The Right Scoop
I agree with Newt. Romney's campaign sucks, unfortunately. If he loses, we'll live a life of pain for the next 4 years. Even though I'll vote for Mitt, I would have preferred Newt. Maybe Newt should help Mitt prepare for the debates, there's no one better than him when it comes to debating.
Sorry, no matter how you want to spin this, it is divisive. We have 100 comments on this post and half are against the action and half are for. His actions have divided the people on this sight. Now how do you think that plays to the people that watched that show live, or have seen the replay. If you can multiply, you can see it was a negative for getting Romney elected and giving this country a chance to turn around. Newt needs to put his great mind to work and help to chip away at the lies, and distortions of the enemy, instead of attacking our candidate. There is so much for him to attack, especially in foreign policy, my God why does he wast this time talking down our candidate.
Folks it only takes two brain cells to realize that every time we attack our own, we help the enemy of the country. Do you really want Obama for a second tern?
Newt is correct and he echoes comments made by Palin time and again. Getting a bit late for developing a theme don't ya think!
In the politican world, you gotta hit below the belt. Just ask NoBama. Time to start punching, Mitt!
If the obama's spending $1.4 BILLION on themselves, in one year, isn't enough reason to NOT
Frankly I am fed up to the eyeballs with the so called conservative talking head types on Fox or print media with their "constructive criticism" of how Romney is running his campaign. If they want to help Romney, THEY can take it down and dirty by proxy. Next can just skip on out there and blast away. Obama is a sitting duck, he's screwed up so much. Why the hell aren't the nay-sayers doing some gutter politics of their own? CNN, MSNBC and the rest will have them on air. They need to put up or shut up !!!
Newt has put his considerable verbal skills to good use against Obama...his best so far is 'Obama wakes up thinking about Obama'. I love me some Newt, do I think he should have said what he said privately..maybe, but perhaps Romney isn't listening enough and he felt it was worth the risk to go public.
I agree with you to a point. Let me clarify mine. Analogy; throw a dart at a pie plate (Romney) or throw a dart at the moon (Obama). The incumbant has made himself that big of a target with ALL his screw-ups. WE/THEY need to keep pounding Obama. Thank you.
However, I don't think the Romney campaign wants the conservatives visibly on its team, they don't want them to "put up" they just want them to "shut up."
If Romney wants to be POTUS he will attack Obama personally about his policies. If he does not and continues to play the establishment R way of "nice guy" simply he LOSES. His choice now ??????
I'm sick and tired of Republican pundits coming out and talking about these ridiculous polls like they actually mean anything. Anyone who hasn't figured out how screwed up they are yet needs to wake up and smell the bias. Rush did a whole show on these ridiculous biased polls yesterday. Maybe Newt and his buddies should try listening to Rush instead of going on left leaning networks and buying into the narrative wholesale. Why do you think they want you on there Newt? They know you're going to buy the stupid polls hook line and sinker because you and the rest of the chattering class are afraid of being called "conspiracy nuts" or something for calling them out on their bogus polls. Try looking at http://unskewedpolls.com/ which shows the same polls the left is touting, but with the proper weighting.
I'm not saying Romney is running the perfect campaign, but I do believe he knows what he is doing. This ain't his first rodeo. To have people on our side hitting him with friendly fire does not help one bit.
Newt makes a couple of good points.
But for him to go on the enemy's media site (CNN) and say some of the things that he said about Romney, seems really wrong. This seems like it provides more ammunition to the enemy and plays into their propaganda that Romney is losing in the (unreliable) polls.
I feel like Romney could be more on fire and sharper too... but I'm not going on CNN to say what I feel. I don't think Newt helped Romney very much with this interview.
I totally agree. Tell ROMNEY your criticism, Newt! Not CNN!!! Out in public, he should be 100% positive about Romney at all times, just like the liberals are of Obama, no matter what he does.
If people buy what they hear or what they read in a headline or two, then let EVERYTHING they hear from our side be PRO-ROMNEY, period.
I agree. People may see through that... but a united front is still more impressive and persuasive then a divided or fragmented one.
Look what happened to Cory Booker, for crying out loud.
Our "side" has people like Noonan and Kristol. Also note, no one says boo about people like Reid and Pelosi.
