Under Obama/Hagel, nothing will make sense in our military:
2009-2016 - The Certifiably Insane Administration.
Once again the Republicans fold like a cheap suit. No surprise! they are as bad as the Demunists anymore. Sad and infuriating! Oh well at least my two Senators voted against Hagel. anymore, it's the little things that count. Lock and load, it's coming.
Are you sure about Rand Paul? I don't see evidence of his vote on the Roll Call
I hope you're wrong and not I. I can't take it.
Rand Paul and his father are NOT strong on defense or foreign policy.
They are OK with economic issues and pro-life, but weak on fighting/punishing crime, drugs, human trafficking, porn.
I don't know where Paul stands on illegal invaders, border control and election/voter fraud.
Better choices all around are Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin and/or Newt Gingrich.
Anybody see Kerry calling us stupid??? I'll never eat ketchup again...What else do the dorks sell???
When even McCain and Graham vote no, thats the biggest hint ever. These rhinos never stop anything!!!
We are at a time in our history where its time to pull the plug on these guys and start primaring them if they refuse to stop this BAST--D President, before its to late!!!
Rand Paul, you dumb-ass!!
But I'm not shocked one bit! Learning from experience (coughOBAMAcough) whatever they say I take it with a grain of salt. We see this happen numerous times, they make a great speech yet won't apply it and when push comes to shove the GOP choose to fall down.
Good god man, will SOMEONE PLEASE speak out to what you believe in and not cave in just because the itty bitty libs got they feelings hurt? Liberals seem to do better in this department, knowing they WANT a nanny-utopia and that's what they are getting!
I know we are seeing some real-life conservative step up to the plate and tell it like it is, but this needs to somehow motivate the GOP to follow by example and own up to what they "say!"
As to Senator Rand Paul's vote.
Earlier today the Senate held two votes concerning Hagel.
- On the Cloture Motion (Upon Reconsideration Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Nomination of Charles T. Hagel, of Nebraska, to be Secretary of Defense )
Quite a few Republican Senators voted in support of Cloture.
However, Senator Rand Paul was one of the 27 Republican Senators who voted against Cloture.
- On the Nomination (Confirmation Charles Timothy Hagel, of Nebraska, to be Secretary of Defense)
Four Republican Senators, including Senator Rand Paul voted in favor of Hagel's nomination.
I've been afraid of this but still sick at heart now that it's come to pass. Rand Paul, ya gotta be kidding!
You would think that Johanns (who is leaving anyway) could have stood up for the right thing. All it would have taken is 1 vote to stop this pos from stepping us off into more ruination. I don't know anything about Shelby from Alabama but I'll remember his name next time around ...
Does this reveal Paul's true position on Israel? Is this to maintain his father's base of support for his Presidential run. Is this blind ambition?
Why even have these hearings at all? Here's what life is like under Obama:
"Okay Hillary/Hagel/Kerry/Holder/Napolitano/Geitner/Brennan/Lee/etc., they're going to ask some hard questions that you won't like. They're going to talk tough and make you look like an idiot. They're going to say a bunch of mean things... but just get through it. It's only one day. It doesn't matter if you claim you don't know or if you say something REALLY stupid... our MSM will cover for you and persecute anyone that tries to rough you up over your comments. After all their tough talk, they will then let you loose and will never bother you again. They've done it with every single other person... it makes them feel good. They're frustrated and losing the war... so let them blow off a little meaningless steam. Then they'll fold, just like they always do. So don't fear them... there's nothing to be scared of. You've got nothing to worry about. I promise."
Welcome to the new precedent... the new reality... the age of the cowardly... mental midgets with big voices and no teeth. Welcome to the end of America as we know it.
Louis Farrakhan got his man - he must be celebrating today, along with all of the other enemies of the United States.
Rand said the Prez has a right to pick his cabinet; he just failed to mention, even if his cabinet will help destroy the United States.
Thanks for the Roll Call! Did you do so for both?
Why did they even waste their time last time with this?
I'm sure the Europeans will be happy by this. After all, by 2016, our military will be no better than Britain's, so what's not to "love?" It's all in the cards, my friends. Obama is the champion of the European-style welfare state, and with that state comes a tiny armed forces. So Obama is right on schedule. And the Senate won't even stand in the way. This will make the world a much more dangerous place to live in. The fools.
Not all Europeans are happy whit this, it is the same as in the USA 50/50 more or less.
We are all in the same situation, it is in the numbers.
Jumping in here with both feet:
If, after 2016, you army or military ain't no better than our British lot, count yourselves lucky! At least our lads know how to fight, and do fight, bleeding and dying next to your lads.
But IMHO, the POS aims to make your military no better than the Italian one, or the French, or the rest of the EU crap, where even the Germans are now more renowned for their beer swilling and sausage eating than for their actual fighting.
Sorry, that had to be said!
