Mosab Yousef on Hannity: A Hamas Muslim turned spy for Israel

I think what he is saying is that all Muslims must believe the same thing because the Qur'an = word for word from god. Hence there is no middle ground for Muslims to have a debate on a declared Jihad. But not all Muslims have the balls, or at least some have separate humanity from their religious views, to be radical enough to take up arms for the Jihad.

But I'm sure If Hannity would let any of his guests have more than ten seconds to answer his long winded, directional, questions he might have kept his point on target.

I really can't stomic Hannity anymore I think he has a bigger ego than O'reilly

Even though you and I seemed to be commenting at the same time, I think we're on the same ball here. I believe there is simply a fundamental difference and the guy says there's no moderate Muslims…I think he's just WRONG there. There may be different SECTS which could EASILY be the “moderate” Muslims. You've got to keep in mind that this guy was born and raised in the Middle East. He can't possibly understand EVERY word in English…especially words like MODERATE which have multiple meanings. It's kind of the same crap he was trying to do with Madame Manhatten except that it was EASIER because the guy doesn't speak English well and is too polite to interrupt.

What really ticks me off is that this will probably push my PARENTS and many others like them in my town who I told about my experiences in Iraq and Indonesia RIGHT back into their ANTI-MUSLIM mindset if they happened to be watching.

I know I know…I kept wanting hannity to shut his pie hole and let the guy finish answering those questions. But thanks for your explanation.

Yeah. This is the basic innate quality of MOST human beings. You don't require religion or anyone to tell you that killing, raping, hurting, lying, and stealing are wrong. For MOST human beings, this is ALREADY INSTILLED in us.

I'm going to say after watching it TWICE now, I FULLY believe NOW that this guy growing up a Muslim DID NOT actually read the Koran HIMSELF. He grew up in a terrorist family around a terrorist organization. Having read an American Koran (unless it's fundamentally different than the Middle Eastern Koran), I can say there is NOTHING in there about INSISTING JIHAD and there is NOTHING in there about 72 virgins in heaven. So…I think these are both essentially a bunch of crap they tell people who can't read well or not at all so that they can have something higher to believe in…some belief in a better world than they currently live in giving them the much-needed motivation to blow themselves up in the name of Allah.

It's interesting to say the least, but I suppose we'll see. I'd like to see him SPY ON IRAN for us since he can still act like a radical Muslim…maybe gather some of that intel that we're NEVER quite certain of when it's reported in the news. Because after all…it's IRAN that I feel will try to bring back the 12th messiah at this point. There's NOTHING in the book of Koran that says you MUST FORCE the end of the world, but leave it to RADICALS to TRY since they WANT to die.

what I understood from the last lines you asked about, and from what I have read from the Qur'an, is that the god of Islam has no morals, humanity, etc.. but that it is required of adherents to Islam. In other words, the followers of Islam are required to be much more than the god they believe in is.

as to there being no 'moderate' Muslims…
I have met and known many good Islamic people in my life… and I believe that there are good Muslims in the world. However, I could easily believe that what he says is fairly standard and true. Of those good Muslims that I had met, there were very few who I would consider 'devout' Muslims. Call them fanatics if you will, but I have only met one Muslim who was truly dedicated to his religion, which had connected with the concepts of kindness and mercy to his fellow men.

They do exist. I just fear that they are the exception, and not the rule. I just don't wish to be unfair to those I know are out there, by painting them with such an absolute brush. Granted, with how polarizing the two competing ideologies are in human societies on earth right now, I actually don't think that there can be 'middle ground' or 'moderates' in the future, unless things drastically change.

Interesting theory. I don't buy it though, as the religions you reference all have recorded inception ages that are vastly different. So it is impossible that they would have been all created by the “same people” in an effort to cause religious turmoil and strife. …unless you think that the “same people” is an organization which can keep the whole orchestration together and a secret for a very, very long time.

Origins of early 'Judaism' go back quite far, but are in question. At least 600 BC, if not sooner. (Scholars put the inception of the Torah at early 1000 BC with the ending touches at ~600 BC.) If you believe that the group died out after the inception and general acceptance of Islam in ~400 AD – you have at least 1000 years. If you believe that 'the same people' somehow hijacked Judaism and tricked modern scholars, you have at least 400 years, if not much more than that, due to the fairly cemented histories of Josephus, and his descriptions of Judaism as firmly established before his time, along with other 'Jewish' historians.

