The Right Scoop
Well then gentlewoman LW. Methinks we agree much more than not. I metaphorically uncouple you from DMK and have torn up the imaginary dance card. (Maybe he'll read your hitler quote there and once again say hitler was not socialist) :-)
...and prounce you mentally and politically healthy. C-ya on some other topic soon.
Dr. RS.
Plageurism? Shouldn't you put quotes on that and give credit to Adam Sandler?
Real honest. Kinda' like theft.
Plageurism? Shouldn't you put quotes on that and give credit to Adam Sandler?
Real honest. Kinda' like theft.
The middle = Totalitarianism. Bingo, I get it now. We always live under Totalitarianism.
Who did, and is still doing much much more to target Palin than Palin did to target anybody? The media.
Since day one it has been non-stop Palin bashing. Since the very day that Mcain chose her as a VP candidate. The left targets her, early, often and late. Did anyone kill her yet? No, too bad left, that is what you're going for right? You'll take her death in any number of ways will you not?
First you killed her election chances with lies, then you proceeded to kill her family by bearing false witness. You sought to kill any part of her you could. You looked under every rock. When you ran out of rocks you started manufacturing more rocks to look under. Who has been the recipient of as much seething rage, false witness, and slander as Palin?
Is the left waiting for Palin to get killed? Are they wishing for it? Every GD one of these media slugs that have not let up on Palin EVER, want to blame her? What is she NOT guilty of for crying out loud. What these hypos are doing is lying to a crowd! Do they realize they are inflaming others regarding her? She is a pristine example of innocence here, The media is as guilty as hell regarding what they are trying and have been trying 24/7 to do to her AND her family. The media isn't even Holier than lucifer himself, much less thou.
Touche' and En Garde then :-)
Pssssst...A libertarian might not want to be painting socialism in a flattering light. It's ugly regardless of the lighting. A lovely shade of lipstick might help a little. One could do a pig at the same time and silly two pigs with one stick. Twins.
Libertarian is the direction we should be moving towards. Freedom. Thanks for the interplay.
What's fb by the way?
It isn't a circle. Sometimes good, dancin' folks circle up in a square dance but neither is an illustration worthy of a single promenade or a clod-hopping river dance.
At the left end of the political line segment, there is total gov. control..at the right end there is anarchy...no gov. How is that a circle? It is a segment, not a ray, not an infinite line and not a circle. If it were a circle don't you think we'd be playing ring around the rosies by now(?) or at least doing the Hokey Pokey :-)
Don't care to read it. I'll remain blissfully ignorant of it. It doesn't matter to me.
Either way, central power is in control of the production in either society, whether you call that control "the community" or "government" is semantics. Lenin, Trotsky, and Lenin disagreed on how to make it work, and none were "successful" according to the direct principles of Marx's theory. This is why practice and theory don't go hand-in-hand.
Well, you can take comfort in that. Being alone is scary, especially if you don't like yourself. I don't give a damn what anyone else says. I am as they say, my own man...with a great wife :-)
I just like playing King of The Mountain. You I see, reside at the foothills...at least that's how it should be. I have greener valleys than this in which I caper, skip and eat liberals masquerading as conservatives. They are noonday and midnight snacks.
Ok, one last thing. No, It hasn't been Hedda Hopper Hula Hooping since antiquity. The reason for that is highly technical... i.e., communism would never follow anarchy directly. It's a bridge too far...like your and DMK's (may you live happily ever after) theory.
Weeeeeee! :-)
Of course I picked up the insult. It was an insult to my inteliigence. You are arrogant without a reason. Naricisism based on nothing. (I like alliteration.) We are not far apart. Methinks you like illiteration.
Night.
He drove himself to it. Do you just love the smell of prep H or can you pull your head out for a second?
The Sheriffs news conferance was, uh,,,opinionated (to the nth degree). Nothing whatsoever wrong with being opinionated. I highly respect that, even in doomuses. There are a few times though where it is not an admirable trait. One of those times might be when you are Sheriff and commenting on a recent crime. Ya reckon he got a larger audience than he gets at the Huff?
He Huffed AND he Puffed and no one's house was blown in, (except perhaps his own). I heard the distinct sound of a loud backfire though...whether it was the type of backfire heard 'round the world or not, I know not. BUT...the left is toast and her name is Melba.
