Mark Levin: Ladies and gentlemen we are in deep deep trouble

He's good at overhyping stuff. I think he's talking about a potential bill, not a bill that has actually passed.

Obamacare is far worse, and FDR is far worse than Bama. FDR's problems–$50 trillion in debt–are the main problems America faces.

Levin's comments mirrored my sentiments.

Another drone …

“who should I choose?” – Choose United Airlines! They have direct flights to Socialist Europe where you would fit right in.

jd73…if you're being serious about wanting to broaden your political views and get a different angle on what the message of limited government is really all about, then I'll be more than glad to indulge you.

First off, if you actually learn a thing or two about economics, you'll see that the artificial prop-ups of these atrocious bailouts aren't helping anything at all. The economy's going to continue tanking and bailouts will continue to be the so-called “solution.” Eventually, there will be a point in time where we can no longer borrow money from other countries nor even print money with our Federal Reserve which by the way…ALSO charges interest on that as well. When this happens, the dollar as we know it will turn into worthless garbage through hyperinflation and a new currency will be proposed by the IMF World Bank as a so-called “solution” to a so-called “failed free market” when in reality…a truly free market hasn't been tried in almost 100 years.

Plus, where's the economy recovering? Unemployment is still in the double digits percentage-wise when they claimed it wouldn't be any higher than 8% with the bailouts. Most if not all the jobs “created” that they're touting are either government jobs (which are taxpayer funded) or temporary construction jobs which do not fix the problem of unemployment long term.

Also, 2/3 of the hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars that in some of Congress' own words…”We don't have time to read the bill because this needs to go into effect and start fixing the economy immediately,” hasn't even been spent yet. It's just sitting there as a slush fund. The prediction and I pretty much agree on this one is that the rest of that money will be spent to start creating more of these temporary and government jobs in swing states, so that the Democrats will have a “good guy image” for the drones to vote back in. On other words, I hate to think it, but the fact that there are so many drones who are going to be fully convinced that the economy's supposedly “recovering” around that time frame when it's really not might be detrimental to the right. It's a shame really. I as well as just about everyone else on the right can hope for the best regardless and maybe hope that more drones will start waking up and thinking for themselves.

I'm not sure either where you're saying there hasn't been any solid complaints about Obamacare. The unconstitutional mandate is complaint #1 and there's actually quite a large list to include that this bill does not in any shape or form actually deal with the REAL reasons why healthcare in this country is so costly.

Also, I hate Bush probably every bit as much if not more than you due to the unconstitutionality of more than half of his decisions as president, but his administration didn't really screw everything up for the entire 8 years.

Economically, his tax cuts actually brought unemployment down to 4% when the economy had trouble after 9/11. Do I agree that the so-called “War on Terror” is a big player in our current national debt growing? ABSOLUTELY…but Obama's doing that as well and not ending this absurd war like he promised, so…can't really blame Bush for that one anymore. Plus, you want to talk about the national debt, the Obama administration has already within the first year done more damage to our economy than the Bush administration did in the entire 8 year term. http://www.usdebtclock.org will give you the real numbers. There's a button that says “Year-To-Date” that you can click on. If you take a look at that, you'll see that this administration has SPENT OVER A TRILLION DOLLARS JUST SINCE JANUARY and the pace is not slowing down.

My thoughts on this is that any LOGICAL person would look at the ideas and voting records of all the candidates and pick the one that's MOST TRUSTWORTHY because if we vote in more lying, lazy scumbag Republicans or lying, lazy drone Democrats to put in Washington…we might as well kiss the freedoms we hold so dear in our country “Goodbye forever.”

jd73…if you're being serious about wanting to broaden your political views and get a different angle on what the message of limited government is really all about, then I'll be more than glad to indulge you.

First off, if you actually learn a thing or two about economics, you'll see that the artificial prop-ups of these atrocious bailouts aren't helping anything at all. The economy's going to continue tanking and bailouts will continue to be the so-called “solution.” Eventually, there will be a point in time where we can no longer borrow money from other countries nor even print money with our Federal Reserve which by the way…ALSO charges interest on that as well. When this happens, the dollar as we know it will turn into worthless garbage through hyperinflation and a new currency will be proposed by the IMF World Bank as a so-called “solution” to a so-called “failed free market” when in reality…a truly free market hasn't been tried in almost 100 years.

Plus, where's the economy recovering? Unemployment is still in the double digits percentage-wise when they claimed it wouldn't be any higher than 8% with the bailouts. Most if not all the jobs “created” that they're touting are either government jobs (which are taxpayer funded) or temporary construction jobs which do not fix the problem of unemployment long term.

Also, 2/3 of the hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars that in some of Congress' own words…”We don't have time to read the bill because this needs to go into effect and start fixing the economy immediately,” hasn't even been spent yet. It's just sitting there as a slush fund. The prediction and I pretty much agree on this one is that the rest of that money will be spent to start creating more of these temporary and government jobs in swing states, so that the Democrats will have a “good guy image” for the drones to vote back in. On other words, I hate to think it, but the fact that there are so many drones who are going to be fully convinced that the economy's supposedly “recovering” around that time frame when it's really not might be detrimental to the right. It's a shame really. I as well as just about everyone else on the right can hope for the best regardless and maybe hope that more drones will start waking up and thinking for themselves.

