Misfit Politics has put together a video with a very astute observation about how Obama looks at Christmas vs Ramadan:

Surprised? Me neither.




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Dan
Dan

"you seem to have been lost for something intelligent to say!!!!!!!"REALLY!!!!no that is how i answer leftist like you...if you did serve during ww 2 (which i doubt) thanks for your service....now 1 "have we won a war since then?" answer...YES...I served during Nam we "the soldiers” won that war it was leftist like you who undermined us back home and started rewriting history…it was leftist like you who called returning soldiers baby killers …murders and

started the down word slide of America...its leftist like you we are now 6 trillion more in debt,,,it is leftist like you and your DemonCraps friends who have destroyed this once great country...you sir are what is wrong with this country...

"We would have been better off if Barbara had aborted him" Really!!!!!

If you did server(which i doubt) Abortion was illegal back then you leftist pig and thanks to leftist like you ....we have murdered millions and millions of babies...great work there commie...

oh and you can thank me for my service to our once great country....your work in destroying it is almost complete...way to go there Skippy!!!!!

Dan
Dan

boy you really are as dumb as you sound when reading your comment...cause if you listened to me then you have ESP and we know that comes from Satan so grow a pair and find a bus you can walk out in front of...please make sure it is traveling at about 50 mph...then the job will be done once and for all...i don't want to have to pay your doctor bills and some one as stupid as you should never reproduce we need to end your gene pool here and now...so do the world a favor and find that bus as soon as you can...OK Skippy...get-er done

Jane Dough
Jane Dough

He mentions the Koran but not the Bible? Very telling.

John R Schuh
John R Schuh

Words do matter, right. Obama’s Christianity is thin soup. His appreciation of Islam is obviously much greater.

Frank
Frank

He sounds more like a Muslim then a Christian. His Christmas description was vague whereas this Ramadan description was spot on.

Steve Reynolds
Steve Reynolds

No mention of Christ nor the Bible in the Christmas greeting ...... detailed references to Mohammad & the Koran in the Ramadan greeting .....

Potentially instructive ..... I guess Christ is of little import in the Muslim religion ...... gosh ... ya think maybe his "Christian" faith is little more than political expediency .....?

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Steve Reynolds
Steve Reynolds

No mention of Christ nor the Bible in the Christmas greeting ...... detailed references to Mohammad & the Koran in the Ramadan greeting .....

Potentially instructive ..... I guess Christ is of little import in the Muslim religion ...... gosh ... ya think maybe his "Christian" faith is little more than political expediency .....?

MadMadder
MadMadder

Nanny state, Lol, Yes he's one of many presidents that help take care the people.

Yes, the who's done it before game, as I said, once Obama did it, it was bad, but when others did it, you didn't care.

LOL with your completely stupid made up numbers.

Yes, regs help big boys make more, that is a fact. Regs may make it harder for companies like BP to do things, but it makes it impossible for smallers ones to do it at all.

I never said Keynesian works, I said, NONE of them have been proven to work - they are ALL theories for a reason. Again though, chances are you don't know this, you simply attached onto what others said, and now you repeat it.

You're not ant-left, you don't have anti-left ideals, you're just anti-Obama... that's it, you hate the man in office, even when others have done the same thing you hate him for, you ignore those things, and hate the man in office.

You.... have some serious mental issues along with most of the clowns here.

MadMadder
MadMadder

With your version of education, yes I'm 100% impaired. I try to avoid misinformation and instead gather the truth, then form an opinion, unlike what has been admitted here...

MadMadder
MadMadder

Yeah... get called a schizo for creating your own reality on clear false info, then twist a psychological disorder back as your reply, wow... signature symptoms like no other.

MadMadder
MadMadder

Oh, that's even more sad, that you judge him based on his religion, nothing like stomping on American values to promote your own moral values.

I discredit the video because it isn't factual, I do however accept the full version as factual, and then draw my opinion from it, rather than what is already known to be false.

Does Obama have like a campaign spin site that I get this from? Just wondering what made up story in your head brought this about.

MadMadder
MadMadder

Yep, that's about what I'm getting from guys, over and over... well and some crazy mixed in as well.

