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Newt Gingrich has been a proponent of a healthcare mandate for years. Here is a link to a convincing expose on Newt's history supporting the mandate.
Wow! So newt, all by himself took control of the economy and got it to boom? I'm sure the other republicans in Congree at the time, as well as Clinton and his administration would find this observation amusing.
Chose -Take...
99.999% agreement (... yes, 999 pun is intended)
0.001% disagreement.
Former head of Fannie Mae Franklin Raines "took" around $90 million of our money.
Newton "accepted" less than $2 million payment by contract.
January 24, 2011 -
>> NY Times - http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/people/r/franklin_d_raines/index.html
"Legal Bills for Fannie and Freddie Abuses Cost Taxpayers $160 Million
By GRETCHEN MORGENSON
"Since the government took over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, taxpayers have spent more than $160 million defending their former top executives in fraud lawsuits.
Art
It's a twisted lie taken from an answer, in an ABC interview. The question they asked (of each of the GOP candidates) was "Who do you think should be the fifth President on Mt.Rushmore?" , Newt's answer was "I'll go for five and six, FDR and Ronald Reagan". "leighrow" is not the first person to try and twist this answer on this site. Here is where the interview is: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/romneys-allergy-perrys-theme-song-the-personal-side-of-8-gop-hopefuls/
On the "Draft Dodger" comment, let's just say maybe you should take a gander at this list of prominent figures that received Deferments:
SHEEPLE:"shur like the way he talks!"
SANEPERSON:"did you understand what he said?"
SHEEPLE: "uhh, uhh, no, but he shur talks purty!!"
Right, all I have is the fact that one of the most corrupt government funded entities since the epa is paying newt to give them advice...
And even that story is shifting as people sift through the story of what freddy mac says Verses what newt claims.
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/11/16/gingrich-made-1-6-million-in-consulting-for-freddie-mac/
For 8 years and 2 million dollars he gave advice they did not take?
IF you buy that crap then there is nothing you wont buy.
In either event, good luck with this issue.
There is only about two dozen other issues that are a lot more damaging than this he can't excuse his way out of and God knows how many more waiting to come falling out of his closet.
Is there something in the interview he said that somehow will make me forget all about his past stances on global warming and the individual mandate just because its now more beneficial to be perceived as being a conservative for a politician?
I have heard newt's crap before. Im less than impressed. He is a political opportunist who is just trying to make sure his Tiffany's tab gets covered, and whether that is from tax payers money or from selling his books and speaking engagements, he comes with a price tag and whoever has the highest bid "wins" a big fat cat politician for hire that will tell you anything you want to hear.
No, that is not my line of thinking.
Sorry you kinda fell short trying to figure me out... by a mile.
Go with whoever supports your ideals.
If you are a global warming alarmist that thinks the government has any business bailing out businesses and telling them how they can operate while punishing/rewarding sources of energy for your political benefit then romney or newt is your guy.
And probably cain too for that matter though he has had little if anything to say about the global warming issues.
But dont try passing them off as conservatives.
The word "conservative" should still have a meaning and when you apply it to either cain newt or romney or anyone like them it loses all sense of meaning.
Me? My ideals are actually too far right for any sane politician to try to fully support.
I will always support the strongest conservative in the field. Perry wins that title with about two dozen pieces of legislative accomplishments for conservatism and with it my support.
Newt Gingrich will be our next President of the United States. It all comes down to who would you like to see on the debate stage debating the current POTUS? Hands down its Newt, and we all know it.
That is an incredibily stupid basis for determining a nominee.
The fact is that Newt has never seriously been challenged on his record. Given his recent climb atop the field, he has been largely uncontested until this week. Then, when confronted, he obviscates or reverses his prior position in a dramatic way. The question is, who is the real Newt Gingrich? Who are some willing to turn to and hand the nomination?
Rest assured, a man who vastly changes his positions on numerous publicly stated policies is either untrustworthy or unreliable.
Can Newt debate? Certainly he can, better than others. But so can equally untrustworthy and unreliable Mitt Romney. In fact, there is very little seperating the two (depending on the day and which side they have flipped to on that given day).
The "stuff" I disagree with are the extremely liberal policies of big government and globalism that Newt Gingrich has had a long history of supporting, which shows me he is not a real conservative.
I'd love to see Newt debate Obama and there's no question he has certain skills that could be very helpful in setting America on a new course. I could care less about his so-called "baggage" (I find that stuff so incredibly stupid/irrelevant). But there is something about him I do not trust. With a heavy GOP house and GOP control of the senate, I wouldn't be that worried. But I read this somewhere else, and I agree with it: Newt is too smart for his own good sometimes. He's the kind of guy I would want to hear ideas from. Think tank. Analyst. Consultant. He has an impressive mind. However, I don't think he has the right stuff to be a great LEADER. I see him more as a POTUS's advisor rather than a POTUS.