But again, do you think people are stupid? I mean let's just reason through this for a moment. Let's put Allen West next to Obamney on a stage together and have them explain their Conservative views. Who will you walk away from there truly believing? Colonel West, hands down of course!
People KNOW THIS! They are smart enough to distinguish CONTRASTS. They can smell the difference between a TALKING POINT candidate and someone like a Mia Love who BELIEVES what she says!
Do you REALLY believe that you would have to tell Colonel West to stop saying ‘we both care about the middle class’ in regard to Obama? Colonel West would look at you and chuckle. WHY? Because he knows that's not true! Those words wouldn't even come out of his mouth!
But Obamney always HAS BEEN and always WILL BE an APPEASER! He is trying to appease the right and the left and he appears weak when he does that.
If Obamney wins, and that's a big IF, he will have done so because Obama is a complete and utter disaster, not because Obamney is the answer. Obamney is a stop-gap candidate at best.
I think that's true... though sad. I wish Romney wasn't the only other choice... but here we are.
You are spot on with the other choices. There would be no hesitation or gray areas... the choice would be VERY clear. But with Romney, he seems weak or too nice and he has many similarities to Obama. Very frustrating. West, Bachman, Love, DeMint, and a few others would knock it oput of the park, Reagan style.
We'll get through this... but in 2016, I'm not taking these bandaid candidates any longer.
You are right... no one is debating that true assessment.
Romney is a sad candidate. I'd just don't like people on the right to repeat that to the left... I think of how I feel about Michael Steele (sp?) when he's on MSNBC... makes me sick, like he's conferring with the enemy. Newt is wonderful and I like him... but I don't like him saying bad things about the only candidate who is running against Obama... and saying that to the enemy. It reminds me of Steele.
I just don't see what any of that has to do with Newt, or other Romney spokespeople, saying negative things about Romney's campaign on national TV.
If you say people are on the fence about Romney, including yourself hesitating at times, how does Newt talking Romney down on CNN help???????? The push over the fence can go the wrong way for someone who is not a die-hard conservative like yourself.
And I'm not a dude, FYI. That's Andrew Breitbart's picture, not mine.
But dude, people know. Trust me, they know. That's why many of them are "undecided". They don't know what to make of this guy. OR they aren't thrilled about him but they look at Obama and think "this guy is a ridiculously horrible disaster" and then apprehensively look at Obamney again.
I am a die-hard Conservative, but even I LOOK AT OBAMNEY and hesitate! But then, I look at Obama and think "there is NO WAY this guy can be allowed to get re-elected."
It's not that I love Obamney that I'll vote for him; I hate the guy; it's because I loathe Obama's views that MUCH that I will vote for Obamney.
If it were Colonel West or Mia Love or Bachmann or any other TRUE Conservative, I'd be freaking EARLY voting for them! lol!
The people I've talked to just aren't excited about Obamney. They'll vote for him, but they're not excited about him.
I don't disagree with you on any of that, but if they want to point out Obama's weaknesses or the fact that he's an appeaser, they don't have to do it by adding to the left's meme that Romney is losing, DO THEY?
And how does putting Allen West on a stage with Obama compare to one of these spokespeople going on CNN and putting down Romney? At least Obama is there to defend himself in person. How can Romney defend himself when Newt is saying negative things about him on CNN?
But I don't think it's wrong at all that Newt has said what he's said. I knew from day one Obameny was going to be a weak-kneed candidate. He was weak in Massachusetts and now he's taken his apathetic approach nationally. He has no passion. He doesn't understand the message of the Tea Party (and I would argue he doesn't like the Tea Party) nor does he understand Constitutional Conservatism.
People aren't stupid. They can see through Obamney's message and they don't see genuine, they see plastic. So, whether Newt voices his opinion or not, people aren't blind. They never were really excited about Obamney, and there's a reason for that -- he's not very excited about us!
I agree with you 100%.
My concern is Newt saying these things on CNN - this may give the perception that the right is divided (and it is) and that doesn't help Romney in the least.
And I share your position... I said it before that I think Romney was the worst of the candidates in the GOP Primary. I don't want to vote for him... but I will because Obama is considerably worse. But I never want to be put in a position like this again. Bush in 2004 was bad. McCain in 2008 was terrible. And Romney in 2012 is an insult. We need a 3rd party that truly represents conservatives Teavangelicals and even Libertarians. A Constitution Party or something like that.
