This is an excellent monologue by Zo, who says we have a lot of work in the culture to do to keep Hillary Clinton from being the first woman president, that the ground work is already being laid to paint Republicans as the party of old white men. Case in point – this last election. And despite how much he likes Marco Rubio and Allen West, he says if we run them for president it will guarantee Hillary Clinton a victory in 2016. But we can’t just run a woman and expect her to win without taking on social issues and dealing with the culture.

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pmb88
pmb88

I would like it to be Palin cause then it would show the media that she cant be taken down easily.

JDOlson
JDOlson

I give this guy credit for focusing on the heart of the problem with the Repubs and this country. But Sarah Palin has always been the answer. It's not a gender thing. We abandoned her and we abandoned the country. We don't deserve to win until we commit everything to her candidacy and the resurgence of conservatism, show her we've got her back, and devil take the hindmost.

Bob Macchia
Bob Macchia

I agree. Hitlery and her husband were the biggest liars in history. Now she will testify under oath about the Benghazi incident, after her "Immaculate concussion," has healed (given that name by the beautiful Kimberly Guilfoyle of The Five).

We need a powerful man or woman with true conservative values who care about their constituents and are not self consumed. Happy New Year.

HopeHeFails
HopeHeFails

Could Hillary beat Michelle Obama? Can you imagine the Primary viewership on that one? It's not out of the realm of possibility...

sd12569
sd12569

unless it is already a set up for her to win, who says she is even a candidate?????

Jay
Jay

Think Hillary will recover from the Immaculate Concussion in time to run in 2016?

Alex
Alex

I'm sorry, I'll say it. I don't believe in affirmative action, we should run people on their credentials for the office.

But I don't think we should let them have the first female President too. It's not just Hillary's gender but also the machine she runs and the undeserved credit she gets even though she's got bloody hands. You know, we had our chance to elect a female President with Michele Bachmann, who had no liberal sins on her record. What did we do then? When the going got tough we abandoned her.

hongryhawg
hongryhawg

I'll take heat. I am for and always have been for Sarah Palin. Besides the obvious reason; those that have stated so eloquently by other posters, the left explodes when she is mentioned. That one fact tells me more than any campaign can. You don't see that passion from the msm when West, McCain, Rubio, etc. are mentioned. You hear negatives, but you don't hear passion. The left is AFRAID of Palin and what she will stimulate. Romney failed for many reasons, not the least of which is his not being a TRUE Conservative. We all knew that going in. But we took him because he's what the Republican Party put out there for us. And that's where the Republican Party failed us. Not themselves. They're in it for other reasons too numerous to list. But, they are not in it for us. That's why Palin wasn't allowed to run. They fear her also.

Alex
Alex

She was allowed to run just fine like everybody else did. Nobody blocked her from running, she chose not to, probably for her family's sake. You're thinking of how she was blocked from speaking at the RNC.

hongryhawg
hongryhawg

I disagree. I truly mean no disrespect when I say your response is naive. If you look into the deeper politics of the matter, Alex, it will become clear that the decision was not hers to make. It's the RNC's. That's why your only choice, if you are Republican, was Mitt Romney. The political parties choose who will run. The primaries are paint to make John Q. Public feel like he/she has a say in the outcome. We don't. The candidate is chosen and the winner is chosen. Really, elections have very little, if anything to do with it. Everything happens behind the curtain. EVERYTHING. If the playing field was truly level for all candidates, she would have spoken. But it's not. She is the monkey wrench. She cannot stand because she is right. Even the Republicans fear her because she will upset the feathering of their nests. Wake up, Alex. And please, again, I mean no disrespect to your comments. But, that very complacency will destroy the Conservative movement. Study. Pay attention. Turn off your television news. Arm yourself with knowledge. Thanking you in advance.

Alex
Alex

I mean no disrespect but how, exactly, was my remark complacent, unknowledgable, or naive? She could have run just like Newt, Cain, Santorum, Bachmann, Paul et al chose to but she didn't. I think the way they kept attacking her family when she wasn't even in the ring must've been discouraging. I know technically Romney was the boy they wanted but she still could have run if she chose. Again I mean no disrespect but you're putting words in my mouth to form a strange narrative and jumping down my throat because of them.

K-Bob
K-Bob

I promise I will be voting West in 2016. Write in if necessary. That's a done deal.

I love Palin, broken glass, etc.

West 2016

Alex
Alex

How is Palin comparable to broken glass?