A GREAT quote...
"The idea that a congressman
would be tainted by accepting money
from private industry
or private sources
is essentially a socialist argument." - Newt Gingrich
Newton is definitely NOT a socialist.
Now, while NOT in office, Freddie and Fanny offered to pay Newton for informed advice, which THEY chose to ignore, and Newton accepted their offer of payment, which HE chose to put in the bank.
As Yakov Smirnoff said, "America, what a country."
"In Russia is freedom of speech.
In America is also freedom after speech."
Art
I wonder...
I don't know about anybody else, but this "Hurrah Cain" friend thinks that William Jacobson's "Why I Support Newt Gingrich" post on his blog is one point of view that is just as valid as mine.
"Why I Support Newt Gingrich" intro -
>> http://LegalInsurrection.com/2011/11/why-i-support-newt-gingrich/
"I have been agnostic on the Republican primary so far, but the time for choosing has arrived.
"For the reasons set forth below, I believe that the primaries will come down to Mitt Romney versus Newt Gingrich.
"As such, the choice is not between Newt Gingrich and some hypothetical more perfect conservative candidate, as Newt’s most vocal critics would have us believe.
"I’m supporting Newt Gingrich as the most conservative Republican who is electable and most qualified for the position of President.
And, the debate continues.
Art
oooooo a "contract."
Well that just changes everything about his record now doesnt it? NOT.
Thanks, i'll wait till newt self destructs again for the uptenth time and watch the fireworks between Perry, a real conservative, Verses romney.
This is the same rino clown that left his seat in disgrace amid scandals. You think you are smart marching him up against obamao just because he debates pretty? Half the Right base wont even bother showing up to vote again when his dirty laundry comes out to rain crap all over everyone.
Your only proof that he gave advice that they ignored is his word when asked about 300k.
Obviously the word of one of the most corrupt politicians in the GOP is fine with you.
Not with me and not with a lot of other people who would need a lot more than just his word to let that issue go. Especially when we are finding out there was a lot more money than just 300k that changed hands.
secondly, if this was his only issue, then it would be enough to overlook.
However, this is not his only problem. This is just one of dozens.
And the only thing you have to defend him with is his say so... cute.
That's a lot of flip flops in one paragraph which means he lost any edge over Romney.
He supported draconian measures to "curb global warming" by the way.
Romney is a better choice, especially in light of this surreal set of epiphanies Newt has had.
six in one hand half a dozen in the other between newt and romney.
I don't see any difference.
Worlds of difference between Newt and Romney. Newt has actually advanced the conservative cause by being the driving force behind the good economic times of the 90s. Or were you crediting that to President Clinton? Still like you my first choice is Gov Perry.
At this point in rank order my favs for my vote in the Florida Primary: Perry, Newt, Cain, Romney(voted for him in 2008), Bachman, Santorium, Ron Paul, Huntsman. Though if Sarah Palin jumped in she would be at the top of my list.
Yeah that fluff piece is going to just contradict everything going on now about him such as this
and this
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/11/17/370640/newt-gingrich-influence-peddle/
and this
http://emergingcorruption.com/2011/11/newt-worthy-or-not/
And this
http://realchange.org/gingrich.htm
White wash him all you want. It doesnt change who he is and how he legislates, which is absolutely corrupt and absolutely RINO.
The WORST thing that could happen is for him to win the primaries before all the skeletons and crap come flying out of his closet.
there is a great American Thinker peice today that I am sure you would enjoy reading.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/11/why_newts_surge_will_continue.html
In fact, I think I am leaning towards Newt over Perry now. Let me revise my list: Newt, Perry, Cain, Romney, Bachman, Santorium, Ron Paul, Huntsman. If only because Mr Wright has convinced me that Newt is more electable than I had thought.
The dubious benefit of passing a balanced budget under clinton came at a high cost. I don't think its worth bragging about considering how much they cut from our military and how much in loans was taken from china to pay it off. But hey, you are the one wanting to give credit where its due.
Newt signed one balanced budget.
Fine
Perry has six balanced budgets, with surpluses and spending cuts.
Yes there were good economic times in the 90s. yes some of the decisions Clinton did, like his version of enforcing the community redevelopment act, planted seeds that contributed to the housing bubble. to the extent that the economy did well and the budget was balanced in (1999?), we should give due credit to the GOP congress and Speaker Gingrich.