OK, let's lie and say you're right, that the political spectrum is a circle. How many degrees to the right must one travel to enter libertarianville? After you answer that, please endeavor to answer this...who's your neighbor on that political wheel now? Is it socialism or communism or something else?
If your theory is correct we could go round and round like a hula hoop on Hedda Hopper. We could travel around that circle in clockwise rotation until we turned into butter like Sambo. Who's porch do we end up on after anarchy?
Ma'am, it sounds really cute and really knowledgable if one is a simpleton, but both your and dmk's assertions that the political spectrum is a circle, is a glimmering example of not-thinking-it-through. The carat count is priceless.
OK, let's lie and say you're right, that the political spectrum is a circle. How many degrees to the right must one travel to enter libertarianville? After you answer that, please endeavor to answer this...who's your neighbor on that political wheel now? Is it socialism or communism or something else?
If your theory is correct we could go round and round like a hula hoop on Hedda Hopper. We could travel around that circle in clockwise rotation until we turned into butter like Sambo. Who's porch do we end up on after anarchy?
Ma'am, it sounds really cute and really knowledgable if one is a simpleton, but both your and dmk's assertions that the political spectrum is a circle, is a glimmering example of not-thinking-it-through. The carat count is priceless.
Like my dear old Momma used to say..."Son, sometimes you can find a good biscuit in a garbage can, but that's not the place to look."
(especially with the left having such enmity towards truth...and editing capabilities)
But the shooter himself is NOT responsible? Try this: The shooter was the only who WAS responsible. Why can it not be his fault? That is the truth of the matter isn't it? You are like a lefty who believes that individuals can't do anything for themselves. This guy apparently did do something for himself. He bought a gun, and the extra large capacity clips, at least 62 rounds that we know of and planned it, and went to the store and carried out a multiple homicide. It was his fault.
If I slashed the tires on your moped would it be DMK's fault or mine? OR, might you have to find a moped basher to blame it on, who somehow hypnotized me into it. This blaming everyone but the performer is wacky. It's tough to describe how twilight zonish it is, but you are right aboard the Good Ship Poppycock yourself with this blame-game. Right in the wheelhouse Give credit where credit is due mkay?
Excuse me ma'am, "uneducated one" here. Are you really suggesting that I educate myself from Wikipedia??? Should I educate myself by editing it, or should I believe the last person that edited it, or wait for the next person to edit it? Did you edit it before you put the link there for me?
Ok, I'm trying to be as fair as possible to you since you are obviouly highly trained by wikipedia and are therfore handicapped to a great degree. (I should say encyclopaedia challenged) I'm not going to read whatever resides on link lane there but for boredom's sake, does it say that the political realm from statism/communism to pure anarchy is a circle? Does anarchy live right next door to communism then? Are they kissin' cousin's like Darwin and his wife? (Mr. and Mrs. Eugenics)? Is there a fine line between those two, or is the reality of the matter that the political spectrum is more like a line segment running from far left to far right?
If this will make you happier, you are still wrong, but I would simply like to head towards the right end of that spectrum/segment until we approximate the founder's original intent. OK?
By the way, does Wiki offer a doctorate program ?
With all due respect, BULLSHIRT! You and DMK might consider tripping the light fantastic...over one another's feet. You have each other's heads so far up one another's colons, an enema might say, "What? Impossible!"
Instead of libertarian, why not be really ambitious and become a librarian. That way you might learn how to discern your own heineken from that hole in the ground you can't seem to extricate yourself from.
Wrong, the political spectrum is more like a line segment. You seem to think it a circle. How very pies-are-square of you. It's more like a pie in your own face however, but anything but a square description of facts
:-)
If you want to "dance on the head of a pin" you might lose some weight first or at least wear some heavy duty ballet slippers. Your's is a distinction without a difference.
RShill7, you might feel better by ignoring the argument because I think it's arguing with someone who is 1. has a personal definition of socialism that does not match what others call socialism, 2. believes the left/right paradigm only fits between communism and fascism, with nothing to account for smaller government, and 3. will not change their mind at all costs.
I might suggest watching this from Jonah Goldberg (it's in 5 segments, this is the first) about his book liberal fascism. You'll feel it fits well for this argument. BSM138 posted this above, but I think it fits well here for you.
