I hear more from Obama about what he wants that what he’s willing to concede. First it’s an increase in tax rates and now it’s an increase in the debt ceiling:

BUSINESS INSIDER – In “off-the-cuff” remarks at the Business Roundtable in Washington, D.C, today, President Barack Obama was firm in a stance that he would not be “playing that game” of negotiating the raising of the debt ceiling. He said a rise in the debt ceiling would have to be a part of a deal to avert the so-called “fiscal cliff.”

Obama quoted John Engler, the president of the Business Roundtable, who charged that it’s “not a good weapon for anything except destroying our own credit rating.”

“We are not going to play that game again this year,” he said. “… We’ve got to break that habit before it starts.”

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jimmie smith
jimmie smith

Congress is not going to relinquish the purse strings, pure and simple. That's the only bargaining chip they have left. So this will be interesting to see what will transpire...

agas84363
agas84363

when you spend more than you make you ruin your credit......hard to figure out obama?....that little thing called the constitution in your way obama?...this guy must be held in check!!!!!

Diogenes_wy
Diogenes_wy

Giving this idiot control of the debt ceiling would be like giving a loaded gun to a 5 year old.

hbnolikeee
hbnolikeee

Not playing the negotiating game you say? So quit. Politicians negotiate.

eyewatcher1960
eyewatcher1960

Is this really any surprise? Have it ur way, Czar Obama. Also go ahead and pay off all of the student loans ....although it isn't fair because I actually had to get a job and pay MINE back. Can I be compensated?

tinlizzieowner
tinlizzieowner

I hear more from Obama about what he wants that what he’s willing to concede. First it’s an increase in tax rates and now it’s an increase in the debt ceiling:

We're talking about this Obama, right?

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America ‘s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government can not pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance

our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America ‘s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, “the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”

– Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006

Situational Hypocrite Bast*rd.

Suzyqpie
Suzyqpie

It's on youtube, I saw it. That was all before racism was discovered. That cut is irrelevant now, but thanks for introducing facts, facts are fun and entertaining. Perhaps, facts will become relevant again someday.

tinlizzieowner
tinlizzieowner

Senator Obama or President Obama. Will the real Barack Obama please stand up. Never mind, I think we know by now. :-(

trouble06
trouble06

I'm convinced Obama has something on Boehner or he just likes kissing Obama's backside.

Susitna
Susitna

Recount, impeachment or military coup! It is impossible to negotiate with the enemy no. 1 of the U.S.A.

semby
semby

You are the one who is playing a game. You don't want to negotiate then why did you run for re-election. No President has disgraced his office more than you.

Sober_Thinking
Sober_Thinking

Better give it to him... pretty boy might have a temper tantrum.

He's the worst President in the history of this country. There's not a single good quality about this man/child poser. What a disgrace he is.

marketcomp
marketcomp

Ok let’s think about the moves made by Boehner in the last few days? After the election he goes on all the LSM shows with Diane Sawyer and others saying the President won and Obama care is the law of the land. He goes on with Chris Wallace telling him that we will work this out and avoid the fiscal cliff. Signaling to Obama that he will get what he wants just let me remove some thrones in my side. He removes the conservatives from the committees. Next, he makes an offer to Obama for $800B in tax increases or revenues or what lingo that use to spin this. Obama rejects but he knows he will get what he wants because he is a convicted Marxist and his ideology will trump anything non-ideology that Boehner has. Boehner gives a press conference saying some gibberish about the negotiations but no one is listening because we know he is lying at this point and no one can even bare to look at the clown Boehner. So now we wait for Boehner to concede because looking at the litany of moves everything points to capitulation! SIMPLE and NOT complicated!

americalsgt
americalsgt

By throwing out a demand for a blank check on the debt ceiling, Obama simply makes giving in on the rest of his tax and no cut agenda seem palatable. The concession then will simply be his taking the blank check off the table in return for everything else.

Myptofvu
Myptofvu

1. Make NO deal and go off the cliff because it will be the only way you will ever get any kind of spending cuts out of this admin.

2. We will be back in a recession whether or not a deal is reached. The recovery was fake and that is now beginning to unwind so don't let the fear of another recession scare you into a deal we are already 1/3 of the way into a new recession.

3. The downgrade happened because of not addressing entitlement spending NOT the debt ceiling as Obama is claiming, the sequestration helps in this area.

4. The GOP has clearly shown that they can not be trusted and new candidates should run on a different ticket.

5. There is little sense in trying to take back America at this point as it can not be done. You will not be able to win over enough people to win a Presidential election. You are trying to rationalize with people who cannot even understand that if you outlaw guns then only outlaws will have guns. Trying to win them over on more complicated issues like Capitalism or economic reform is an exercise in futility.

6. Concentrate your efforts at the local levels. Try to make sure you have a good Mayor, Police Chief etc and then a good Governor, Lt Gov. etc. so that your own neighborhoods can ride out the dark days ahead as best as possible.

7. Urge your children to learn Mandarin as Asia will be the land of opportunity for the next several decades. There are a number of reasons for this but the most ironic is that they are the last place on Earth that still employs any real measure of Capitalism.

colliemum
colliemum

From the link: "This morning, the U.S. Treasury outlined the so-called "McConnell Provision," which would change the debt ceiling not into something that has to be raised, but something that has to be voted against. Under the proposal, the debt ceiling would automatically rise unless Congress voted against it."