K-Bob
K-Bob

Haven't heard that one

K-Bob
K-Bob

Oh, I get it. No, I was using snarky, AoSHQ-style shorthand for "I would crawl over broken glass to vote for her."

So the full, undamaged phrase would expand to "I love Governor Palin—as a potential candidate, and would crawl over broken glass to vote for her"

Sorry I didn't understand the question. I can be a little slow, sometimes.

Alex
Alex

You said you love her, broken glass, etc.

You mean how the media's damaged people's image of her?

Alex
Alex

Write-in? But...I just think we should vote for somebody who runs.

K-Bob
K-Bob

That's a political calculation. We're on a war footing now, so a war calculus is called for. We must bypass the party machinery to save the party (or create a new one—but we can't create the new one first; it's too late for that).

K-Bob
K-Bob

That's an after-action, pointless act. We need to push this now, before the clamor for mush begins again.

Alex
Alex

If he runs then power to you to vote for him on the ballot since he'd be a fine choice.

If he doesn't pick the non-establishment candidate of your choice on the ballot unless you think all the choices are bad in which case, that's when to make a write-in protest vote.

K-Bob
K-Bob

Besides, Zo is wrong. Obama still isn't the first "black" president. He's just another typical leftist who happens to have one parent of color. Like that's some sort of accomplishment.

conservativemama
conservativemama

How lucky is Obama that his DNA painted him black instead of white? He's been passing for black his whole life. Tell me that his resume with a white face would have led to the White House. No way at all.

K-Bob
K-Bob

Yes. He wouldn't have gotten into any college more selective than community college.

Timothy Jacques
Timothy Jacques

I thought Bill Clinton was the first black president ;)

Alex
Alex

Clinton's utter respect for women really had no equal...lol.

K-Bob
K-Bob

I think he was the first feminist president, too. A two-fer!

MiBones
MiBones

Everyone should be on the table. Including Sarah Palin. It is too soon to be worrying about 2016. We need to support the conservatives we have now in elected offices. This will help to embolden them to keep fighting for the conservative cause. At this time, we need to find conservatives to run for office in 2014. Forget the Republican Party. They are going to fight us every step of the way. That is why we should do our own vetting in primaries and support the one best conservative candidate.

Christina Myers-Andrada
Christina Myers-Andrada

No offence, but Palin is NOT the answer. If she is, we might want to rephrase the question. I can't support her. And I know MANY who can't either.

Alex
Alex

We don't need Bill Maher's vote anyways.

JRD1
JRD1

Then you are broadcasting to everyone that you don't know anything about Palin's reform work and furthermore you haven't done any research on Palin and just are intimidated. It takes great self-confidence to be a Palin supporter. Palin IS the REAL DEAL.

It's time for you to do your homework. Jump in. Palin is a seasoned executive with past reform experience. She is exactly what the corrupt Bush crime family doesn't want.

Timothy Jacques
Timothy Jacques

name your person for 2016 and I can give the same board mantra. to me, Palin is the "canary in the coal mine" and after a lot of "conservatives" ABANDONED HER after the bogus ethics complaints and Gifford shooting, (not to mention snubbing her at the 2012 convention) i'm not so inclined to listen to your comments. the problem with certain "conservatives" is that deep down, they've been so battered by the pop culture they're suffering from stockholm syndrome

Alex
Alex

If they won't stand up for her after being maliciously and shamelessly accused along with talk radio of inciting a Congresswoman's shootings, they won't stand up for the first amendment or anything on our side.

Even if they didn't like her, they should've gotten over it if they cared about free speech.

BHliberty
BHliberty

Wait....Palin isn't the answer and you won't support her. Okay, but maybe give some kind of clue as to why. The former governor is as conservative as they come. Right now, the country is far to the left on the political spectrum and we need to bring it back more to the right. Palin could certainly help in this cause as would a lot of other people willing to take the heat in an election. I can think of others, Governor of Arizona, Jan Brewer and Governor of New Mexico, Susanna Martinez, etc.

But I'm just curious why you wouldn't support a conservative woman. Or are you more moderate?

hrh40
hrh40

MANY, huh?

Uh huh.

And I know just as MANY who can support her. And can give you the facts, figures, records, positions, and policy reasons why they can support her.

So.

Whose MANY is more MANY?

And whose MANY is more informed?

WordsFailMe
WordsFailMe

He is so right on this one. Republicans are so greedy, prejudiced, stupid and weak.

What is the angle of approach beyond "obtuse?"

PhillyCon
PhillyCon

Just read through the entire thread. We can't even agree amongst ourselves on who should represent conservatives.