When I speak of left to right I speak as if latitude left were all powerful government and ridiculous right is no government at all. If an egghead has a disagreement with this, I 'shrug' it off (like Ayn did with 'Atlas'). DMK and Libertarianwoman should hasten to draw us an actual political spectrum. I suspect a compass would be needed. If they're a little tipsy after a long day, perhaps a Spirograph drawing toy from the 70's.
It's been a while since I read it, but just realized that Whittle wasn't the author. I do believe that I originally got it from something Bill had posted a few months ago on PJTV.
I appreciate you taking a look at the video on Goldberg. I thought the similarities between fascism and socialism were interesting with only literary distinctions on how they are different.
However, there's a chart that Bill Whittle used that I liked that gives a little bit more distinction between on a quadrant system( not a circle). It shows government power on one axis and human nature on another. Although the chart shows small government on the left side(as we read from left to right, it's more of a distinction of no government control towards the direction of complete control), you can flip the chart in any direction and the point remains the same (flip it 180 degrees, and you have your left-right axiom).
http://pajamasmedia.com/zombie/2010/10/11/the-electric-tea-party-acid-test/
RShill7, you might feel better by ignoring the argument because I think it's arguing with someone who is 1. has a personal definition of socialism that does not match what others call socialism, 2. believes the left/right paradigm only fits between communism and fascism, with nothing to account for smaller government, and 3. will not change their mind at all costs.
I might suggest watching this from Jonah Goldberg (it's in 5 segments, this is the first) about his book liberal fascism. You'll feel it fits well for this argument. BSM138 posted this above, but I think it fits well here for you.
You either did not read "Road To Serfdom" or couldn't comprehend it regarding the philosophers of Germany and how they primed and ready for socialism. Yes, they were. You assertion otherwise is as moot as an old boot, good for little other than stinkin' up the place.
You now say they were ultranationalist. That is true, but still means, if the individual comes up against tha national collective...the individual gets crushed every time. "Germany Over All", that's right. Duty to the collective, nothing to the individual. The antithesis of our constitution.
What I am not ignorant of sir, is that the 20th century is one of genocide fomented and supported by marxism, evolutionary theory, eugenics, atheism and yes, socialism and communism. The left would like to revisit those things and live there. When you re-read "Road to Serf..." try chasing it with some Ayn Rand, "We The Living".
You either did not read "Road To Serfdom" or couldn't comprehend it regarding the philosophers of Germany and how they primed and ready for socialism. Yes, they were. You assertion otherwise is as moot as an old boot, good for little other than stinkin' up the place.
You now say they were ultranationalist. That is true, but still means, if the individual comes up against tha national collective...the individual gets crushed every time. "Germany Over All", that's right. Duty to the collective, nothing to the individual. The antithesis of our constitution.
What I am not ignorant of sir, is that the 20th century is one of genocide fomented and supported by marxism, evolutionary theory, eugenics, atheism and yes, socialism and communism. The left would like to revisit those things and live there. When you re-read "Road to Serf..." try chasing it with some Ayn Rand, "We The Living".
"You know that the Nazis weren't socialists at all, right?" This is what I was responding to DMK. Apparently you're also the "Stretch Armstrong" of imagination and the main person your black hole is dragging down is yourself. You're like a soufle/suck-atash of duh. The next thing you might say in keeping with your overstretched imagination is the nazis weren't nazis, the socialists weren't socialists, and Castro is a capitalist. Would you also say that Mao and Stalin were perfect gentlemen with the best interests of their people in mind? Have you ever read "The Road To Serfdom"? It's probably waaaaaaaaay over your head, much like that imaginary halo you pretend to wear.
Guess what. The imagination need not stretch a millimeter to see what the socialist nazis were. Their philosophers for generations, helped create a mindset that said 'do you collective duty, that is the highest rung you can attain on the ladder of life'. Individuality was actually frowned upon. It was a country rife and ready for collectivism, your silly assertions notwithstanding.
Michael, Michael, Michael, grow up my boy. If you call this Journalism you are so mistaken. Now go run to MOMMY.
Michael, Michael, Michael, grow up my boy. If you call this Journalism you are so mistaken. Now go run to MOMMY.
This is why the mainstream media has no credibility anymore. As Rahm Emanuel once said "Never let a crisis go to waste". What a sad day for America. How anybody can use this evil event for political purposes is beyond me. What a shame and it just shows how morally corrupt the left and democrats are.
what's your point? Stalin and Lenin were not Jewish
Although one could debate you on Marx's religious views, I think the fault you have is the originator of the source material does not have to be the same as those who follow it. Throughout history, warring civilizations have learned the tactics and equipment of those of their enemy to use for themselves. Ideology is no different.
