Thank you Scoop for removing "kenvandoren".
His ridiculous response was uncalled for.
Levin: An exposé on Ron Paul and His Libertarian Anarchist Mentors
I do not care for Santorum at all, I dont beieve he is anywhere ready to lead this country than Obama was. Im ready for a businessman, a man who has great integrity and common sense and this Gov Mitt Romney
There are those of us who do not feel Romney is a man of integrity. For example, is record on life, even after he claims to have changed his mind because of embryonic stem cell research.
And he says he believe marriage should be between a man and a woman, yet he said in a debate in answer to the question when was the most recent time you did something to advance "gay" rights. He said just now. Someone who would be for advancing special rights for people based on their immorality is not a man of integrity. He also demonstrated how he does not have a conviction about true marriage in MA. If the info on this link is correct, he is even worse than I thought on the issue:
1) Santorum is sorry he endorsed Romney
2) Hes sorry he voted for no child left behind
3) Hes sorry he voted with Planned Parenthood Title 10
4) Hes NOT sorry he added ANOTHER GUBMENT program (Title 20)(attacking cotraception) to COMPENSATE for a vote he was sorry about voting yeah on !
5) Hes NOT sorry for voting for Sphincter over Toomey (with Cavaet) Sphincter promised CON scotus>> Which Sphincter says is a LIE !
6) He has NOT SAID that he has changed his mind on "TEAM SPORT CONCEPT"
And his one word for himself IS, GET THIS>>>> COURAGE--- LOLOLOLOLOLOL
1) Romney lost to McCain
2) Romney "I respect the fact [Bush] put in place No Child Left Behind. I know a lot people in my party don't like it, but I do like it."
3) Romney donate his own money to Planned Parenthood
4) Romney voted for Democrats
5) We know team Romney would have played for Not Reagan/Bush
What one word do you call that? Hypocrite!
So you piggy-back Romney's pathetic attacks against Santorum to promote Gingrich? I think you just hurt your cause.
I Totally AGREE with everything you just said ! This Makes Romney look like Garbage, but it sure doesnt make Santorum smell any better ! NEWT 2012
Mark asks the questions conservatives want to ask about really critical issues. After watching Stossel's 'Illegal Everything' last night, I want to add one more question for the candidates: When are you going to shut down the EPA?
Before you vote, get informed: vimeo.com/6445068 www.notonewt.com
And this ONE video clip should disqualify Santy from consideration by any red blooded freedom loving American: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1Gwwmm-cQxU
And Red state, for once, has it right: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1Gwwmm-cQxU
Wow. See, rick isn't all he is says he is. I like what he says but what he does is different. He calls others flip floppers and what do you know? He is a flip flopper himself. This video will make no difference to santorum supporrters though. The guy can do no wrong except for his vote for Unions, debt ceiling increase, support for Specter over a real conservative, bridge to nowhere and I can't think of all the others right now. Too early. But he gets a pass on everything. I'm not saying I wouldn't vote for the Guy if he is all that's left but his hypocrisy is pretty overwhelming.
As we see in the video you posted he isn't all he is cracked up to be. Who would've thunk it. How we ended up with these losers is beyond me. Don't need a Guy who can't even win his own Senate seat and got pasted to the wall at that. We are screwed with these fellas.
So his inconsistencies are no longer relevant? ahhh no, but Levin the little hate monger, is.
So Santy's inconsistencies are no longer relevant? Aahhh, no, but the little hate monger Levin is.
Looks like Michigan will be as stupid as Florida. Rasmussen now has Romney up by 6. All this and Romney looked the American people in the eye and blatantly LIED about making Catholic hospitals use the abortion pill.
The one thing I wished Newt would have done during the debate, was say, "Before we get started, let's cover three things you said last debate. Three things we now know were absolutely untrue....". Unfortunately both he and Rick just let Romney talk and talk, and in all that talk was some absolute LIES.
