Only an Idiot would think it is ok to kill American citizens without a trial, a right given to us by the Constitution.
Yes, see Scott thought the Constitution still mattered, you know, right to trial by a jury of peers. Scott still thought that mattered, but obviously not. A panel can obviously ge together, decide you are a terrorist, oh and you get no say, no defense, no representation, they just decide and then they kill you.
Unapologetic in taking away our Liberty and destroying the Constitution. I want a President that is unapologetic in defending the CONSTITUTION!
RON PAUL 2012!
So let me get this straight, if you are an American citizen, and if a "panel" decides to get together, and accuse you of being a terrorist, without giving the American a chance of defense or council, you can kill them? And forget that as an American citizen you have the right to a trial of your peers, but not anymore. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! THEY ARE DESTROYING THE CONSTITUTION! IN THE NEW DEFENSE BILL, THEY CAN NAME YOU A ENEMY COMBATANT, MOVE YOU TO GITMO BAY, AND KEEP YOU THERE UNTIL YOU DIE, WHILE YOU ARE HERE IN AMERICA! VOTE RON PAUL, SAVE THE DEMOCRACY!!!
Terrorists we kill - that is my motto. America has more tough men and women than any other country I know, and a fiercer love of freedom - use that toughness and love of liberty to squash the death worship and revelling in mangling of bodies that characterized any terror groups - such as the Danish Bandidos who engage in serial torture killings of US and Danish nationals disguised as death by natural causes (neck, back manglings, heart attacks).
Unfortunately "Zero" has been shielding his buddy George, and we have an AG that will not do his job.
One can only hope that those making the decisions to drop a Hell Fire on those jerks heads believe in doing it off shore.
In answer to your question, yes I have. It's far Left rhetoric that is believed by too many sheep.
Yes it is and this is why we like someone who's got the guts to take out the scum of the earth. It takes seconds to see that Christians are being persecuted everywhere. Obviously that's something you don't care about.
Show us ONE instance where a Tea Party member has threatened to kill Americans. Show us ONE instance were a Tea Party member has joined a terriorist group with the explicit aim of killing Americans.
Q: Why do they bury liberals in 100-foot deep graves?
A: Because deep down, they're really nice people.
Same goes for MoosLoons.
Most of what you say is ok, but Perry's record on illegals and individual's rights need a lot of mea culpa before I would comfortably support him.
I guess if he gets the nomination, I will vote for Perry as being the lesser of 2 evils, as he is no different on illegals than king barak I. I hope it is a Cain-Newt ticket as Cain is by far the better choice. The other Negative in Perry's column is his propensity to step all over individual's right to choose for themselves!
do you know that under this regime the state department has been told to favor Moolusm over Christians as far as legal emigration is concerned...it used to be the opposite now we favor those who would destroy us over those who would pray for us...is it just me or is something wrong here............
What is a "Down Twinkle"?!? I "liked" your statement, but only because it's really early, I haven't had coffee, and you said "Down Twinkles" LOL!
hey guess what...i think we are going about this war the wrong way...we need to adopt the same methods they used in WW2...carpet boom the hell out of them till they surrender totally...100% destruction 100% surrender nothing in between...if it is true they love death more than life,and we have been told this, then lets give them death...this world would be 100% better off if we killed all moolsums...ALL of them...of coarse i am just kidding...because me know that mooslums hold no ill feeling towards Christians and allow them to practice the Christian Faith in all Mooslum countries...with out fear of retaliation...right...Go to Saudi Arabia and take your Bible out and read it in any Park...no one will say a thing...TRY IT!!!
If you are a Christian it isn't whether Muslims allow you to practice your faith or not, it is whether you actually practice your faith and if you do are you willing to accept the consequences for it-the Bible is very clear on that the "world" will hate us if we walk with Christ and walking with Him doesn't mean eliminating those you are afraid of-and of course you really can't hate anyone if you are a Christian. To live is Christ-to die is gain! (Phil 1:21)
I don't think God meant for us to just sit down and allow someone to attack and kill us without defending ourselves, I think He meant for us to use our brains and fight for what is good and just and right.