And you are also right... Romney needs to start drinking the tea... well, it may be too late for that now... but he has never been an open supporter of the Tea Party - and that sux!!! For the Tea Party to support him, it might send the wrong message too... Saying that the Tea Party supports the GOP - which isn't really true. The Tea Party's power will be in electing Tea Party conservatives to the Senate and the House... then even a plastic, moderate candidate like Romney will be restrained and forced to fly true.
Good points my friend.
Newt is right. Romney needs to go on the attack more so that he can draw a clear distinction between himself and Obama. Ironically, Paul Ryan seems to be making the conservative case better and more frequently than Romney. Ryan is doing an interview today with Cavuto on FOX News, and you know he will be coming after Obama unaplogetically and will constantly be on the attack. As for the simple theme Romney needs to use, it begins with a "C," CONSERVATISM. Conservative values will save this country and Romney has to say that he is the standard bearer of those values. That way, people in November will have a clear choice between conservatism and socialism. Presented with that choice, people WILL pick conservatism.
Newt is wrong as well. It's not why the price of gas and our national debt are at record highs, but why OBAMA MADE them so.
We must make it clear that HE DID build that, and since many voters believe he deserves at least some blame, if we bring this message across clearly enough, blaming Bush would make Zero look stupid. Right now, we have a campaign about stats, which is great, but what about the policies that caused those stats? If we hit the policies, like we have done on trade, coal, and Medicare, Obama the person cannot escape from Obama the President and Obamanomics the policy.
Oh, yes, and I wouldn't be surprised if Obama actually thought Carter-style policies are helpful. That means he may be silly, but he really cares about helping the middle class. Neville Chamberlain also cared a lot about peace. We don't have to say that he hates (or likes) the middle class even if we say that he hates policies that help, and likes policies that hurt, them. It's not the issue, and Mitt should stay away from this line. The bottom line is: Obama isn't working, and he's dragged America in the wrong direction.
Every congress and executive administration who racked up debt and let the Fed run loose is responsible for the higher prices, because they come from having a failing currency. The currency is failing because of the deficit spending, bailout bills, quantitative easing, etc. It took many decades to get here, and now it is speeding up because the systematic problems are compounded exponentially every time the money runs out.
Bush signed the first bailout, then Obama followed suit. Both republicans and democrats spend like there is no tomorrow. Even Clinton and Gingrich got away with claiming to have balanced the budget, without mentioning the fact that they were still building debt. Nobody regulates the Fed, so they bail out private banks and foreign governments in secret. The American people have no clue how much the Fed has put us on the hook for.
Prices can go higher for many reasons, but when it is across the board, it is likely because of currency devaluation, which is inflation. The tax created by deficit spending is inflation. "The Inflation Tax". This term needs to catch on.
Don't go blaming Newt for debt.
That man was run out of Washington for being conservative.
Clinton was not the great president people think he was. It was Newt that held
his feet to the fire.
After Palin decided not to run for President, Gingriich was my 2nd choice. There are a lot of things Romney could do differently but at what cost? obama is not the typical opponent. Look what happened to HRC in the primary and then to McCain and Palin in the GE.
I think Romney is doing the best he can to highlight the differences between he and obama without sounding overly critical. obama and the liberals are just aching to use the race card again. This is a powder keg. First there was to be no criticism of the first "black" presidential nominee. Now it could turn into the first "black" president doing so poorly that he was not re-elected.
I understand voters are extremely upset about the terrible job obama has done and how many people have suffered because of it. Me and millions of others suffer every day either from job loss, losing their home, or just trying to make ends meet with the high inflation. But I believe the wrong thing to do is to transfer that anger to open bashing of obama. Bloggers pretty much tend to say what they think. Easier to do behind a keyboard than behind a mic in front of the entire country don't you think?
I have heard Romney of late being more assertive and it does wear well on him and I think the American people will respond to it. Frankly, I don't understand what message Gingrich and others think Romney needs to send out that he hasn't already. People may believe McCain lost because he was too nice about obama but he lost because obama was the first black presidential nominee. And btw...obama did not win by that much and some of it was done by voter fraud.
