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I know this doesn't apply here, but a real journalist would confirm that Romney plans to reduce the charitable deduction, specifically, before getting his panties in a wad about what Romney may or may not have meant by what he said. His plan on paper contains no such elimination of the charitable deduction. His imprecise oral utterance is not proof of anything. All it takes is a request for clarification to the campaign. (I know, giving the campaign a chance to clarify potentially eliminates the opportunity for indignation and high dudgeon amongst your commentariat, such as it is.)
This is exactly why the MSM wants Romney and why Soros says it doesn't matter who wins, Maboama or Romney.
Why is this not a fair stance? A... compromise if you will. Though I think it's a pathetic suggestion with regards to balancing the tax system, way more can be done, but this is a start. Rather than raise taxes on you outright, he is limiting two loop holes for upper income earners who aren't struggling to pay their mortgage... the one drawback I can see is that maybe rich people won't give to charities as much, which is shameful that a below the line deduction is needed to entice people to be good Christians. Though the deduction makes sense to those who are in the middle class (or what's left of it) so middle class families can still give to charity and lessen the amount of taxes they need to pay. Unlike a wealthy tax payer who won't be affected by such minimal amounts.
If you are getting passive income and paying an effective tax rate less than the majority of us who earn our income from wages and pay rates nearly double that of passive and capital income, why isn't Romney's idea a good one? The top of the economic pyramid is getting away with robbery via loopholes and other means that the average person can't utilize. I hate the term "class warfare," it implies that there is a fight between two sides, but there really isn't a fight.... the middle class is getting destroyed while the rich have improved their status, a more appropriate term would be class annihilation.
When I first heard these words come out of Romney's mouth, I physically cringed. It certainly wasn't my first cringe-worthy moment listening to Romney these past few months, but this one was a big one. If I didn't know better, I would have thought I was listening to a democrat politician, an OWS supporter, or the president. If Romney believes he can win the moderates and disenfranchised democrats this way, he may be correct. However, he loses the base of his party with this nonsense talk. What a mush this guy is. No conservative core there.
Pandering ... it's not just for Democrats ... see, RINOs can pander with the best of them.
Must defeat Romney.
What's wrong with getting the middle class going again. Most rich folks give to charity for tax deductions not out of the goodness of their hearts. I hear it said that, well then the wealthy wont give to charities anymore. That proves the point.
Romney has executive experience. He accomplished things. Newt is the only other guy that has actually led something major and accomplished it. I still can't figure out for the life of me how Rick and Newt get a pass on everything they've done but Mitt doesn't. What's so special about them? They have flip flopped also. What's the difference?
Sounds just like Obama. Rick Santorum needs to come out with an ad using that clip and then a clip from the debate where Mitt said "I'm going to cut all taxes by 20%"....so which is Mitt?
How can people want this guy?? He sounds exactly like the left. He even said "continue to pay their current share OR MORE"....or MORE??? They don't pay enough now?? If that isn't speaking to the mantra of the left I don't know what is. He has to be defeated.
To bring to light something that Romney said on the campaign trail and ask how it is different from what Obama says??? Hardly. Just the facts. If Rick put an add with this clip and then put a clip of Obama saying the same thing then just having a question on the screen to the tune of "What's the difference?" I don't think that would be negative campaigning at all. He's not smearing Mitt or twisting words or whatnot. Its what Mitt said. Its what Obama says. Again, just the facts.
To bring to light something that Romney said on the campaign trail and ask how it is different from what Obama says??? Hardly. Just the facts. If Rick put an add with this clip and then put a clip of Obama saying the same thing then just having a question on the screen to the tune of "What's the difference?" I don't think that would be negative campaigning at all. He's not smearing Mitt or twisting words or whatnot. Its what Mitt said. Its what Obama says. Again, just the facts.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident. That all men are created equal..."
So if we believe this principle and if we base our government on this principle, why can't **all men be treated equal** when it comes to the tax code? What's wrong with everyone paying the same rate? And I mean everyone - from field hands to Warren Buffet to General Electric? This is just asinine, playing every income bracket against each other, no matter who is doing it.
Willard needs to stop trying to scam everyone and just run as the liberal Democrat he is. Hells Bells! If Willard would have primaried Obama he could have won by now and be on his way to his party's convention. He could even pull those fake greek columns out of storage.
Created equal? Yes... though that's pretty much where the equality ends. We all were delivered by the same stork, but you can't be naive to the fact that certain people have an advantage over others thanks to finances. A progressive tax system doesn't seem fair to you?
good point. "We are all equal...just not monetarily so that doesn't count so you give me more money....you over there....ahh..don't worry about it."
Romney is going against the leaders of the Mormon Church on this issue http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700189123/Elder-Oaks-testifies-before-Senate-committee-defends-charitable-deductions.html
Romney is a liberal and though he dresses conservatively and parrots conservatism he is nonetheless a liberal. Why some refuse to see this is one of the most astonishing things about this primary season. Mitt is Barack with a R after his name.
He shouldn't be leaving loopholes in for anyone. he's just afraid of middle class backlash... loopholes and deductions are just big government manipulating people. It's government saying this behavior is good, you get a tax deduction! this behavior is bad, you get nothing! like rewarding people for buying a home and punishing people who rent... there's nothing conservative about loopholes. We should be free to live our lives the way we want to without the government trying to manipulate us through our tax returns.