MadMadder
MadMadder

Wow, pot met kettle when facts are ignored, lol... fail.

Are you saying it would be a compliment to call you a racist or did I read that wrong?

Oh Obama, blah. Sorry, my facts are free, I'm not selling them or anything, and I don't consider progressivism bad, but yet - I'm not selling it either.

Bah, stupid question... all systems have problems, flaws, good parts and bad, and like wise, they are all subject to greed that can overtake, influence and corrupt them.

No system, idea, form of gov, etc, etc, etc... is perfect, a balance is needed for it all to work.

So to answer your question, nothing is wrong with them until greed takes over.

MadMadder
MadMadder

It is sad that he admits to not accepting facts while developing new opinions based on false information.... kinda a whack job, perfect for this topic really.

MadMadder
MadMadder

Lol, a link to the actual video with a transcript is now disinformation, wow... okay buddy.

Yeah, I'm not much into conspiracy theories.

Clearing up misinformation does not mean I'm defending Obama on all things, even more so when I've agreed with others on several things with Obama that I didn't agree with.

Again, I'm not much in conspiracy theories.

I truly feel pity for you, schizophrenia must suck to deal with. If you're unaware, you have created a false reality based around lies, and you believe it so much, that even when facts are given to you, you toss them away as lies, the truth is twisted to the untruth, and the untruth is now the truth.

I truly hope that one day you wake up and get some help.

MadMadder
MadMadder

Obamacare is hard or far left, but Medicare is.....?

You mean like record spending that started with Republican, Reagan, was pushed above the limits with Bush, and continued with Obama? Now it's left?

So when Fed departments totally screw up, that makes the President left?

Yes, I know pretty much all recent Presidents failed on immigration, several even let illegals become citizens, however I don't blame Obama for it, and I don't now consider it left of what has always been happening.

I don't support his stance on Israel, he hasn't totally cut them off in all aspects, that's part of this Gov's problem, spending is way out of control. My view is left, Obama's is bit more center.

Yeah, some States have infringed on peoples rights, it's understandable, but these type of legal fights aren't new to the Obama admin, and are far from left.

Sorry Poland, we aren't the World Police, build your own shields, if saving money is left, then them damn liberals!

Being that gays don't hurt me or my family, I don't really care what they do. You complain about Gov size, yet wish to increase it to make yourself happy, to protect your own ego, thus more regs. I don't consider this a left issue, rather than a Christian view that is extreme in nature, really no different than a Muslim forcing what they believe on others.

Anti-business, lol.... Obama is a Corporatist, pure blooded, just like Reagan was. Regulations help the big boys make billions more, well today trillions more, they force create monopolies with regs, it's not anti-business, it's super mega business.... you need to really find some new reading sources.

I'm a Marine, I 100% support stopping don't ask don't tell, educate rather than regulate. A left policy would be to openly allow gays and let them be gay, that's not what is happening, his view point is center.

Anti-gun policies, lol, now ignoring policies is anti, you guys are funny.

Is extended or not extended the tax cuts left, it's hard to tell if you're saying lower taxes is now bad, ie left, or less regs is now bad or left, either way, you can't twist your way out of the double standard on this one.

I don't believe any economic policy is totally correct - at that, I don't think any of them are totally proven either. And Obama, is one of many, Keynesian Presidents, it's not an end all card, as you assume.

Lol, Chavez, apoligies, blaming, class hate/envy... I thought this was a topic of Obama being left, those are left things now? Oh my....

Clearly your understanding of left policies, left actions, and more directly Obama's is very limited, and rather funny. Far Left, lol.

MadMadder
MadMadder

If you're going to jump into my conversion with someone else, then keep up with the conversion... seriously.

1) See the conversion. Yes, calling people b.s. names is the same no matter how you wish to twist it.

2) I've answered plenty, I can't keep up with all your twists, it's not possible.

3) Nope, but you asked for one, I gave it... he's done several other things I agree with, and plenty I don't... as I said, typical for a President.

4) My own beliefs? Lol.... that's like me calling you a racist, but hey it's not like you understand that.

5) What am I selling? It must be glass cleaner, cause your 20:20 vision is a bit hazy.

