This is total bunk. A guest on MSNBC actually argues that outdated, misguided, and ill-informed religious teachings causes gay people to commit suicide or it makes them really depressed:

Of course he’s on to bash Romney over the head as some anti-gay hate-filled candidate who everyone should fear. Forget all the things we know about Romney and his compassionate lifestyle he’s lived. No, RUN FOR YOUR LIVES because he doesn’t agree with the gay lifestyle.

I wonder how long it will be before teaching people that homosexuality is a sin will become a crime, because that’s exactly where this mentality will take us. Leftists love to prescribe why people do things in a very macro oriented way and they love to make generic one-size-fits-all solutions. So at some point they see the problem of gay suicides and deem outdated Christian teachings as the problem, and then they say let’s get rid of outdated Christian teachings. Wallah, you get locked up when you teach the Bible.

This mentality is dangerous.

(h/t: Townhall)




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roberthagedorn
roberthagedorn

Should the anus be used as a sex organ? Google First Scandal. When you get there, go to the top of the page and click on "Welcome University of Alabama Students."

Rich Wojcik
Rich Wojcik

why do we bother with talking about 1% of society, not about the other 99%? All they do is "in your face, look at me, we can get married too, hah! etc.

Some even have very proper names like Ellen Degenaratis or something like that ;)

Magdalene Prodigal
Magdalene Prodigal

No, the unnatural lifestyle and the guilt that still will be on the heart because it is contrary to natural law is what causes 'depression' among gays.

AlabamaPatriot2
AlabamaPatriot2

Just read Leviticus. It's all spelled out for you.

Prozac is dirt cheap, too.

Laurel
Laurel

Gay people are depressed regardless of religion...and finger point to Christianity all you want but no major religion supports homosexuality and never has. Blaming religion for impairment is scapegoat-ism and will never solve the problems inherent with homosexuality.

GaltLine
GaltLine

Another medievalist has spoken. No liberty of thought or action.

bobemakk
bobemakk

What a bunch of bunk. Walter Cronkite was a closet liberal/socialist himself, so at this point we may be able to call it a "dishonor."

karekea
karekea

Living in a culture that permits men to sodomize each to each makes me want to commit suicide, so using the train of thinking offered by the guest on MSMBC, sodomites need to go away.

karekea
karekea

Living in a culture where men sodomize each other makes me want to commit suicide. And seeing as sodomy predates Christianity, there is no reason that I should not expect it or its perpetrators to go away. After all why should I be offfended?

MerlePearl
MerlePearl

Not only is this mentality dangerous. It is deadly and will lead to disaster. We must fight it.

PuritanD71
PuritanD71

But, but, but all we need to know that it is all about the economy ///

aposematic
aposematic

There it is...outdated Christianity? Someone please tell me how Christianity can be "outdated." Truth is truth! Truth doesn't get outdated, it gets distorted and often replaced with outright lies. The Leftists replace truths with lies and call that progress. Evil never sleeps...

kong1967
kong1967

Undecided voters should make their vote about gay marriage? ROFLMAO!!! Oh yeah, that is the most pressing issue on my mind!!

I just can't sleep at night because of it.

colliemum
colliemum

The astounding point is that people like this man always harras Christians, they never ever talk about sharia law, under which gay people are being killed.

Do they really want to dilute Christianity to the point that 'being nice' is all that Christians are allowed to preach? Do they not see that Christianity is the only bulwark against the islamisation of our countries there is?

And don't get me started on their underlying message, that all life is about is having sex unhindered ...!

Sylvia
Sylvia

Let me get this straight..even when someone puts a rope around his/her own neck, they're not responsible for that either? What kind of moron buys this bullish** anyway?

Jason Hlavac
Jason Hlavac

So does ted turner think gay suicide is great?

mrterry50
mrterry50

Instead of committing suicide they could repent before God, just as each and every person could do because all of us have sinned, and receive cleansing by the blood of Christ. Of course they feel guilty, they are. And, so are we all.

Bombs And Dollars
Bombs And Dollars

Also, speaking of suicide, Ted Turner thinks it's great that our troops commit suicide. I wonder if he also thinks its great that a number of gay people have committed suicide?

Bombs And Dollars
Bombs And Dollars

Outdated Christianity doesn't cause gay people to commit suicide. Outdated Christianity causes Democrats to assault gay Republican campaign staffers in Wisconsin.

Tim Jaggers
Tim Jaggers

Meanwhile, Obama supports a religion that thinks that gays should be executed.

And Romney is the dangerous one?????

UnCL3
UnCL3

I think they know deep down they are sinning and will ultimately be judged negatively when they die. I guess that's pretty heavy pressure...