There's way too much nit picking on our side ... its really our down fall, IMO.

cabensg
cabensg

Newt is on it and believe me he's not going to mince words or actions when he comes up with solutions. Everybody but the establishment will be invited to put their two cents in. This is a study and preparation to be conducted over the next 4 to 6 months to find out what went wrong and how to correct it. He brought the Republicans back from the dead once I'm counting on him to do it again.

Here's the first 2 paragraphs introducing his memo:

I wanted to share with you the following memo which I have written at the request of Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, and which he has distributed to RNC members this afternoon.

This is the beginning of a four to six month project considering what the Republican Party must do to become competitive in all 50 states.

http://www.gingrichproductions.com/2012/12/memo-the-challenge-confronting-the-republican-party/

Read the whole thing. I guarantee you will not be disappointed. We do not want Shrill for president.

johnos2112
johnos2112

I would love for a WHITE GUY to stand up and say the following: "I support traditional marriage between a man and a woman. I am not anti gay because that is a separate issue. I want the American person to be free. That means free to protect themselves by all LEGAL means necessary. I believe this country was founded on Christian principles and the evidence is in Washington DC to this day. I support the right to life. I want people to embrace the rich and instead of saying they need to redistribute their money to me I would ask that Americans find out what made them wealthy. I support the American family to be the unit that makes people the best they can be. These are just a few of the many cultural characteristics I support as the CIC!"

The RNC needs to tackle these issues and not run away from them anymore. Take these people on and explain why conservative values help EVERYONE!

Alex
Alex

Ooh! Ohh! Bob McDonnell! He's pro-life and evangelical, even though he's lacking in charisma.

DebbyX
DebbyX

Didn't Romney say all that? I know it was his out of touch delivery of just about everything, but those are his values, they just didn't connect with the voters. The media tore him up so badly I expected to see scratch marks on him. The Left hates us and we have to find an in-road to the younger generation. Those points don't mean anything to them. Half of them come from broken homes and resent others who have more than they do. We need an anti-brainwashing pill to thwart the affects of Letterman and John Stewart because that's where they get their news from. I don't know how Conservatives can fight against this vast Left-wing conspiracy, but we need to find a way.

Nod to Hillary on the "vast conspiracy" thingy.

johnos2112
johnos2112

Romney did not embrace his wealth.  As a matter of fact he was ashamed of it.  Romney did NOT make the points that needed to be made.  What else needs to take place is to call out the left for who they really.  Socialists, marxists and big govt people.  These leftists are not challenged enough.  We need the TEA party principles to take over the RNC or we are finished.

Alex
Alex

For Pete's sake, stop writing 2016 off. What if the Democrats did that after they lost in 2004? Who do they blame if they lose? They blame the Republicans. They blamed their opponent's so-called "dirty tricks" and election fraud, why can't we? They don't trot out self-defeatism and predict they'll never win again. Bush was polarizing then, and by 2007 he had very low numbers. His unpopularity got Obama to win. Do you really expect people to want more of the same of Obama in four years and even more scandals?

No disrespect intended, but we really need to cut this rooting for defeat in 2016 out immediately.

And we can't claim most Americans share our values and we'll never win an election again at the same time. I actually believe neither. A lot of people are sheep, but Independents are going to be sick to death of Obama after four more years of scandals and a bad economy.

I was surprised we lost too with all Obama's done these years. Four more years and people will be even sicker of him. If it can happen to Dubya, it'll happen to him too.

Timothy Jacques
Timothy Jacques

In an article in the Boston Globe, Tagg Romney reveals that his father Mitt Romney had very little desire to run for president and really wasn't interested in the job. Therefore, Mitt Romney wasted millions of dollars in donations and everyone's time by running for president. Did this shock us conservatives? No. Tagg Romney's comments in this article confirms what most of us conservatives knew about Romney already. A important prerequisite for running for president is simple—you must want the job and also play to win. If the republican party does not clean up its act in the near future it will be over as a political party.

johnos2112
johnos2112

Bill did say he would consider it if nobody steps up to the plate!

DebbyX
DebbyX

Can you try recruiting him? Lots of people would love you forever!

johnos2112
johnos2112

In order to win you need a Bill Whittle type.

DebbyX
DebbyX

All true.........though our bumbling candidate Romney..........towards the end, conceded the fact that he had an elevator for his garage :)

I still can't believe we lost the election and I don't see much hope on the horizon of winning in 2016 either. The future looks bleak from here and the mountain feels too steep to navigate.

I guess I'm just discouraged right now. But you are right, he was incompetent.