Okay, landslide, to the current Republican field? Maybe if we combine them together, and Obama quits, then yeah that would be a total landslide... but until then, the Reps have some serious work cut out for them.

Always nut cases like you people that will believe anything your side says and dismiss anything against it, period. All of you combined are a micro percentage of votes, but your ego is telling you that you're voice is larger and it's hard to swallow your ego.

MadMadder
MadMadder

Okay... that's a far cry from attacking Jesus. Basically you have a problem with a possible, non-Christian, being President. Okay, while I don't agree with your view point, I accept it.

He probably doesn't know as much about the Bible, then again I know plenty of so called, weekly service Christians, that are totally clueless as to what the bible says, they go through and repeat the motion, but they have no real notion.

I don't really care what he believes or doesn't or if he has to pretend to make people happy. No matter what, he isn't pushing through bills to support any cause, ideal, of any religion/faith, etc... as long as he - like other Presidents, some what accept separation of Church and State, then I'm fine with whatever he's doing in the area of his personal faith.

AmericanborninCanada
AmericanborninCanada

No he's not pushing through bills- he's using executive orders for everything he wants, or uses the bully tactics and media to get what he wants. Everything for the collective- even salvation. Spread the wealth around hmmm. As for separation of church and state- there is no such thing.

MadMadder
MadMadder

Then why does he have bills killed all the time, if he just pushes through what he wants? Yeah ol'Obama, the inventor of bully tactics through the media, the man is borderline genius or something.

Yeah, he's totally spread the wealth around, those dirt poor Americans clearly don't know how rich they are.

I see the separation all over, but sadly the line is getting blurred more and more as religious groups try to strip away our natural rights and replace them with moral values masked as rights.

MadMadder
MadMadder

Okay... It's not really possible to change a persons mind after they admit to not accepting the facts and would rather accept the false information to base a false reality around... how sad.

I'm not an Obama supporter btw, sorry buddy, just because people show you facts, does not mean they support Obama... that basic logic is probably past your twisted reality though, so I excuse you.

MadMadder
MadMadder

Yes, I'm asking you, that's how questions work. But I respect you as well, while you have nothing, at does appear you know when to shut up, and that deserves respect.

MadMadder
MadMadder

Lol, another cut up video, a rather bad one at that, to make it seem like he attacks Jesus... this might reach a new level of pathetic.

While that speech was controversial, it was not what that video said. Maybe you should read the transcript, get the whole truth rather than your skewed perception of it, but then again - facts seem to scare some of you.

MadMadder
MadMadder

I love it when I shut people down to the point of repeating trash and not being able to inject any new logic into the topic at hand. ~ Thanks!

MadMadder
MadMadder

Then equally I don't worship him.... and if you claim that I do, then I you're a racist, it's very simple to understand.

What are his hard-left philosophies?

The class warfare topic isn't new, the media has been going hardcore on it for years, really like 40+ years.... and it's not like we don't have class warfare happening, in all directions. So what's your issue with him talking about what has been in the news for 40+ years and even more so in recent years?

OWS and the Tea Party both have valid complaints, which is what Obama said. I can agree with that, but would add, both have plenty of stupid to go with them.

MadMadder
MadMadder

Incognito? Undercover? Says the guy with a fake handle, no website in his profile, and posts only on TRS sites... Yeah, I'm the deep undercover one here.

Of course, you can see my site in my profile, who is it, reverse ip it, get more sites I own, even find my real name in public records.... but hey, I'm this big transparent undercover secret spy dude here to make you people look stupid.

Well okay, the last part is true.

MadMadder
MadMadder

Umm, yes I said If I worship him, then you're a racist... that's not me calling you a racist, but rather you're calling yourself one by saying I worship Obama.

And talking about cliche's? Hello, worship Obama?

Lol... truly, lol.

MadMadder
MadMadder

How about we stick to a point that matters?

MadMadder
MadMadder

That's sad, when you could have just did a quick Google, then you wouldn't have been confused anymore.

Transcript: http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2011/12/24/weekly-address-president-and-first-lady-thank-our-troops-their-ser

I'm glad I amaze you, but using Google isn't really anything special. No, I didn't over look his failures - all Presidents have them. Yes, many Presidents throughout history have had associations I didn't agree with.