Any way you parse Romney's comments, this is troubling. I get the queasy feeling he is "trimming his sails" for the national arena, thinking this "fairness" stuff will fly. This will only sound like a pale version of O's rhetoric. And there goes your differentiation. Why should Independents vote for him? Where's the contrast?
I am equally worried that if he ties up the nomination, we're going to be very polarized. I will support Romney kicking and screaming if I must. But it will be kicking and screaming. Staying home is not an option. I hear a lot of that kind of talk here. About staying home.
This has become very divisive primary, possibly the most I have ever seen. POS commie tarians like beck and coulter with their attacks against Newt to make their choice look better had me thinking if RINOmeny got the nod I would stay home.
I'm more in favor of voting for him now, but reserve the right to be so pissed off by the general that I vote local candidates only. But resist I much. I must and I will much about that be committed
I seriously have my doubts that he will actively seek the repeal of 0b0care, I think he is somewhat more conservative than 0b0 but not much.
Coulter was at some even in Colorado and Peter Boyles is a local radio host. He said that he wasn't impressed with her and he asked her point blank why Mitt's sons haven't enlisted, if he's so gung ho about going to war.
Romney is pathetic and no matter how much he tries to pander to the OWS they will never trust his out-of-touch Mr. 1% @$$! Mic Check Romney, they want to EAT YOU! http://theuncertaintimes.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/ows-eat-the-rich.jpg
Wow this gonna unify the conservatives. Nothing like a fake conservative using class warfare. I have not heard Rick proposing this! If Romney gets the nomination we are in deep sh&t folks!
Wow this gonna unify the conservatives. Nothing like a fake conservative using class warfare. I have not heard Rick proposing this! If Romney gets the nomination we are in deep sh&t folks!
He is on the Republican primary ticket and 30% of those voters think he is a conservative. We are already in deep shite.
Sarah Palin right agian. We need this primary contest to go on because the real person eventually comes to light. Imagine if he already had this sewed up.
This clown is no conservative. Nice job endorsing him Coulter, Christie, Trump and you other saps. Pathetic!
Sean (Romney will not go on with Mark or Rush) needs to point blank ask Romney if he is a Keynesian! Sadly, George Soros might be right: there is NOT much difference between Romney and Obama. Horrible.
Uh, as I have said before: do the 6 degrees of separation from Romney to Obama till you get Robama. More proof right here as he talks about the 1%.
The more he talks the harder it's going to be to for me to vote for him if he's the nominee. Is he really any different than b.o.? Hmmm, let me count the ways- 1) ummm, nope I got nothin. He's the white b.o. w/o the halo effect. Dear Lord God please help us!
Gee, what a surprise - what a chameleon - what a liar.
The prospect of a Romney/Paul coalition is turgid beyond one's imagination.
So...the charities that he contributes too get to suffer so that he can pander the the Occupoopers? Why is this man running as a Republican? This is just the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. If he thinks that it is a good idea to take money from charities (who pinch every penny till it bleeds) and give it to the federal government (Solyndra anyone?) he is NO ONE'S conservative. Good grief Romney supporters, this man is never going to beat Obama, he agrees with Obama.
Were those gun shots I heard at Romney campaign headquarters? He is JUST like the Occupiers.
I'll bet Mitt Romney has a wicked case of lice and assorted STDs. He is JUST like the Occupiers.
Romney the Magic RINO lives by the sea,
and frolics in the liberal mist in the land of Obamalee.
Romney the Magic RINO lives by the sea,
and frolics in the liberal mist in the land of Obamalee.
Romney he is running, trying to fit right in,
but sometimes her forgets what state that he is in.
And when he forgets, he reverts to his natural state.
To bad for him it is a place that Conservatives really hate.
Oh....
Romney the Magic RINO lives by the sea,
and frolics in the liberal mist in the land of Obamalee.
Romney the Magic RINO lives by the sea,
and frolics in the liberal mist in the land of Obamalee.
Oh yeah Mr. "Severe Conservative", all you will do is make the rich cut back on charitable donations to things like Religion, Cures for Cancer and many other good causes! Idiot!!!
I can't take it, anymore. Romney sucks. Period. He's supposed to be such a great "businessman". So damned what? Herbert Hoover was a "great businessman", too, and look what he presided over: the Great Depression. What was his solution? Spending, and raising the top tax margins to over 60%. How did that work out for him, and the nation? He started a trade war by his 'America first' policies, which resulted in other nations engaging the US and each other in trade, leaving farmers unable to export their produce, steel shops unable to ship their steel, etc. Policies that resulted in exacerbating the jobless situation and the shuttering of businesses and family farms. Romney is just as stupid. I really don't want to do the personal attacks thing against him, but I'm tired of him, I'm tired of his supporters, and I'm tired of a man that dodges the draft, raises a family of draft dodgers, and has underhanded, under-the-table deals with the likes of Ron Paul. Just as Obama is bad for America, so is Romney. I will not support a RINO one-percenter for president, or even dog catcher.
"Romney is sounding more and more like Obama and his Occupy movement every day."
That's why I call him Obamney.
The Mitt Romney Report: Romney's record in MA.
"Romney is sounding more and more like Obama and his Occupy movement every day."
Their souls were sold to the same buyers.
I call him rombama, but I like your name for him too. Scary how versions of dear leader's name and mittens' goes so well together...
If he's good enough for Soros, he's good enough for Obama.
Soros: Obama, Romney 'Not Much Difference'
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/SorosObama-RomneyNotMuchDifference/2012/01/28/id/425830
I saw that a while ago, but I was comparing the two long before spooky dood did ;-)
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