The best thing we can do is pray for Romney and his team.
"Bitter diatribes"? Come on. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Romney uses Newt and others to get the message out there that he doesn't want
to personally state (how Obama has ruined America on purpose) because he wants
to come off like the presidential candidate every US citizen could vote for, in particular, disenchanted liberals and independents.
I also recall every presidential candidate for years acting this way while the VP
candidate and other surrogates are the attack dogs.
I agree with most of what Newt said. However, I have read where Obama has overspent and Mitt, being the good business, has saved a big chunk to flood the swing states with ads.
I also disagree with those poll numbers; sounds like CNN may have been card stacking like the pollsters tend to do with the dem oversampling.
I don't think Mitt is gonna lose, but if he does it'll be because of depressed GOP turnout. And while a lot of that will certainly be chalked up to a corrupt, in-the-tank media, Romney's campaign has done itself no favors with this strategic approach of playing nice with Obama.
Why they insist on prefacing most of their criticisms of Obama with "he's a nice guy, but..." or "we both care about the middle class, but..." is beyond me. When you make Obama out to be a really sweet, caring individual who just isn't getting the job done, you're p-ssing off Republicans and conservatives out there who know he's anything but that and you're also all but telling fence-sitters who like Obama personally to give him one more shot at this.
Back in the beginning of the country, presidential candidates got much more nasty than anyone would think of today. That was when we had politicians with real differences. Now, they agree on most things.
SO HAS ANYONE TOLD MITT? WHY WOULD MITT SAY TO ANYONE THAT OBAMA CARES FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS.
IS HE SETTING HIMSELF UP TO LOSE?
CAN ANYONE HERE GET TO MITT.
Ah yes. Good ole Newt - the guy that once had the audacity to declare in an interview that " Hillary would make a good president " - and sat next to Polosie at the waters edge to declare their solidarity to fight global warming. Mitt is a man of integrity who trusts his instincts; and next week he is going to take it to Obama, much the same as he did with Santorum and Newt in the debates.
OK, I'll say it, or try to, FWIW.
Taking a big step back, I see a silent majority that is mad as he!! and not prepared to take it anymore. That majority is mad at seeing its flag and all that Old Glory represents being trashed by barbarians. It's mad about murdered Americans, be they ambassadors or Military. It's mad at the ingratitude of those same barbarians. It's mad about the fact its children will be deprived of their country as founded. The silent majority has counted carefully all the affronts to this, the greatest country in the world, ever. It is not accustomed to the mindset of the occupant in the WH, who should be proclaiming to all, the miracle that IS America. It does not approve of that occupant, or his 'vision' of destruction for its country.
Americans have too much pride in their hard-won country to tolerate what has been done to it. That's why, despite all the underhanded strategies of the wrong man, and all the fretting about how the right man is running his campaign, the enormity of what BHO has done will be answered in a landslide of approval, for the right man, on November 6th 2012.
There, I said it. Now fire away with the Pollyana accusations...
Newt's right. It's time for the gloves to come off. I'm not worried about how Mitt will do in the debates; I watched all of the GOP debates and Mitt always came off as very solid, despite that he wasn't the first choice of conservatives. Mitt will be fine if he remains solid, but he should throw in some red meat, too.
And Newt has a good point about the messaging. Whatever it is, it's not reaching the base.
Romney reminds me sometimes of W Bush as if I need to be liked and don't want confrontations type of guy.. I worry that Romney will under perform in the debates where a child would be able to run rings around Barack Hussein Obama... Maybe Romney should pretend that Barack Hussein Obama is a fellow republican or Newt and not a black president that can't be insulted or made to feel bad because the press will be on you like hell fire... And this courting the undecided crap is and always was ridiculous.. You need your base to show up in full force not a 42% turn out of your base with hopes your soft spoken i offend no one likeability will turn the undecided to your camp on election day... A razor thin win is not a good plan just ask W Bush about Gore Vs Bush... Fraud can win if your base stays home.... With all common sense filled Americans voting Barack Hussein Obama should be defeated like Carter was. But I fear that with darn near 50% of Americans that have the head of the body firmly placed in the rear of the body it could be razor thin... I also wonder if a President Romney will tell the House and Senate to play nice with the democrats and give them more seats on committees then they are entitled to have etc like the Bush Congress which i felt was pathetic - spineless - inept..