But we do hate evil. And we do so much to protect and preserve the lives of even those that hate us. Like it or not, America is still a nation with christian principles. When we destroy enemy combatants that have sworn an allegiance to principles that are based on Anti-Christian attitudes, we are in turn promoting and enabling truth and justice. By the killing of soldiers that fight against christianity, we help to lessen the sufferings of those that choose to have faith in a God that is hated by the world that he created. To kill your enemy on the battlefield is not murder. There are so many of our brave soldiers that believe soundly in Jesus Christ and are called to fight the evil that the world is facing. God hates evil and the righteous rejoice when evil is destroyed. God is a just God. Giving mercy to those that he chooses. The enemies of God on the battlefield have been given every opportunity to see the truth and if it is the will of the most high, they too will see that there is only one path to the Father, the creator of all that is.
fine then...i want you to go to Saudi Arabia and Preach the Gospel...and i will pay the air fair...Act 9:22 But Saul increased the more in strength, and confounded the Jews which dwelt at Damascus, proving that this is very Christ.
Act 9:23 And after that many days were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel to kill him:
Act 9:24 But their laying await was known of Saul. And they watched the gates day and night to kill him.
Act 9:25 Then the disciples took him by night, and let him down by the wall in a basket.
looks like Paul should have just walk out of the city...or was he running away...
if we took your view then Hitler would rule the world...after all being a Christian means submitting to all Authority right...so we need to re think Japans part in world history also and say we were wrong for defeating you...and think about the south and the war you know THE CIVIL WAR guess there needs to be a re do on that too...after all the south had the Authority to enslave people and have slaves.
I'm sorry but i will not lay down and let people kill me just because you think its the Christian thing to do....I believe as Christians we need to fight for righteousness...expose evil,fight it at every level or we become no better than the heathens we look down on as lost...your way of thinking is why we have ,as a nation,sunk as low as we have,,,don't get in involved..we are not of the world...let the world do what the world is going to do...I'm not going to say -do -react-to anything i as a christian will do my own thing and let the world Merrily go down the road to hell and destruction....
Look around...you have accomplished your goal...we are at the very door of hell right now....as a nation of Christians we have failed........
Newt is probably the best brain in the room but he can flip on a dime. I heard Bob Woodson mention on the radio that when NG was speaker he invited Jesse Jackson to his suite to watch a sporting event, and then there is Miss America and Newt on the couch.
I think Newt did really well and he was the only one to stand up for the Christians being murdered in Egypt no one else talk about that and that is going on right now...Christians women are being raped their houses burned down...and no one talks about that...the religion of filth is wiping out all Christianity from their countries and nothing is said about it...the religion of filth and death is coming to this country and what will we do about it....sorry but they need to be kicked out of this country unless they swear allegiance to the Constitution and forsake Shari Law...if they don't..they go...NOW....
Oh please, Perry is no more Presidential material than your average politician...he can hardy address a question without que cards, stutters and stamers like a novice in the arena, lets support a candidate who can get Obama out of office. Newt and Mitt are the only two who have a chance. I prefer Mitt but would proudly vote one or the other. Newts early political career leaves me with some questions, I do not mean his personal life, which the media has lied about. what baggae do you speak of?
Perry on several occasions has proved he is in no way ready for that 2am phone call....oops is not an option.
What to do, what to do...
As Newton said - at very end of clip -
"... war ... kill people who are trying to kill you."
Newt continues to distance himself from the rest of the pack. We should all be proud that our next president is a guy who won't take sh*t from terrorists or anyone who hates America.
Those fools who think they can get one up on Newt Gingrich in a debate are truly smoking something not found over the counter. Imbecilic moderators like this one serve one purpose...to be made to look like fools in eyes of truth. Damn, I have to watch that again.. that was pretty darn good. ROFL
No, I think you're wrong, poright... Newt will stick up for all of the nominees. He is sick and tired of the fool lamestream media trying to make them look like idiots. To the Abyss with the moderators and the effin' fools for allowing these left wing media CLOWNS to host these treacherous-styled debates. Fools, all of them.
Article III Section 3:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
If we examine the text here we will find al-Awlaki's "missteps", he joined with an entity (Al-Qaeda) who is waging war against the US, by acting as a recruiter for this entity, openly and without reservation, he is adhering to them as well as aiding them. He has made public statements to this effect, particularly via the Internet declaring his intentions, and his status as an "enemy combatant", making himself a legitimate target.