So everything that went well from 1994 through 2001 was the GOP doing things right in congress, all the bad you mentioned was Clinton. NAFTA, well I am a bit confused. I like free trade as a conservative who likes capatalism, but I am not sure that NAFTA was real free trade. Or perhaps Pat Buchanann was right when he ran for Prez in 1992 and that some protectionism is needed. I suspect that if you have true free trade between two countries the living standards will tend to equalize. And if you are trading between a third world country and ...going of rails here on a tangent, nvm.
Look I agree with you about Perry, but I to me Newt is a better choice than Romney this cycle.
Good times?
Oh yeah like the base foreclosures. Those were a hoot!
I can't say there were any good times under clinton. Sorry? We went from Reagan, to Bush, to clinton, and clinton threw America under the bus with NAFTA (which has newt's signature all over) and outsourcing jobs to india and china. Meanwhile Al Qaeda was using us for a punching bag and while clinton was "Not having sexual relations with that woman, ms lewinsky" newt was getting his own stimulus package from having an affair with his staffer, who is now his wife, and getting involved in the house banking scandal by signing off dozens of checks shortly before he had to resign in disgrace.
Good times!
http://emergingcorruption.com/2011/11/newt-worthy-or-not/
The Record of Newt Gingrich
1979 Elected to Congress from Georgia’s 6th District
1979 Voted to create the Department of Education, under President Jimmy Carter
1990 Becomes member of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)
1993 Voted for NAFTA, the North American Free Trade Agreement
1994 Supported the WTO, the World Trade Organization. Voted for GATT, the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade that subjected Americans to the international authority of the WTO
1995 Becomes Speaker of the House of Representatives and recommends reading The Third Wave by Alvin Toffler as required reading for all of his Congressional colleagues. (See accompanying article.)
1995 Delivers speech to the Center for Strategic and International Affairs in which he blames the US Constitution for making America’s role in leading the world more difficult! Read his full quote in accompanying article, “The American challenge in leading the world is compounded by our Constitution…”.
1995 Wrote the foreword to another one of Toffler’s books, The Politics of the Third Wave, Creating a New Civilization
1995 The liberal establishment Time Magazine names Newt Gingrich their “Man of the Year”
1995 Appeals to the US House of Representatives to increase the power of the Presidency by repealing the War Powers Act of 1972, and urged President Clinton to expand the US military presence in Bosnia.
1996 Under his leadership, Congress passed the largest single spending increase on education in US history, a whopping $3.5 billion dollars!
1999 Newt resigns over failed midterm elections in which Republicans lost 5 seats, the worst loss in history for a Party who did not control the White House. At the same time, he was also involved in a flap over an extra marital affair and a controversial book deal.
2008 Records the ‘We Can Solve It’ global warming TV commercial for Al Gore along with Nancy Pelosi
2009-2010 Travels around the country with Al Sharpton and Arne Duncan to promote President Obama’s new educational policies: i.e. increased local control of schools with increased Federal subsidies and regulations from Washington. (Sounds like quite a contradiction to me.)
2010 Supported ultra-liberal, pro-abortion, pro-union, establishment candidate Dede Scozzafava in New York’s 23rd Congressional District in a special election, over conservative candidate Doug Hoffman.
Man...
man ur awright Southnsoul.
i bet ur a, uh, a free thinker, aren't you.
But, seriously now, it would be nice to see similar itemizing for the other candidates as your info from EmergingCorrupton.com shows and as CaseyGeorge did in his post at the top of the page.
Art
Not even touching his individual mandate history and attacks on Paul Ryan's healthcare plan for being too conservative.
But good summery.
Not sure I can make myself sit and listen to newt lying and denying his history with cap and trade and global warming, especially when his own statements and interviews on the issues show what a liar he is.
This is classic "Who me?" that we saw in the debate where he was called out for taking 300k from fanny/freddy.
Only now we are finding out it was closer to 2 million.
If I have time I will listen to the interview... and im sure post even more ranting on what a rino newt is.
"newt lying and denying his history with cap and trade and global warming"
Yeah, here's a little bit of his recent history testifying before congress:
Newt is part of the problem. His Freddie Mac deal stinks. It's about the political payoff schemes that are dominating Washington that people are only now looking at. If you want to know why things can't get reformed or changed in Washington look at Newt's contract with Freddie Mac, look at the legal inside trading, look at the grants and loan programs that go to political contributors, look at the earmarks, etc. It's a cesspool in Washington. We need an outsider to send a message that we reject what's going on in Washington and we reject the political class and we reject politics as usual. The only outsider in this race is Herman Cain. Cain is able, Cain 2012!
Newt would destroy Obi in a debate--- the guy is super smart. However, too much baggage on him will prevent this from going forward
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