Hey, if I worship him, then your a racist... of course I haven't shown him any actual worship support just like you haven't shown that you're a racist, but hey.... you're not really into the facts, so let's keep those out of the way.

MadMadder
MadMadder

My Church has nothing to do with who I am, what I think, how I feel and it dang sure doesn't define my faith in god.

I fully support total separation of Church and State, to an extreme. At that, I don't care what religion, if any, a President follows. I don't expect them to be Christian, and if they are, I don't expect them to have my values, as they are mine and mine alone.

I've heard many religious leaders say give to others before yourself, of course logically that's targeted towards those that can give over those that need it.

The message of Jesus is that to an extreme.... if you're a member of a Christian Church that says otherwise, I would think about leaving.

MadMadder
MadMadder

Lol, you want me to list what is wrong? Okay... you're asking me to compare an Economic, a Political and Social systems. The problem is, they vastly different from each other, heck some are theories with proven facts and unproven ones, basically, if you understood what each actually was, you would never ask such a lowly question.

MadMadder
MadMadder

Topic twist?

Even Presidents I dislike have done some good, if you're unable to spot his accomplishments and see the good in them, then that kinda says something about you....

But to point out at least one thing: Removing no child left behind and letting the States decide what to do, as long as the option is better, is a very good and smart move.

Blinded by your hate doesn't mean you hate him, it means your ego blinds your faith, thus your mind invents a delusional world to satisfy your egos desire to feed on your misguided emotional attachments to this false reality.

MadMadder
MadMadder

His father being friends with a communist, does not make Obama a communist, nor does it make him one for listening to socialist speakers in College, or America would be filled with Communists.

Lol, if that was the case every kid born with bad parents would never have a chance of improving themselves, as it would already be judged that they what the parents are....

Let's at least try to use some basic logic, please.

Your questions.... I never said Communism was good. I don't believe he is communist, so I can't answer your backwards question. Nope don't like either. I don't see how answering these questions shows any tie to what Obama says, but whatever.

Soooo, what policies has Obama put into place that supports your hypothesis that he's a communist?

MadMadder
MadMadder

Quote from Obama from his Christmas Address: "It reminds us that part of what it means to love God is to love one another, to be our brother’s keeper and our sister’s keeper."

He does mention God directly, moving on... God doesn't say we aren't the keepers in Genesis 4:1-10, thus we are... and Jesus even hints to us being spiritual keepers in Matthew 12:50.

Oh, and in 2010 Christmas address, Obama starts with the birth of Jesus, and he talks about troops again and they talk about helping others, feeding people, etc.... and in 2009 they go over the Christmas tree and Jesus directly again. Of course that's ignoring Easter and other times.

The Ramadan speech is from 2009 and is directed towards American Muslims - not "Muslims"... and he does bring up him being a Christian, and again he talks about helping others, donating time, food, etc, and then he goes into about a new begging and trying to work with Muslim nations rather than wage war - another words, it's not all Muslim/Islam love as you guys like to twist it to be. It's not favoritism, when he has spoken far more often to Christians and longer, and has brought up everything you say he hasn't....

Truly, you can't all be this blinded by your hate.

Who's on first
Who's on first

Obama sux.

His mind is a waste. His wife is a bich.

And I cant wait to see them leave our wonderful White House.

MadMadder
MadMadder

Now that's the rebuttal I expected! To the point, inarguable logic, backed up with factual haha's.... Trs should hire you, asap, you're good.

MadMadder
MadMadder

Lol, yes I'm the one twisting things, yet you believe Obama has a hidden meaning with the word service... it's easy to ignore him saying "It’s why so many of us, every year, volunteer our time to help those most in need; especially our hungry and our homeless." and then twist what service means.... I guess.

Yes, I understand he was talking at a different time during the other video and that the shown video has cut out what was actually said, for the purposing of twisting its true meaning.

My Rev and what Obama said are basically the exact same thing, they expressed the exact same type of help-giving to others, with almost exactly the same words to describe those in need.

Anyway, I'll let you get back to your hate....