Malkiel_kol_hakavod_la_el
Malkiel_kol_hakavod_la_el

It ones own demons that lead to such things.... Also all the liberal idealism and so called reach out centers must be at fault as well because they fail big time when suicide and depression win the day......

david r
david r

It is easier to bash Christianity, and blame the very principles of Christ, and the Church teachings as outdated, and morally archaic. Try doing that with Islam, and their will be a death sentence on any college professor, film maker, politician, or media talking head.

The silence on the left is deafening....

stage9
stage9

Perverts ALWAYS believe morality is outdated.

muslimmustgo
muslimmustgo

It's ok pertaining to the communist liberal that our soldiers are committing suicide but god forbid if something causes the homosexual to take their lives!

UnCL3
UnCL3

just ask Ted Turner...

gooms
gooms

Wait till they understand how Muslims feel about gays.......

MarxistTwilightZone
MarxistTwilightZone

Shut the pie hole!

UnCL3
UnCL3

not sure how much "pie" is going down that hole...

sorry for the visual ;)

Watchman74
Watchman74

Bunk, there's a whole lot of people not living there lives by biblical standards and there not getting depressed and committing suicide because of it.

tshtsh
tshtsh

First, we are all sinners. Since it is a struggle to accept God's grace for our salvation, church is where we need to be. Second, the depression may be a symptom of the illness. Third, deep down they know something is wrong and by telling them that they are okay creates more conflict, doubt and stress as it would in any mental health illness.

General Lee
General Lee

Let me clarify. Yes, we are all sinners and Jesus died for all of our sins, IF we REPENT and turn from sin. When we refuse to acknowledge our sins and in fact deny that they are sins, then it's a different ball game.

We simply are not free to take what we like from the Bible and make up our own rules for other things. The general consensus is that because society has gradually become tolerant to homosexuality and it has been "downgraded" to a simple "lifestyle", then Christianity needs to change. It simply doesn't work that way. To believe that would be to believe that someday we could be conditioned to think that murder is okay as long as "society" accepts it.

As society degrades further and further, our standards get lower and lower. The bible predicted this very thing would happen and now it's happening.

But I'm with you in that being suicidal and having mental issues comes from living is sin, 24/7/365, not from "Christianity".

stage9
stage9

It's called enablement. It's what a loving parent unknowingly does when she gives her drug addicted child money "because she loves him" and doesn't want to come across judgmental. Rather than helping, she's unwittingly sending him to an early grave.

The news media, repugnantcans, entertainers, liberals, they're all doing the same thing with homosexuals. They are enabling behavior that will wind up killing them! Homosexuality is a SELF-DESTRUCTIVE behavior. If VD doesn't get them, suicide or drug abuse will.

You don't enable reckless behavior, you cure it.

stage9
stage9

So, is this true? Is it Christianity that causes homosexuals to commit suicide?

Let's find out:

According to Dr N.E. Whitehead, Author of "My Genes Made Me Do it":

The authors of one study done in The Netherlands were surprised to find so much mental illness in h o m o s e x u a l people in a country where tolerance of h o m o s e x u a l i t y is greater than in almost all other countries.

Another good comparison country is New Zealand, which is much more tolerant of h o m o s e x u a l i t y than is the United States. Legislation giving the movement special legal rights is powerful, consistently enforced throughout the country, and virtually never challenged. Despite this broad level of social tolerance, s u i c i d e attempts were common in a New Zealand study and occurred at about the same rate as in the U.S.

Dr Whitehead says:

Saghir and Robins (1978) examined reasons for s u i c i d e attempts among h o m o s e x u a l s and found that if the reasons for the attempt were connected with h o m o s e x u a l i t y, about 2/3 were due to breakups of relationships --not outside pressures from society.

Similarly, Bell and Weinberg (1981) also found the major reason for s u i c i d e attempts was the breakup of relationships. In second place, they said, was the inability to accept oneself. Since h o m o s e x u a l s have greater numbers of partners and breakups, compared with h e t e r o s e x u a l s, and since longterm g a y male relationships are rarely monagamous, it is hardly surprising if s u i c i d e attempts are proportionally greater. The median number of partners for h o m o s e x u a l s is four times higher than for h e t e r o s e x u a l s.

(Whitehead and Whitehead 1999, calculated from Laumann et al 1994)

stage9
stage9

S u i c i d a l i t y Among H o m o s e x u a l s:

Study #1:

Arch Gen Psychiatry 1999 Oct; 56(10):876-80

Is s e x u a l orientation related to mental health problems and suicidality in young people?

Fergusson DM, Horwood LJ, Beautrais AL. Christchurch Health and Development Study, Christchurch School of Medicine, New Zealand.