Oh and other thing for the brilliant tear down Mitt supporters like Newt:
Newt ran in the primary and STUNK as a candidate. I love the little nostaglia love BS some have for the man. He had one good debate and then had his butt kicked. He ran a horrible campaign....the media sunk him with his previous wife and I am so sure the MSM that uses him to criticize Romney would have NEVER taken Newt out....oh that is right Newt would have fought back you mean like in the Primary where he could not even get 10 percent after that...IT WAS ALL ROMNEY'S FAULT....BULL Newt is great when he is sitting at a desk or chair with NO ELECTION ON THE LINE! It is so easy when you have to answer to NO ONE is it not. Newt is free to say whatever he wants now!! How tough of him!
And people need to think about this too:
Once people perceive Mitt cannot win....THE MONEY DRIES UP! And it is the Money that matters and make no bones as donors here more and more that Mitt cannot win and that his campaign is failing WHO WILL GIVE MONEY TO HIM? Think about that as the next weeks evolve!
Boy that tearing him down sounds better and better all the time hey?
Mitt didn't have a problem in the primaries using scorched earth against his fellow candidates.
Why is he saying this islam loving Anti American Marxist free spending constitution destroyer cares about the middle class.
The only thing 0b0 cares about the middle class is to put us all in poverty. If Mitt want to 0b0 to win then he needs to continue down a the road praising him. If Mitt wants to win he needs to start playing hard ball like he did in the primaries.
It was constructive criticism. And he was correct, in general. However it was a bit of an own goal to say "Mitt needs a better message." That's negative criticism, not positive.
Positive is: "Mitt has a great message, but It's quite unnerving to see him treating Obama as a friend of the Middle Class. We know Obama is no friend of the Middle Class, and here's why..."
Personally, I think that Romney does need a better message. He needs to figure out how to get people riled up for his campaign. I think that he should throw a whole bunch of that Ron Paul liberty stuff in the mix. It works for Paul.
I am a bit concerned for Romney in the debates. I don't know if he really has it all down well enough to be able to limit talking points and generalities in the debates. We need a real intellectual battle to take place, and Romney has to win it. Romney needs to pull out all of the stops and shut down Obama.
Well obviously we can all do a better job at whatever we're engaged. But for a major guy to say it comes across as negative.
He's doing a very good job already. As Rush says, the fact that he's doing as well as he is despite the insane amount of media cover for Obama says volumes about the strength of Romney's message.
But sure, he could sell conservatism better. Who couldn't? Even guys like Levin could do a better job if they really worked hard at it.
One would think so, but out of all of the Americans that actually vote, I think that most of them would rate about two on a scale of one to ten that indicates political awareness. Sadly, what many vote for is what they have heard or seen the most of. Boob tube sheeple, I call them. The only way to get their attention is to repeat something over and over and over, while having a glaring 60hz light signal penetrate the shallows of their thoughts.
Uhm Micheal? Don't be trashing on my Newt mister! I love Newt, I love his passion, his courage and his freakishly huge brain..I wish it were him in the upcoming debates with Obama. Instead we have Romney...so he(Romney) had better take the advice and run with it, as Newt knows of which he speaks!
If Romney loses this because of playing nice with the devil, the Republican Party is over. We will desert you forever.
Oh God, did this ad say that? Is someone working for him trying to sabotage him? This is really insulting to people. Why on earth do they take people for being this stupid?
Stop with this stupid crap already. Obama is evil, and cares about no one. Why not just give the Presidency away, Mitt? Good grief, get a spine for heavens sake. Would George Washington have said, King George is a good guy, and he really cares about you? No, he fought the Revolutionary War to defeat him. Hey Mitt, are we supposed to vote for lame stuff like this?
The Romney campaign would make a big improvement by simply putting a lid on the Obama is a nice guy garbage. That routine may help make Romney seem more moderate, but it also helps make Obama seem more moderate. Push Obama to the left, which is not hard to do, and Mitt wins.
I don't think it helps him seem more moderate, I think it makes him appear to have bad judgement.
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