MadMadder
MadMadder

That's because helping others, like our troops, is part of what Christmas is about. I should post my Reverends Christmas rant where he went off about giving to others, before giving to yourself..... but hey, it's only bad when Obama says it.

It makes no difference if I brought up Jesus, you compared your charity to his, which is funny.

If you're going to talk about changing glasses, how about attempting to use facts that would change a persons view point first. The entire speech is 3 mins long, mid way through he thanks the troops/vets for the service they've given, and in the last paragraph, which is the actual reference being talked about - it's not the entire speech and it's not all all 3 mins, it was a micro part of it.

Being that he didn't rant on the word service with some skewed meaning applied to it, I would have to say; Yes, it was a perfectly fine Christmas speech.

When you take others false-twisted information, and repeat it, you're sheeping it... I'm not calling you names, I'm stating a fact.

And a liberal progressive, lol.. two totally different ideals and I'm both of them, brilliant.

MadMadder
MadMadder

Sad that I'm replying to this....

You're drawing your opinion based on a highly edited video.

Your focus on the word service, or even the idea that he twisted or bastardized anything, is pathetic, sad, and a prime example of what is truly wrong with America. Stop being a sheep.

Try watching the address, actually listen to it.

You're basically bashing helping our troops through community support and those that need help during the holidays - that's what was edited out.

Anyway... let's ignore those facts and focus on another.

I do know that you're not Jesus, no matter how benevolent or charitable you are. It is kind of funny that you half attempted to rank yourself with Jesus though,.

David Boyes
David Boyes

a leopard cant change its spots ........ he is who he is ..........

MadMadder
MadMadder

You're calling out Obama on his meaning of service, when chances are very good that you do not service humanity to the level that Jesus was speaking of. Again, a slightly misguided double standard that is lined in bigotry.

AmericanborninCanada
AmericanborninCanada

Service for service's sake or for political gain is meaningless. The point here is this man's claim to be a Christian, but his words and fruit tell a completely opposite story. As for serving others, do you know all the people here? Have you super powers to know what kinds of service people here do? I can almost guarantee that these people here who do for others do not do it for show, for recognition, for any other gain, do do it in Christ's name and because of people such as dear leader, are most likely the ones to get marginalized for doing what they do.

MadMadder
MadMadder

Well, I will take his words directly saying he is a Christian, over a highly edited video twisting various aspects of his words to skew its meaning.

And if we're talking about service to the level of Jesus, I don't need to know anyone here or have super powers to know, not a single one of you does anything to the level of Jesus, period - that was the point.

So you're fine with others not seeking recognition, etc for things they do in Christ's name, but you expect Obama to spill his guts every time he speaks to prove he is Christian, and by not saying anything he's not a Christian, when others are..... okay.

Again, a slightly misguided double standard that is lined in bigotry, and I would add a hint of hypocrisy too.

MadMadder
MadMadder

If he was Muslim, or whatever, everyone would still expect him to give us Christians a Christmas wish on our day, even if it wasn't done in Christ's name. And being that his Dad was Muslim, I would expect him to show them some respect too.

I would greatly support any President that was a secularist, and no part of Obama or his actions could ever, even a tiny bit, define him as a communist.

Yep, that was said, it fits perfectly for those that compare themselves to Jesus or expect Obama to do something, they do even do.... which we can see all over these comments.

Stating what I can clearly see and read, is not me passing judgement, it's me observing the facts around me.

AmericanborninCanada
AmericanborninCanada

I don't base my opinions on this bit of video alone. I have seen and heard the man speak many times about Christians, Christ, and his beliefs- and about Islam and muslims. He is not a Christian. Do I believe he's a muslim, not necessarily, but it's apparent by his many speeches that he holds islam in higher regard than Christianity. I'd venture to say that he is more of a secularist, with communistic goals, with enough islam mixed in because of his father and step father's religious backgrounds.

As for being fine and not fine about seeking recognition, I have no problem with giving or doing for others- but when it's for a person's own glory or edification, for political reasons, go for it, but don't attach a christian title to it if it's not in Christ's Name.

I agree that none of us do anything on the level as Jesus- as that is impossible. No one has ever matched Jesus. All we can do is try to do as much like Him, but we will never get it perfect.