BACKGROUND: This study examines the extent to which g a y, l e s b i a n, and b i s e x u a l young people are at increased risk of psychiatric disorder and suicidal behaviors using data gathered on a New Zealand birth cohort studied to age 21 years.

METHODS: Data were gathered during the course of the Christchurch Health and Development Study, a 21-year longitudinal study of a birth cohort of 1265 children born in Christchurch, New Zealand. At 21 years of age, 1007 sample members were questioned about their s e x u a l orientation and relationships with same-s e x partners since the age of 16 years. Twenty-eight subjects (2.8%) were classified as being of g a y, l e s b i a n, or b i s e x u a l s e x u a l orientation. Over the period from age 14 to 21 years, data were gathered on a range of psychiatric disorders that included major depression, generalized anxiety disorder, conduct disorder, and substance use disorders. Data were also gathered on suicidal ideation and suicide attempts.

RESULTS: G a y , l e s b i a n, and b i s e x u a l young people were at increased risks of major depression (odds ratio [OR], 4.0; 95% confidence interval [CI], 1.8-9.3), generalized anxiety disorder (OR, 2.8; 95% CI, 1.2-6.5), conduct disorder (OR, 3.8; 95% CI, 1.7-8.7), nicotine dependence (OR, 5.0; 95%, CI, 2.3-10.9), other substance abuse and/or dependence (OR, 1.9; 95% CI, 0.9-4.2), multiple disorders (OR, 5.9; 95% CI, 2.4-14.8), s u i c i d a l ideation (OR, 5.4; 95% CI, 2.4-12.2), and s u i c i d e attempts (OR, 6.2; 95% CI, 2.7-14.3).

CONCLUSIONS: Findings support recent evidence suggesting that g a y, l e s b i a n, and b i s e x u a l young people are at increased risk of mental health problems, with these associations being particularly evident for measures of suicidal behavior and multiple disorder.

FreeManWalking
FreeManWalking

I haven"t studied them or the subject but from my observations as a group they are Unhappy and Hateful, so where does the gay part come in?

On what authority does this guy speak on what should be taught from the pulpits?

I agree with TRS where this kind of thinking is headed for in the future.

NJK
NJK

MSNBC, why don't all of you do us a favor and kill yourselves. Do us all a favor.

TheLittleRedHen
TheLittleRedHen

Hmmm.... I didn't realize that the "Mormons" were such gay haters. I thought they just wanted to exercise their "God Given Right" and Practice their religion. Do they think Homosexuality is a sin... Yes! Just like many other Christian religions and the religion Islam. Do Mormons spew vile hatred toward the "sinner". Nope. Love the sinner, hate the sin seems to be the motto.

MaroonRepublic
MaroonRepublic

Of course they never speak ill of the teachings of Islam where they kill homosexuals. I would like to see the number of suicides actually attributed to christian teachings.

On The Mark
On The Mark

There are no "gay people". The emotional turmoil that leads to homosexual acts can lead to other self-destructive behavior including suicide.

NHConservative0221
NHConservative0221

Frank Luntz was on Hannity’s radio show today. Luntz said that things were looking too good for Romney before the debates started and that Romney clearly won the debate season.

Luntz said that he thinks that Romney will win the popular vote and that it’s going to be very close in Ohio, but if he had to pick right now he’d say that OBAMA WINS OHIO TO GET ENOUGH ELECTORAL VOTES TO GET REELECTED!

I keep thinking Luntz is wrong but this is way too close to take anything for granted. We cannot allow Obama to win. Everyone needs to do everything they can to help. The time is now. The future of our great country and that our our kids and grandkids depends on it.

crosshr
crosshr

I think Luntz has great mechanism technics in publics monitoring concerning their moods and emotion at a certain issue in certain time like the ecconomy at the moment, or foriegn issue or unemployment etc, etc.

To monitor the public at large in what they believe or their idea in many issues, I can say there is a vast enermous silent majority very able of shuting and opening doors they see fit or unfit in their lifes journey. Silent majority showed up in Gay marriage in CA and voted their will and beliefs, although overturned by a gay judge

All we can do is vote and invite others to vote O out of office

sDee
sDee

I have never liked Luntz. He is a manipulator.

RKflorida
RKflorida

They hate that talk of sin and repentance, don't they?

Landscaper
Landscaper

I don't think the average person thinks about gay people or their lifestyle, until someone brings it up in regards to their "rights." Do they need or deserve "special rights"?

If someone is gay... what do I care? I don't. When there is a gay pride parade or this guy forcing their agenda on the public I am then more likely to say "screw you" get your gay out of my face.

sDee
sDee

Granting special rights to one man over another, grants power to one man over another.

That, and that alone, is why the Left is the champion of "causes".