Ahh, to bad you have a pesky fifth amendment that you have to figure out how to rape before you can apply the charge of treason against a citizen with out a declaration from a grand jury.
You would sound far more credible if you actually did a bit more research into our laws before spouting off, about "raping" them.
Article 1 Section 8;To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
I would then direct your attention to something called the Authorization for the Use of Military Force against Terrorists, it was passed overwhelmingly by Congress in 2001 and authorizes the targeted killing of members of Al Qaeda.
Also, because of al Awlaki's status as a dual citizen, the moment he pledged himself to Al Qaeda (an entity at war with the US) and committed himself to aiding them in that war, his US citizenship (by our laws) was forfeit.
Don't know where you were at during Ruby Ridge and its aftermath but we put up quite a bit of outcry here, and made our feelings known in support of Randy Weaver and against the gross misuse of Federal Authority as well as the trumped up weapons charges against him.
"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury,
Yeah, takes so much research to understand that portion of the 5th amendment.
You know the first sign that there is something wrong here is that its OBAMAO.
Secondly he argued for his "right" to assassinate as a state secret privilege.
This logic that you stand behind is what led to Americans being asleep at the wheel through the clinton years when we allowed Ruby Ridge to happen with out any kind of outcry.
Well, now go find the clause for what constitutes a "conviction."
This section 3 you pasted above defines Treason. Now Al-Awlaki did commit treason, but never got convicted. The only authority in America with the power to convict a citizen is the Judicial system, in an "open court." (as mentioned in Article 3 again).
So, for a President to write up a law overnight and cite an undisclosed "top secret" evidence, that no Jury ever analyzed and judged on, to assassinate a citizen of America is down right unconstitutional. The President is elected to uphold the constitution, not piss on it when he sees fit.
Well you see al-Awlaki, a dual citizen of the US and Yemen, fled the US then while in Yemen began working as a recruiter for Al Qaeda (an entity that is openly waging a self declared war against the US). So at the time he committed Treason he was outside the Jurisdiction of our Cilvilian Judicial System, and because he has openly declared his alliegance to Al Qaeda and committed himself to waging Jihad (Holy War) against the US, technically under US law he has forfieted his US citizenship. So technically he was not in fact a US citizen once he declared his alliegance to Al Qaeda.
By the way the law was passed by Congress in 2001, it is called the Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against Terrorists and it grants authority for the targeted killing of members of Al Qaeda. The use of targeted killing is also supported by International Laws of War and the Protocols of the Geneva Convention.
The President's "job" under the Constitution is to execute the laws of the United States, which he did. Even as much as I despise President "zero" he did execute the law.
Unlawful enemy combatants being executed without "open court" is not a new development. I urge you to fully research U.S. history.
Unlawful enemy combatants (spies, saboteurs, terrorists) have been imprisoned and executed since the Revolutionary War to the present day. Out of uniform enemy combatants have always shared this fate, whether it be the Confederate Captain plotting to burn New York City, the plot to spread yellow fever in NYC and Philadelphia, poison NYC's drinking water, or the conspirators in the Lincoln assassination during the Civil War. This designation was also used against Ku Klux Klan members, and German saboteurs who washed ashore during WWII, one of whom was a U.S. citizen.
Any time the Constitution and role of law is respected and followed, I will cheer and support it. And anytime it is not... I will condemn it. No matter their political side. G was right about the Constitution and rule of law. I then cheer his stance. Our Constitution and rule of law is what made this country the envy of the world... undermine either, and you're undermining the country.
Very astute, Cindy. I really really want a Perry/Newt ticket. These two seem to have good American values, and do not act like they are in a dog fight. I also add The Devine Sarah as Sec State. One, I think Perry has the right ideas, and aims, and two, Newt has the DC smarts to get most of it thru. I can just imagine Sarah with the French President! At least that is 2 of us, C.
Right on G! A truth that is long overdue. He raised several notches with that one! Thanks G. for standing up for the TRUE rule of law. Change of subject: this is a moderator??!! Isn't his behavior like a boxing referee jumping into the fray and taking on one of the boxers?! He clearly is not able to control himself so he can perform his duties so he should be fired from that privilege...
Well said Newt, you'd think these moderators would have learned by now that you don't square off with Newt when you're holding empty pistols.