What a stupid article. Markos, of The Daily Kos, wrote of 'targeting' certain blue-dog Dems back in 2008. And he used the word 'Bullseye'. Looks like The Daily Kos inspired the killer.
Here is the link: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/25/1204/74882/511/541568
This is deplorable. Palin is not responsible for this idiot. But you are responsible for trying to turn a tragedy into political gain. Shame.
The National Socialist German Workers' Party, AKA Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. That was Hitler’s party “sir”.
You must be that historical black-hole I’ve heard about. You not only “take the cake”, you open up an entire bakery of culinary delights. What a doomus.
This totally irks me!!! The progressives and communists have been working for DECADES to take away our Constitutional freedoms and replace it with what they consider social justice. It is apparently OK for them to come in and change our country from the top down, but for us to get "angry" and speak up and get them to stop makes us, in their minds violent and extremist???? WRONG ... there is a difference between being angry and being violent. (actually I think they know better but they can't say it our they would lose the argument)
If they were to have the house robbed time and time again and the police did absolutely NOTHING to try and help prevent it or to catch the person trying to break in, they would be "ANGRY" too! From there, what they did would be of their own doing. PERIOD! Not someone else's because they may have spoken up about it.
Social justice just takes away from personal responsibilty. That is what this country lacks any longer and those that do proudly want to support personal responsiblity are the ones that are demonized for not being "sensitive"... I am ANGRY! But don't blame me or people like me and say that we are all responsible for things like this that happen. If there were still personal responsiblity ingrained into us, and from a very young age, instead of this "it's o.k. it's not your fault" mentality, I would bet there would be a whole lot less of this kind of activitiy.
Sarah ... STAY STRONG!!!! You have a whole lot of people who admire and support you and want you to KEEP DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING ... WE NEED YOU!!!
Stay strong, Sarah! I admire all that you do and this IS NOT YOUR FAULT!!!! Some poeple just have to grow UP!!!!!!!!
"Targeting" one's opponent in any competition is a common metaphor. You act like Palin was using it as some secret code to activate her violent, right-wing operatives in AZ.
So, by that (il)logic, how many liberals should we persecute and prosecute, for all the blood on their hands? For providing intel to al-Qaeda about efforts to track Osama bin-Laden (http://www.slate.com/id/2132975/)? For getting American military personnel murdered by bloodthirsty, Satan worshipping muslims by disclosing secret operations (http://wincoast.com/forum/showthread.php?101558-NY-TImes-Leaks-Classified-Military-Secrets-on-its-Front-Page)? For working as counterintelligence agents for the enemy in time of war OR peace (http://www.federalistjournal.com/fedblog/?p=2637)? How about for something little, like the mass murder of unborn children (http://articles.cnn.com/2009-01-23/politics/obama.abortion_1_abortion-counseling-family-planning-family-planning?_s=PM:POLITICS)? How about when sitting politicians say they want borders to actually become MORE porous (http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=242993), exposing more innocent Americans to the specter of MURDER (http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2010/11/record-number-of-americans-killed-on-border.html)? (And, by the way, isn't that the same Ellison that's a muslim, and has nothing to say about his mass-murdering brethren, that are seeking to kill Americans, wherever they can find them? I THINK SO.)
I'm sick and tired of this non-pushback against liberal bullcrap. SOMEbody needs to speak up, speak out and NAME NAMES.
I don't understand, are you defending nazi's from being socialists, or socialists from being Nazi's? Is this because Hitler was reprehensible for killing 6 million people, or because he just wasn't able to outdo stalin's 20 million? do you disagree with all mass murder, or just the mass murder by people you disagree with?
So let me get this right, the left advocates violence and if they cannot get what theyt want through elections they go to the courts and if that doesn't work then it is ok to resort to violence, at least that is what is coming out of the Democrats mouths and people like Van Jones, Trumka and Obama. HMMMMMM.
Indubitably sir!
The left has cruised through the stratosphere of hypocrisy at sub-warp-speed and now reside in the exosphere from whence they recruit more airheads and freedom squashers. No parachute will be able to sustain their free-fall. It's coming and the only thing that is transparent is their love of socialism and collectivism. Transparent indeed. Most of us can see right through 'em.
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