I have no problem if our candidate isn't "my choice". (I voted for Newt already). But I have a REAL problem morally voting for someone who looks in the camera and flat out lies, knowing that 99% of the viewers won't know the difference.
This is obviously how his handlers have told him to debate. Just say whatever sounds good, don't worry because no one is going to follow up with you. I wish Hannity or someone else would press this guy the next time he is on, saying, "well I have the documents right in front of me, what you said was false." BUT...he still gets away with it, because people watching the debate are not all listening to the follow up. *SIGH*
Rick doesn't need Sarah to stand for what he believes in. Sarah, who cannot endorse because of being a Fox contributor, from what I understand, came as close as she dared by suggesting people vote for him. Rick is doing well with those who are pro-life and for marriage as its Creator designed and defined it.
With a recent news article I saw, if Newt winds up being the nominee, I'd be holding my nose to vote for him as the lesser of two evils:
If Romney is the nominee, unless he has a true conservative (which he is not) as his running mate who will fight for life and true marriage, I will not vote for if he is the nominee.
I was happy to vote for Santorum in early TN voting and am praying, if it's God's will, he will be our next President!
We'd be so much better informed about all of the candidates if they bagged the debates with leftists, Dem apologists and operatives for moderators and took their messages directly to the people like this. Thanks for the post, Scoop!
Newt's support of a mandate was led by the Heritage Foundation as a way to fight against Hillarycare... and Newt has recognized that it was a bad idea. That works for me. People and ideas evolve over time. Newt has conservative credentials the others can't match. Santorum has his share of weaknesses within his voting record and his religious ideology that Obama will be able to use against him. His tax plan is still progressive without a flat tax option (which Newt's plan has) and he does not have the substantive solutions that Newt has, nor does he have the ability to communicate them as Newt does. We have a whole generation of Americans who are only familiar with the demonized view of conservatism and free market principles and we need a candidate who can teach them, and inspire them... that man is Newt!
I have heard he supported the individual healthcare mandate for many years- I think I heard at least 20. This makes for a less sharp contrast with Obama on the issue than Santorum has, since he did not support that idea.
Santorum's beliefs about the right of the unborn babies to live and not have their lives taken away from them and his agreeing with the Creator of marriage about the definition of it are not weaknesses. They are great positives!
In this interview, he has a flat tax plan for businesses of half the current rate, with the exception of a zero tax for domestic manufacturers to try to level the playing field with other nations and bring back jobs to the U.S. that have been outsourced. He also has a plan to cut back individual tax rates to those that were in place during the Reagan era. All of this, God willing, would go a long way in stimulating this economy.
I think he's doing a pretty good job at communicating his platform, though he is not as smooth at speaking as Gingrich and he hasn't the money Romney has on his side for advertisements. Santorum does quite well at sounding like he is speaking from his heart.
You are right my friend. He really speaks from the heart with lots of caring, humble and knows what he is going to do.
So I figured that since I met him first, and it strengthens my position more and more as I hear and see him.
Newt supported individual mandates all the way up to 2008 maybe even until the point he decided to run for President, that's way after the fight against hillarycare.
Obama is going to use his religious ideology against Rick? Bad move for Obama to compare and contrast next to Santorum. Have you seen Obama's religious past? Hello, Jeremiah Wright! Yes, Bring that back into Light!
You have to ignore the fact that Newt Gingrich is one of the most toxic names in american politics today. His unfavorability is very high, the highest of all the candidates, he's hated from the left, middle, and right. Is this the game plan for Newt to defeat him --- Negative ad him to death? It worked when Romney did it. Obama will surely do the same.
They only accomplishments for Santorum was Obviously always voting for things that were against his conscience and oh, K-STREET !! That will come out shortly and Santorum will be cooked !
http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/99323/santorum-corruption-k-street-project whenever you want 10 more articles on K-Street, let me know !
if it's such the scandal you claim I wonder what's taking so long to break out in the news. And I wonder why two conservative candidates Perry and Bachmann have hit Newt Gingrich with ads about being Mr. K Street, and the King of K Street, but nothing about Santorum. And it looks like only Lefties are attacking Santorum about something about a K Street Project scandal.
