the Bible's full of hate? really? actually Jesus LOVED us all so much that he sacrificed Himself to the the punishment for our sins. that is the ultimate love.
Jesus is the son of God, and at the same time, Jesus IS God... remember that.
I wonder if Ron Paul has read the Qur'an?
Who would Paul blame if he was aware of the source of the heart of hate of Islam?
One could say that many of the points made about the Koran and its believers are also true of Christians and the Bible. For example, the later Biblical texts are more tolerant (loving, forgiving) than the earlier texts (the law). Also, in the earlier texts, there were commandments to kill all heathen (taking no prisoners!). Throughout the Biblical text, there is an implicit understanding that unsaved will go to hell. Christianity is also a belief that does not embrace or tolerate other beliefs. There is only one way to God, according to fundamental Christian theology. Fundamental Christians also support their own agenda without a respect for separation of church and state, just as Muslims do. Christianity also seeks to convert unbelievers and believes that unrepentant are bound for hell.
I have read the Koran and part of the Hadiths. I know the Bible, and read it regularly. I have studied religions and comparisson for half of my life. The other books are suggestions for extra reading.
I've heard of that, and I'll look for it. Thank you.
One more I can think of which I've not read yet, but read about it on WorldNetDaily a while back is "The Blood of Lambs: A Former Terrorist's Memoir of Death and Redemption" by Kamal Saleem.
No shortage it seems of people who are warning us, but a shortage maybe of those who want to learn.
I've linked to it already. Your link about islam which is about 98 minutes I believe is very useful. I teach this stuff to students all the time. For most who did not already feel that Islam was a threat are hard to convince: http://www.mediaaccess.hu/index.php?module=staticpage&id=202&lang=1
Roots of Ron Paul's views...
From JihadWatch.org comments section -
Here is part of the comment by RonaldB November 20, 2011 4:49 PM - reformatted for quick scanning -
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"The roots of Ron Paul's views are becoming clearer.
"Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad is a Muslim academic and Libertarian (?) who served formerly as a Ron Paul adviser in 2008, and perhaps later:
"... Palestinian American scholar and the president of the Minaret of Freedom Institute, a libertarian Muslim think-tank.
"He also is president of the Islamic-American Zakat Foundation, a 501 (c)(3) tax-exempt religious and charitable organization which primarily serves poor and needy Muslims in the United States."
>> Minaret of Freedom Institute - http://www.minaret.org/index.html
"Among other articles rationalizing Islam, Dr. Ahmad has written about the US actions which he claims caused al-Qaeda's aggression towards the US:
"Among the reasons are 6 reasons listed below.
"The quotation is taken from Dr. Ahmad's article:
“Our leaders say he and his followers hate us because of who we are, because we have early primaries in Iowa every four years and allow women in the workplace.
"I don’t think he would have those things in his country.
"But that’s not why he opposes us.
"I read bin Laden’s writings and I take him at his word.
"He and his followers hate us because of specific aspects of U.S. foreign policy.
"Bin Laden lays them out for anyone to read.
1-our unqualified support for Israel;
2-our presence on the Arabian peninsula, which is land they deem holy;
3-our military presence in other Islamic countries;
4-our support of foreign states that oppress Muslims, especially Russia, China and India;
5-our long-term policy of keeping oil prices artificially low to the benefit of Western consumers but the detriment of the Arab people; and
6-our support for Arab tyrannies who will do that.” (emphasis added)
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There is more at JihadWatch.
So, could Ron Paul, who sounds like Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad, a 2008 adviser to Ron Paul, simply be regurgitating Osama bin Laden's political points passed on by a Muslim adviser?
Safe - Safer - Safest...
Wow - Ron Paul is, uh, safest - by Bosch Fawstin -
>> See the cartoon - http://fawstin.blogspot.com/2011/08/safe-safer-safest.html?m=0
"Safe & Safer (....& Safest)
"Ron Paul further validated my older cartoon below when he said in last week's debate that he's fine with a nuclear Iran.
"With Islamophiles like Bush & Obama, who needs Ron Paul?
"The cartoon originally ran in NewsRealBlog.com in Sep. 2010."