If you take it further, and assume that they are still manipulating our perceptions and histories of these religions, you also accept that they would have to be inciting and fueling the conflicts between the religions along the way, as things like manufactured religions tend to change over the course of two millennia. We are now looking at, at LEAST 2,000 years for a society to keep itself secret, organized, and active, with a strong possibility of up to 3,000 years. Keep in mind that these 'same people' would, through the millennia, have to be educated and powerful men, in very exposed positions, who would have had to coordinate with each other… yet avoid all proof of said interactions or existence, and essentially keep a tight gag on 3000 years of actions, while leaving detailed instructions or, at least, a creed for future 'same people' members.

The thought that such a group which would be capable of creating and/or hijacking religions and entrenching them in society, would postpone enacting their plans for a minimum or at least 400 years, just doesn't make sense either.

That theory, though based off of an interesting and possibly apt observation, just doesn't stand to reason.

Perhaps, it would be simpler to believe that the religions just don't get along, or that one of them is actually true, and there is a 'devil' and 'God' involved in a kind of war. I, personally, find that much more plausible.

Keep in mind this is why I call it a theory. It's BASED off of the “Masons and Illuminati control the world and have been since the dying of ancient religions and creation of modern male-dominated patriarchal religions.” It's pretty out there, I know but there are WAY too many similarities within each of the modern religions as well as how each of them tie to the ancient Mayan religion of old. Perhaps it's just coincidence and perhaps it's just certain pieces that each religion has decided to adopt without making it too much like the religion of old. Who knows.

Just as there are “Reform” Jews, why can't there be “Reform” Muslims? If it hasn't ALREADY happened, then I think it's bound to soon enough. Especially in the Post Modern era where people are starting to think more for themselves instead of just taking ancient texts and taking the scriptures literally or in MOST cases flat-out MISINTERPRETTING them.

I think that the main problem with interpeting religious texts is the tendancey to overlook the context in which they were written. We see this all the time in fundamentalist movements in all three religions, you get a charismatic leader who takes a passage without understanding it's historical context putting his own flawed interpetation on it. His adherents, who believe in his wisdom take it as “gospel”, well we've all seen how that plays out.

Yep. It all goes back to what I say all the time. God is DIFFERENT for each person regardless of religion or lack thereof.

FOR SURE. I definitley believe it's fair enough.

I APOLOGIZE to you if I offended you with my saying that religions were superstitious nonsense. That is just MY PERSONAL belief and I hold NO GRUDGE AGAINST the religions OR the believers.

I APPRECIATE you sending me those resources and look forward to REALLY reading them more this weekend when I get some more free time.

I spent 2 years of my life in Iraq and talked to many Muslims who just based their own beliefs off what others told them since they were unable to read and others who were more well-educated who put things into better perspective for me.

I say this to ANYONE who I have religious discussions with. SPIRITUALITY and MORALITY is what EVERYONE seeks. Whether one uses a diety, multiple dieties, or religions to find this…SO BE IT. The important thing is that you FIND THEM using whatever method that may be.

Hannity just won't shut up and let Yousef speak. Search on YouTube. There are many more interviews with Yousef. Over a year ago he was featured in Fox News Channel's special on leaving Islam.

This book is new, but he talked about wanting to write it a year ago.

What I gather from all of these interviews is that Yousef believes that Muslims are good people because for the most part they use logic and reason like any other human being because it is essential for survival, but when they are exposed to literal interpretations of the Koran they are extremely radicalized to think death and taking life is worth more than loving and living one.

He's pretty brave. He must have good security. The pastor that baptized him has an easy to locate church. You can even find the beach where he surfs. Yousef has security, but he's not really hiding. He's not afraid, an absolute critical component to being born again.

Yousef says he father Khemal understands his decision. He told his son that he could not come out. Khemal Yousef is trapped in the Hamas web like men get trapped in La Cosa Nostra. Once you're in, it is almost impossible to get out. If you do they track you down because you're a liability.

Mosab Yousef says he's coming out now because he thinks it is imperative that more Muslims realize that it is OK to ask questions. It's odd because from what I know the radicalization through Islam teaches you to live without fear, but clearly they fear retribution if they ever go against their teachings.

Teachings…this is where the people who resort to radicalism fail. They are just TOLD that there'll be 72 virgins for them when they die even though there's no such thing in the Koran about that and that killing non-believers even if they are innocent is okay though there's nothing about that in there either.

THAT'S what makes me think that he and many other Muslims whether part of the Hamas or just plain uneducated peoples don't actually know their own religion fully. As I've said elsewhere here, MANY Middle Eastern people CAN'T READ…so…someone who CAN is EASILY able to manipulate them with a false interpretation of the book.

It's the SAME type of mistake that MANY Christians make as well. So many Christians don't bother to read their own Bible, so they think that Revelations means a LITERAL APOCALYPSE even though it actually just says the end of the world AS WE KNOW IT.