OHH, Maybe you should look up K-Street >> Have you ever heard of Jack Abramoff, Jim Hirni (Abramoff lobbyist that ran Santorums campaign in South Carolina) You obviously only follow politics by convenience ! Santorum was the head of K-street which was the epitome of crony capitalism.. Then he was caught on tape lying about ever knowing Grover Norquist or what Norquist did. Its very easy to locate on you tube ! That was a scandal of epic proportion and is BIGGER than Gingrich as a business owner doing work for a company noone likes ! I know>> You like the COVER of the book and you are afraid if you open the BOOK> Well, it really sucks !
don't know much about k-street, but people know about Freddie Mac, and that is more toxic. We seen that already cook Newt. I like Newt but some of you supporters are leaving me no choice but to throw his baggage right back in your faces. http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/10021-gingrichs-freddie-mac-contradictions-just-got-worse
Your use of the word "always" is an obvious exaggeration.
If you are referring to Title 10 funding, please see the following:
This first site outlines Rick Santorum's pro-life record... please see a list of votes against abortion and on the side of his conscience at the last part of the article:
http://www.lifenews.com/2012/02/21/paul-ad-makes-it-appears-santorum-suppots-planned-parenthood/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/03/santorum-paul-compete-to-prove-pro-life-credentials/
This second one says that the money allotted to planned parenthood is not supposed to fund abortions. They mention since the house got a Republican majority, they have been trying to completely get rid of any funding at all for Planned Parenthood.
If you are like me, I don't trust Planned Parenthood at all and am glad that Rick indicated in the debate mentioned above that if he is President he would fight to have no federal government money going to Planned Parenthood.
You have to ignore the fact that Newt Gingrich is one of the most toxic names in american politics today. His unfavorability is very high, the highest of all the candidates, he's hated from the left, middle, and right.
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Newt supporters just don't want to see this reality. Rick clearly has the better chance to keep Romney from the nomination, and that is the key thing here.
You have to be careful here. What's the most important thing? Speaking well or having the best policies AND the record to back it up?
Santorum isn't the best speaker, but he's pretty good. The problem with Newt is he's been on the wrong side of too many core conservative issues like the mandate (supported it last year) and global warming (supported cap and tax in 2007). Newt even supported the Fairness Doctrine back in the day (Reagan vetoed it).
Newt is a better speaker, but Santorum is the better conservative and has the record to prove it.
No, Santorum actually doesn't have the record to prove it. You just think he does, because he's told you so while waving a photo of himself with his kids. He doesn't even have much of a platform either.
This is argumentum contritum record (a broken record argument). We know you are in the bag for Newt. You don't need to stir up things by making these sorts of inflammatory remarks in every thread about Santorum. Just support your guy and stop dumping on the other guy.
If you have something new to reveal about Santorum, then bring it. But the same old tired accusations are what trolls do. You don't wanna be a troll, right?
Newt never supported Cap & Trade because he recognized it would hurt the economy. He was concerned (along with much of the world) before the fraud was revealed regarding global warming, and he felt more research was necessary, but he refused to support any energy policy that would hurt the economy! Santorum's voting record has been posted online with links to the actual voting documents, and there were MANY votes that are a concern to conservatives, not just the ones that were brought up at the debate. Newt spent 16 years creating the first Republican majority in 40 years in the House and everything Bill Clinton got credit for in terms of the economy was because Newt pulled him to the center and forced balanced budgets, paying down the debt, and welfare reform! None of the other candidates can compete with his record of conservative accomplishment!
I think we can all agree that both Newt and Rick have their warts, right? I'm doubtful that either of them were our first choice (or even 2nd/3rd) when this thing got started, but the reality is that this is who we're stuck with. It doesn't sound like either of them are getting out anytime soon so they (and we) are going to need to work together to dethrone Mittens and then go for the real enemy of the state, BHO. I think we can agree that either of these two would be a vast improvement over the current occupant & tearing one or the other down does nothing to further the cause of the big picture. We've got to think strategically, folks. 1st Mittens, then Barry.