I'm not sure either where you're saying there hasn't been any solid complaints about Obamacare. The unconstitutional mandate is complaint #1 and there's actually quite a large list to include that this bill does not in any shape or form actually deal with the REAL reasons why healthcare in this country is so costly.

Also, I hate Bush probably every bit as much if not more than you due to the unconstitutionality of more than half of his decisions as president, but his administration didn't really screw everything up for the entire 8 years.

Economically, his tax cuts actually brought unemployment down to 4% when the economy had trouble after 9/11. Do I agree that the so-called “War on Terror” is a big player in our current national debt growing? ABSOLUTELY…but Obama's doing that as well and not ending this absurd war like he promised, so…can't really blame Bush for that one anymore. Plus, you want to talk about the national debt, the Obama administration has already within the first year done more damage to our economy than the Bush administration did in the entire 8 year term. http://www.usdebtclock.org will give you the real numbers. There's a button that says “Year-To-Date” that you can click on. If you take a look at that, you'll see that this administration has SPENT OVER A TRILLION DOLLARS JUST SINCE JANUARY and the pace is not slowing down.

My thoughts on this is that any LOGICAL person would look at the ideas and voting records of all the candidates and pick the one that's MOST TRUSTWORTHY because if we vote in more lying, lazy scumbag Republicans or lying, lazy drone Democrats to put in Washington…we might as well kiss the freedoms we hold so dear in our country “Goodbye forever.”

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The Obama “inherited this” argument is as stale as month old bread. That argument Obama and the dems can't use in this fall's elections (or 2012 for that matter). Go here http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-defici… to see what Bush “inherited” and what Obama “inherited”.

You can clearly see why people who have at least one fiscal…frugal bone in their body are so upset at both Bush and moreso Obama. November will be a bloodbath for the democrats..dont' fool yourself. This summer will fly by (like it always does) and the general public (aka Tea Partiers) will still be engaged and motivated more than ever. They will see their freedoms eroding away one by one. They will see the 'gubment' continue to squash their liberties all the while ignoring their cries to stop the excessive tax and spending.

I have never seen so many peopl as engaged and motivated as this. Not since Carter have I ever seen so many people with voter's remorse. November is coming up on us fast.

jd73 The unemployment rate is not in the double digits. It's 9% right now, holding, and hopefully will begin to come down. +++++++++++++ It's 9.7 which is closer to double digits than it is to 9. In 2004, the Bush bashers were saying it takes 140,000 new jobs monthly to keep up with population growth. I would assume that number has grown since then. The new people coming into the job market and not being able to find employment are not counted in the unemployment figures. Unemployed and under employed is closer to 20%. Try to convince the 26 million actually unemployed the economy is getting better.

“Most of these Socialists out there are not even American and have already been brainwashed by some other country's propaganda. Remember, it makes them happy to see us true conservatives/Americans lose our freedoms (even if they are American as well).”

You want to have a debate about logic? Let's do it, seriously. I'm game.

Love,
A sixth generation American

Danny, That said, I also don't think that anybody, those on the left included, thinks that continuous bailouts are a good idea, and I think both parties are moving as quickly as possible to end them. Wouldn't you call welfare and free health care a bailout? I am in favor of someone physically disabled to get all the help they need and I don't mind paying toward helping them. I do strongly object paying for people that haven't and will never work even when jobs are available. It's unfair to people that work to support these lazy people. The 2011 budget Housing and Urban Dev. calls for cuts for the elderly from 850 million to 270 million, and for disabled from 300 million to 90 million. It also provides a $2.1 billion increase over the 2010 Budget for rental assistance to extremely
low- and low-income families through Housing Choice Vouchers and Project-Based Rental
That is an example of a permanent bailout. People that never worked a day in their life gets free medicaid while people that worked all their life to buy a house, will have to pay medicaid benefits back from their estates. See Medicaid Recovery Act. These people have an incentive to never work. There are many single mothers that do work and they can't get help because of it. These are the people that deserve help that is given to the freeloaders. When we finally become a socialist country, there will be no one to pay taxes. Why would anyone work if they can get everything free?
The goose that laid the golden eggs will have died

You don't have to take a whole lot of economics classes to figure out the basics.

I never took an Economics class at a university, but I know a few things having worked with my old man who's owned a business with over 30 employees in the past and currently owns a different business with 3 employees now. I've also run his company for him during business trips, so I have full hands on in these affairs as well, so I think experience trumps classroom knowledge and theory.

It's basic profits vs. expenses. Government taxation of businesses and certain regulations requiring this or that can be consider expenses.

My example of the government regulation which will increase costs and reduce profits for business…the healthcare mandate to either buy insurance programs for all employees or pay a higher percentage tax to shove them in the government exchange.

