts.
The GOP will get blamed no matter what happens, except if things improve, and that is NOT going to happen, so let's go over the fiscal cliff already!! I am so sick of this whole threatening game. CALL BO's bluff, let the cuts begin.