What global jihad has on it's side is simple minded commitment of millions of people...that was quite the quote at around 1:32
"... truth about Islam" Dittos...
Even the part about "... our government has been bring (sic) this problem to our shores ... ."
The dhimmi US State Department, yes, ALL administrations, "dhimmi-crat" and "dhimmi-can" are all complicit.
Pres. GWBush was influenced by Grover Norquist and his cohorts on the right who gave Bush the "Islam is a religion of peace" advice that brought into the power structure of the US State Department and Justice, the FBI for example, radical fundamentalist jihadistic and shariahistic" Muslim Brotherhood moles.
See also Robert Spencers short post -
Ron Paul: "Flawed" U.S. policies caused 9/11 -
>> "Here he goes again" - http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/11/ron-paul-flawed-us-policies.html
Great posts Art, specially about the brilliant Caroline Glick.
As for Norquist/Norquisling this guy was accurately fingered for his islamicist sympathies by David Horowitz, in public, in David's keynote speech at the 2011 CPAC event.
Now Norquist is messing again with the reps. in Congress who were dumb enough to sign his 'no tax increases' pledge. The aim of the pledge is not dumb, but the job of the congresscritters is to represent their constituents, not one single-minded crusader. Same goes for all the other pledges from special interest groups. They seem to be as bad as lobbyists - both subvert the will of the people in their own ways. Course, the critters should be above selling their votes for any special interests, and therein lies the rub - the low quality of some representatives.
As you wrote above in the intro sentence -
"There appears to be a lot of people who know little about Islam leaving comments ... ."
I noticed the lack of informed substance about islamic shariah and islamic jihad on your post, "Ron Paul: 'Flawed' US policies led to 9/11", and I jumped at the opportunity to dialogue with the Paul supporters about islamic jihad and the "how-to-be-holy" book as the source of hate against Israel and USA, but, no go... but later is coming.
I wonder if Ron Paul has watched the video, "Islam: What the West Needs to Know"?
I wonder if Ron Paul supporters have watched the video?
I would watch the video again, but I am listening to Caroline Glick on her YouTube channel as I type.
The title of Caroline's comments is, "Iran & Israel, After the Bomb" -
>> part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=8-GFcFMS2c0
"The Center for Security Policy's Senior Middle East Fellow Caroline Glick recently spoke on the subject of Iran at Moses Montefiore Anshe Emunah Synagogue in Baltimore, MD.
"She offered a very sober assessment of the Obama administration's policy of appeasement toward the Mullahs-- and what happens next."
I understand your point about "... putting her name out there."
So, I'll do it now again... and again... and again...
Caroline's blog, CarolineGlick.com is where she posts her Jerusalem Post columns, such as -
"Our World: Defending Israeli Democracy"
By CAROLINE B. GLICK
"Israel sorely lacks the checks and balances that are the norm for other Western countries and would protect this country from radical left-wing groups."
And, from Pamela Geller at AtlasShrugs -
"Listen to my dear friend, Caroline Glick, lay out the facts.
-Caroline Glick is the deputy managing editor of The Jerusalem Post
-Worked in the IDF's Judge Advocate General division during the First Intifada in 1992
-Co-authored an IDF-published book, Israel, the Intifada and the Rule of Law
-Following the Oslo Accords, she worked as coordinator of negotiations with the Palestinian Authority
-Retired from the military with the rank of captain at the end of 1996
-Assistant to the director general of the Israel Antiquities Authority
-Served as assistant foreign policy advisor to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
-Master of Arts in Public Policy from Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government, in 2000
-Author, Shackled Warrior: Israel and the Global Jihad
Yes! Walid and his videos also! And Bridgette Gabriell, Pamella Gellar among others. But I like the folks like the Caners, Shoebat and Gabrielle who actually grew up in that climate. It makes what they say more real.
Two excellent books to read would be Unveiling Islam by Ergun Caner and Light in the Shadow of Jihad by Ravi Zacharius.
Thanks for re posting this Scoop. There is no reason for people not to know the truth about Islam. Stop being ignorant people.
Have you seen Iranium, The Third Jihad and Obsession? Be glad to send you a copy...read The Terrorist Next Door...that'll keep you up