That is so utterly insane, it is beyond belief.

The POS says he doesn't want to play games any more - this is not a game, this is about the future of the country and its future generations.

I'm going way out on a limb here - but it looks to me as if the POS, that woman on the Detroit council, all the way down to the Obamaphone woman and her tribe, think that money is to be had at the snip of their fingers, with the small difference that the POS can print his money until the cows come home.

I wonder if there's a genetic defect in them all which makes them incapable of understanding that there's no money tree and that money doesn't come out of a tap. There's a deep-seated irresponsibility here, and an unwillingness to work and make do.

mikeinidaho
mikeinidaho

Knew that would happen, didn't you? Give that communist an inch and he'll take a mile.

What's really sad is that the eunuch Boehner will most likely cave on this, too. A pox on both parties and all of DC! Let's watch it go over the cliff and hunker down until the crash bottoms out. Then we can work to restore the Republic, once the leftist morons are gone because they thought that Obama would bail them out.

pmb88
pmb88

He calls it negotiating and i call it campaigning.

BOPOS
BOPOS

The only habit needing to be broken at this time is YOU BO. The wind is blowing.

stage9
stage9

Apparently Rubio and Paul are trying to form an alliance for a 2016 run, but I'll call it now, if they don't include faith as part of their platform, if it's all about money, money, money, then you can count me out...AGAIN! I will NOT follow this GOP train wreck any longer down a path of greed and apostasy.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/04/Ryan-Rubio-Plan-Party-Future-2016#comments

stevenbiot
stevenbiot

Money is extremely powerful, Stage 9. I want the entire focus of the government to revolve around spending less of it.

stevenbiot
stevenbiot

If Ryan agrees with Obama's tax increases, I will turn my back on him as well.

BOPOS
BOPOS

So you let BO win. What a shame.

Conservator1
Conservator1

If members of the GOP in Congress cave on these issues, I will never vote FOR REPUBLICAN again. It's time to call the messianic narcissist's bluff on both issues; increasing tax rates and the debt ceiling.

Leftist Democrats at the White House and in Congress believe they have a better hand in negotiating these issues with Republicans. In fact, they are willing to let the nation go over the 'fiscal cliff' so in January they can resubmit a tax cut for those earning under $250,000 and dare Republicans not to vote for it.

It's time to call the petulant kid's demand NOW. Let Obama and Democrats lead Americans through the horrors that sequestration will bring to our nation. Then Republicans should DEMAND Obama and Democrats to restore all tax cuts or there will be NO INCREASE TO FEDERAL DEBT LIMIT in 2013.

What will Obama and Democrats do when there's no money for them to waste on growing the government while destroying America's economy? IMO, Obama and Democrats are punks that will cave to Republican demands after sequestration when the 50% of Americans who pay no federal income tax get hit with a huge tax increase.

denbren52
denbren52

If I were a betting man, I'd go "all in" on Boehner giving the King everything he wants, including a big fat juicy smooch on his bare @$$.

The good news is that, when he does, it will hasten the formation of the new conservative party that will replace the GOP in 2014.

stage9
stage9

The Führer is done negotiating.

bongobear
bongobear

It's not a game...it's our future and these people ought to begin acting like grown-ups.

stage9
stage9

marxists don't care about your future.

tvlgds
tvlgds

He'll just sign an executive order and bypass congress like he always does.

denbren52
denbren52

I know you're right and I know that the House will do nothing about it when he does. Can we taxpayers petition the Supreme Court directly over separation of powers?

tvlgds
tvlgds

Good question and I don't know the answer. If we can, we'd better do it quickly before the SC is padded with more socialist women!

sjmom
sjmom

If it wasn't for your spending fool there would be no reason to raise the debt ceiling. Repent of your ways and cut spending!

stevenbiot
stevenbiot

He's gonna play the game until he cuts entitlement spending. Presidents don't give ultimatums in this country!

AmericanborninCanada
AmericanborninCanada

He's got flexibility for Medvedev and Putin, but not with the republicans. Dear leader has become what I crowned him 4 years ago. dam

stevenbiot
stevenbiot

Best case scenario - he's gone, if the adulterated Constitution isn't rewritten, in four years.

Yazz55
Yazz55

Obama's just jealous that Morsi was able to declare himself Pharaoh of Egypt after only being in office a few mos. So, Obama's got a lot of catchin' up to do. And this demand for a blank check from the US taxpayer is only a teeny weeny step in that direction.

Watchman74
Watchman74

But he will continue to play the "blame" game.

Wolfie
Wolfie

Bye Bye Republic! Hello Dictatorship!

All Hail the Messiah, NObama! NObama!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JejYWMGNBxA

AmericanborninCanada
AmericanborninCanada

Over one dead duckie's body. We're NOT there yet Wolfie. God help us, we're not going to let them do this.

Wolfie
Wolfie

I'm with you Duckie... So long as there is a beat in my heart... I will fight!

AmericanborninCanada
AmericanborninCanada

That's my fierce fighting Wolfie! You know we've got the best with us! xoxo

sjmom
sjmom

I hear the rumbling of revolution throughout the land.

stevenbiot
stevenbiot

Thomas Jefferson brilliantly stated, " The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

detectivedick
detectivedick

A ceiling and a cliff.....hummm, you can't have them both. Why not eliminate all tax collections and stand at the cliff and look at the ceiling?

I think it is called insanity