Short of one of the two getting out, the strategy is simple. KEEP HAMMERING WILLARD!
Toward the bottom of the above website page, an interview with Gingrich, Gingrich indicates he would support strongly mandatory caps on carbon, a system of trading within the caps, and tax incentive for new technology investment.
Newt did work hard and did many helpful things for the country, but I don't think he deserves all of the credit for the first Republican majority in 40 years... for example, without the voters voting them in, it would not have happened.
On Welfare reform, you might find this article about Gingrich and Santorum:
And also, Santorum was a main sponsor of Partial Birth Abortion Ban legislation as well as the Born Alive Infants Protection Act during his time in the U.S. Senate.
Read more here: http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2012/02/21/krichert/idaho_antabortion_group_endorses_santorum#storylink=cpy
I like Santorum and will vote for him, but Newt's was better. Santorum was heading into a big speech and didn't seem focused too much on the Levin interview.
Still, Newt's the best at impromptu, other than maybe Ridy Giuliani. I might side with Giuliani, just because he can be funnier. His "nada" speech at the 2008 convention about Obama's resume is still one of the best I've heard. Come to think of it, everything was fantastic about the 2008 convention - except for the Presidential nominee.
I thought the entire interview was very refreshing and I felt Rick really hit his stride when he talked about his tax plan.
I hope Scoop gets a chance to post his speech tonight in Michigan on his first 10 things he would do if elected president.
His tax plan is not as revolutionary or beneficial to Americans as Newt's plan. Newt's plan polls much higher as being the best tax plan of all the candidates, the others don't even come close!
Nice rah rah cheerleading for Newt. =P He has his positives and negatives, I still I like him, I would support him if he shot through the top of the polls, I'm just with Santorum right now, I think his tax plan it's a very good plan, if it was good enough under Reagan, I think it would be good for the country again under Santorum. The thing that bothers me the most with Newt is his past support for the individual mandates, it worries it might handicap him against Obama on Obamacare. That's one of Obama's most toxic issues, Santorum would be fierce at attacking Obamacare to shreds without any limitations in his past for not supporting individual mandates.
You listened to the interview on here? You think appointing conservative judges who care about the intention of the constitution's framers and not about trying to change the constitution to suit themselves and his plan to cut domestic manufacturing tax to zero and cut other businesses tax rate in half to stimulate job creation in this country is lackluster?
Do you think his willingness to fight for the lives of unborn and a U.S. Constitutional amendment with the definition of true marriage, as the Creator designed it are not huge positives? I sure believe they are!
You think Rick's stance on coming into this country the right way, legally and his recognition of real threats in the world and his desire for energy sources to be tapped into with those who are not professed foes of the U.S., and his willingness to take on entitlement reform like he did welfare reform is part of a lackluster platform? What is it you want for America?
Not Bizarre at all, My goal is to beat Romney. If Romney wasn't in this race I wouldn't even be worried who won the nomination. You think Newt has the most positives, I see a candidate that I like way better than Romney but I also see a lot of negatives with Newt. When Newt is next to Romney I can ignore most of those Negatives because Romney has no positives. I see Rick with a lot positives and the least negatives of all the candidates. I see a candidate that's better than Romney with a smaller gap needed to beat Obama.
So you admit that you support candidates based on the bandwagon effect. Totally bizarre. And if Newt's baggage disturbs you, certainly Santorum's baggage should have a similar effect. When it comes down to it, we have to vote for the guy with the most positives. Newt has the leadership experience and the plans that simply go much farther for Santorum. The time of Reagan is over. It's time to go Reagan to the second power and utterly reform the system of government while we can before it's toolate. Managing the decline, which is what Santorum offers to do with his lackluster platform, is not what I want for America.

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