Colliemum, it's not a question of bleeding or dying. It IS a question of size and capability. During the war in Libya, the plain fact of the matter is that Britain, France, and Italy could not fight, let alone win, that tiny war without substantial help from the United States, especially when it came to air power. And that was a civil war where roughly 50% of the Libyan people wanted to overthrow Gaddafi, and NATO STILL had a tough time winning that one. So in war, size and capability DOES matter. If the United States becomes no stronger than, say, Britain or France (or even Italy), then who will be around to provide that air and sea power during the next crisis? If there are problems with Iran and Syria, what happens when the United States is not there to stand up against it? If North Korea decides to start a war with South Korea, potentially incinerating countries like Japan and South Korea in the process, what happens if the United States is unable or, worse, unwilling to answer the fire alarm when that happens? The answer is, the world will become a much more dangerous place to live in and rather than standing up to dictators and tyrants, you will end up appeasing them to avoid a war. And how did that work out for you guys with Hitler in 1938 at Munich?
I'm not arguing any of the points you rightly make, and I do agree that the world will indeed become a very dangerous place should BHO manage to destroy your military and reduce it to the level of ours.
The point I wanted to make is that there are a lot of far more useless armed forces in the Western world than the British. So if nothing is done to stop BHO, then having a military like the British, small and no longer capable of standing alone notwithstanding, is not the worst outcome.
That's why I mentioned the fighting, the combat, both our forces have been in, regardless of the asymmetry in their sizes. It's about the spirit, which both our lads have shown to have, and which hopefully will not be destroyed even by the worst BHO can do.
Other military simply do not have that spirit, and in a dangerous world this spirit may be all which can keep us from obliteration.
Mind - your mention of Nevill Chamberlain shows sadly that even the best armies with the best fighting spirit are useless if the politicians are appeasers.
Let's hope that there will be some Churchills around to undo the damage wrought by appeasers.
Just hang on to your gun no matter what. That is the only thing we have left. Because now we are down to our personal selves. Nobody is going to take care of us except us. Defend other conservatives if you can, do NOT defend democrazis. They are on their own. They voted for this sh*te, let them drown in it.
This is a disasterous decision. I'm furious with the limp-wristed Republicans. What a bunch of punks. What a joke. Crap weasels...
So with the new editions, we have Karry who is a national traitor, now we have Hagel who is an anti-semite and friend to radical Islam, and then what's-his-name (Brennan) who actually is a Muslim. And Tim Geitner's replacement (Lee?) is a complete moron... What the french, toast?
So Obama once again gets everything he wants. Hillary gets away scott free. Goofball with the CIA gets away scott free. Holder gets away... no one is held accountable and it's amateur hour in the secretary pool under this regime.
What the hell is wrong with America? Where are all the Republicans to stop this literal insanity? We already know the liberal lapdog criminal MSM is literally worthless. HOW DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING?
How much anger and frustration are we supposed to take over these jack wagons as they screw our country into the ground further and further each day? Trample the Constitution. Take our guns away. Violate people's religious freedom. Force Obamacare on an unwilling nation. Raise taxes. Lower our country's credit rating. Massively increase our debt. Gut our military. Keep the borders unsecure. Openly lie every time they open their mouths...
I know God is in control. But this is one of those times where I guess we're not meant to know why... but to simply trust Him. I guess this is how America is taken out to ensure Israel stands alone... Granted God has their back - BUT WHO HAS OURS? Rhetorical - of course God does... because we can't put our faith or trust in man... especially all these corrupt, spineless fauxmen.
This is inexcusable.
You said it yourself in your last paragraph, Sober. Ask God for peace in your heart and you will receive it. It is supposed to be this way. This is the End Times. Please understand I am angry too. I am furious as a matter of fact, but in the end I know we will be fine and that brings me a peace I never used to have before. Have faith, Sober. Everything will be alright.
Well said, Sober_Thinking! Only four Republicans voted to confirm Sen. Rand Paul, Shelby, Cochran, and Mike Johanns. I am not really surprised by Rand Paul given his and his fathers view about Iran and containment.
I don't know anything about Cochran and Johanns, however, I believe Shelby
has one of the highest conservative ratings if not THE highest.
I knew Hagel would be approved. That's the way it seems to always work. A few people speak out against the nominee for whatever cabinet position; they tell us why he/she shouldn't be confirmed....and then when the vote takes place, he/she is confirmed. I just don't get it. It's almost like there's an unwritten rule that everyone has to vote for the nominee no matter how poorly qualified he/she may be. And that's part of what's wrong with Congress, D.C., obama and every other politician as well....they protect each other over what's best for America. That drives me nuts!!!!!!!
The Repubs feel obligated to vote like they did for Ruth Beta Ginsberg. The late Ted Kennedy and Dems know how to stop Republican nominations in their track.