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In addition, this revision also does nothing to protect the religious liberty of nonreligious non-profits and for-profit businesses.
Great post; Mark -- the press and commentators miss the fact that the individual would have no right to exercise his constitutional rights opposing this HHS Mandate on religious liberty grounds. Most of the commentary so far relates to religious institutions and employers. Very little about John P Q Public and his ability to exclude this coverage and its costs from his medical insurance. John does not want to pay for others coverage to kill babies. This revision still requires that or pay a fine and have no medical coverage.
"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson
We: push for all liberties at once. Just got an email from Rand Paul's office. I had signed a petiton he sponsored regarding Right to Life. Have to say I have gotten mail from his office regularly about many things since then, and am impressed with his activism and belief the abortion lobby can be overcome with activity now. Hope we can support him.
Agreed... I'm glad someone is pointing this out. Mark... you rock.
What a travesty. And the damn media backs up the liars in Washington... so, as usual, the lemmings and dumbmasses out there will assume this is fixed and "oh, look how benevolent Obama is"... etc. etc.
This regime is as bad as a 3rd world Muslim regime under Sharia law... same thing. Stifle freedom and religious rights...
And this is happening in America? AMERICA?
God will not be stifled, limited, censored, strong-armed, or mocked. And God's wrath is terrible. This will not end well for those who persecute God's people.
I know Mark is doing what he can fighting the tyranny of this illegal Gov. we are now forced to endure for at least another four years; but he finally at around the 4:00 mark says it all: these are things the Gov. has no business being involved with in the first place. So why are our Gov., Congressional, Executive, and Judicial Branches dictating their Religious preferences over U.S. subjects? Those Religious preferences being the exemption of Islam from the Gov. dictates/mandates while imposing specifically those dictates/mandates upon the Christian Religion and its followers. That answer is the continuation of 60+ years of our Government's attack on Religious freedom and the U.S. Constitution. Specifically, our Gov. is imposing their mandated Religion upon the Public square in specific defiance of the Constitution they have all sworn to uphold.
Mark brings legal mombo jumbo out of the ethereal world, and converts the concept and language so the everyday person can understand.
Here's my question; I don't believe in abortion therefore can I file a suit against the govt because my money is now being used for that and other things to which I have a moral objection? If so, I can see a class action coming.
Well now, if the government can't just come and take your paycheck and give it to someone else.....YOU evil person you.....just what kind of a country do you think we would have then:) I'll bet you are one of them there right wing selfish racists. You just want to provide for your own family. Huh! just what I thought
Aw shucks, you exposed me. :(
Think about it. What if Christians filed a class action to stop our tax dollars from going to Obamacare? We the people are going to have to stop this administration because the GOP is useless.
Robert Muise for Priest for Life and the American Freedom law Center both have filed suits which also seek exemption from HHS Mandate for individual Americans.
I thought of your post when I saw this article. I think they are the best organization for a citizen group to approach re: class action. http://aclj.org/obamacare/court-allows-catholic-diocese-lawsuit-proceed-against-hhs-mandate?sf9129431=1
It will definitely be a class action. The facts and circumstances have to be similar enough for the cases to be joined in class action (approved by the court). Since Hobby Lobby is a business and I'll be suing as an individual, we have different facts and circumstances. That doesn't mean all businesses couldn't try and join together as well as individuals around the country unless separated by judicial districts (have to research that).
It's a bit tougher for the individuals because our penalties have not yet been assessed while the businesses are required to provide the insurance coverage.
I am hoping one of the big groups like ACLJ may take on the case for individuals....I'm going to contact them as I start formulating a solid legal argument.
Um... with that attitude and tenacity, shouldn't you have a tiger as your avatar... instead of a cute little kitten?
You rock! :)
I think Levin is making a great case for the religious freedom. I intend to also make that argument. I don't think what DHHS did with their rule today did anything. Religious orgs have to ensure their employees have a policy that provides birth control and abortion. That is still a cost to the organization and is against their religious liberty.
I'm looking at the ObamaCare individual mandate referred
to by DHHS as “shared responsibility payment”. I will be responsible for the "shared responsibility payment" if I don't have insurance as well as paying for my own medical costs (no burden to the taxpayer). If I keep my insurance I have to pay for other peoples which to me means that I would also have to pay for their homeowners insurance which is wrong.
I'm also facing the penalty for having too good of insurance because my premiums are so high (without the birth control and abortion added in yet). So I'm taxed no matter what I do. With the gov't arguing that insurance is now required how can they tax me for having it and for not having it.
After I finish some urgent work projects, I'm going to re-read the legislation (it's a nasty 2700 page read) and start diving into the rules DHHS has drafted and released.
Do you know if I am correct about suing when I don't want my tax dollars going to that which I don't approve?
I don't think as individuals we could join these other suits and if the courts rule in their favor it has nothing to do with you and me. Therefore, we would need our own.
How does one go about that, without reinventing the wheel. I understand the Catholic Church and other religious organizations are suing; also many states are suing or refusing to set up healthcare exchanges.
It would seem reasonable to join/aid already established lawsuits or contact Hobby Lobby and ask if there is a way to help them.
What say you and Orangeone?
Too many cooks spoil the broth. In my case I can spoil it all by myself.
If I am required to contribute to Sandra F!uke's birth control then I should be entitled to dictate what method of birth control is used and in her case and the case of all other liberals, it is sterilization.
Now that's compromise. You're willing to pay and entitled to have a say in the matter.
Done deal.
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