Another example of this will be the tremendous impact on the economy and basic lower standards of living for the American people if Cap & Trade passes. When you raise taxes, impose fees (such as CO2 emission fees for businesses), or require businesses to do things which will raise their expenses, this will of course lower their profits.

As a businessman, there are 3 things that one must do to keep their business afloat when costs rise faster than profit. 1.) Pass the rising costs of these taxes and regulations on to the consumer which will of course raise the price of the product(s), 2.) Lower the wages of the employees, if they'll allow it, or 3.) Start downsizing A.K.A. laying off A.K.A. firing people A.K.A. job losses.

Because consumers will not buy products that are too outrageously priced, a business can only raise the prices so much before they have to resort to pay reduction and/or layoffs.

This is the explaination behind arguments as well as proof (if you're willing to look at the history of it) that tax cuts do contribute to job creation. You're also right that tax cuts aren't the only thing. Deregulation which was huge in the Republican view of things also takes away certain costly mandates for businesses, so this also sparks job creation.

Did greed and corruption lead to the higher unemployment rates and the crisis towards the end of his presidency? Absolutely. This is a whole different problem which needs to be addressed and I think Levin pointed it out pretty well in this same particular broadcast we're commenting on now.

We've GOT PLENTY of laws which deal with business corruption and fraud already. We've got to ENFORCE these laws. Civil fines? Slaps on the wrist? This is being done by BOTH sides. Why not send these CEOs to jail just like they would ANY OF US if WE stole billions of dollars? The problem does NOT lie in the system. The problem lies in the PEOPLE.

My bad on the Obama numbers, I'll admit. I was looking at the proposed budgets. The budget and proposed “ceiling of spending” was semi-unreasonable and then the Obama administration has decided to make it not just completely, but beyond unreasonable.

The steps that Obama talks about taking are an insult to any intelligent human being. We're going to “freeze $250 billion” over the next 20 years? That's going to do next to nothing, if the spending isn't stopped. The CBO budget numbers…let's talk about their own numbers on this healthcare deal. It'll apparently start to save $138 billion over the next 10 years. Well, that's of course after the debt increases another $940 billion over that same timeframe. It's this attempt to make you look at the “save” hand and ignore the “spending” hand. I've got a challenge. Try to show me any instance in history where government estimates of costs have actually be right or even close to right.

First off, I'm not a Conservative. I'm a Libertarian. I believe that in almost every aspect, government regulation causes more problems than solves to include increased defense spending, the so-called “War on Drugs,” and the IRS and income tax as a whole.

Second of all, I don't discount anyone's love for our country. I just feel that people in the left who support big government as well as those in the right who support big government are not properly informed. There's this mentality where people tend to ignore what happens as long as it doesn't directly effect them.

I've said this about the healthcare debate before and I'll say it again. Forcing people to buy a product is sheerly unconstitutional. Honestly, I'm not ticked about that for myself. I'm a disabled veteran, so I already have healthcare through the VA. If I had to pay for it, I would choose a different private health provider because the government run healthcare is a bureaucratic nightmare.

I absolutely agree that allowing anyone and everyone (including illegal aliens) to be treated without having to somehow show that they're able and willing to pay for it is garbage because us taxpayers have to pay for it, but this bill does not actually address that. I also agree that healthcare costs will slowly destroy the current system and needs to be dealth with, but health insurance is not the culprit. Health insurance has to raise its premiums when the doctors' offices and hospitals raise their costs. So…where in the bill are the doctors' fees and hospital fees address? Nowhere.

That's why people keep complaining that it's not really about healthcare, but about control. Now, I'm going into conspiracy theory territory because I can't prove this, but what better way to control people than to control their access to healthcare. The administration has even admitted that this wasn't even the beginning. What's next? Universal healthcare after the forced premium increases by the health insurance providers causes people to become more angry? Implanting a microchip under the skins of every citizen for “faster medical record access?” Where does it end?

There's an old movie very few people have probably even heard of that shows exactly why government should not be so large. It's called “Brazil.” Check it out sometime, if you get the chance.

You've got a lot of worthwhile things to say. I don't have time to respond to them now but please check back in like 16 hours if you care to, as I'd like to continue this discussion.

That's exactly the kind of stuff I mean when I say I have mixed feelings. I've heard him handle himself really well on callers and I've heard him handle himself very rudely and obnoxiously without any actual logic. He's the “Angry Jew” more or less when you stop and think about it. I still listen to him when I'm drivin around, but I won't actually go out of my way to do so though.

I just realized another thing about the economy collapse argument I forgot to mention. It wouldn't be the first time in the history of the world. Germany did the same thing in the 1920s. They printed money to the point where hyperinflation caused the currency to be worth nothing and a new currency under a new kind of government was offered as a solution.

Same thing essentially has happened with the majority of the countries to a lesser degree who are currently on the Euro bandwagon. Ever heard of the Amero? That's supposedly (this is only a conspiracy theory as of now, but still kind of odd nonetheless) the new solution to the dollar that will fall. It's already been planned out by those who were pulling Bushs' and are now pulling Obama's strings.