Obama gave F6 planes to the muslim brotherhood, wouldn't that be religion endorsement paid by the state?
USA spends alot of its money buying war trinkets for israel, while americans go broke. Since Israel is a jewish-managed state, they are using YOUR money to endorse religion.
Was that a man or a woman who wanted the portrait taken down? Whatever it was, I wouldn't want to meet it in a dark alley.
As an atheist let me just say well done to the school administrators and the community for standing up to these lunatics!
What the hell is happening in your country?
Its about time someone stood up to those people HURRAY !!! its diff a happy moment...way to go Ohio!!
If they don't like it, they can pay to send their Atheist children to private school. I'm tired of the immoral non-majority telling the rest of us what's acceptable and what's not.
Anyone remember when tolerance meant tolerating Christians? Now tolerance means tolerating all sorts of ungodly groups and perverse lifestyles. Tolerance now means surrender and death to Christians. We MUST SAY NO!!!!
I'm sick of these people. They don't get to dictate anymore what the rest of the country has to do.
It's just like so called gun control. The mayor of Boston, and that cocaine user Cuomo, think they can tell everyone else what to do. Secession is going to be the only answer. I'm sick of living with these,......I better not say it, anymore. They're thieves and ingrates. The Democrats are degenerates and sleazy communists.
Time to move South everyone, I'm ready for a civil war.
The Freedom from Religion Foundation is not obligated to look at the picture of Jesus. If the school demanded that all students, who pass the picture, bow down and kiss the floor in front of the picture, then they might have a legitimate case. The government is not forcing a religion on anyone by having statues, pictures or the Ten Commandments displayed anywhere.
The Constitution guarantees a freedom of religion and when the atheists demand removal of anything dealing with religion, they themselves are promoting the violation of that law.
Every time someone stands up to these people, another crack appears in their dike. More and more, one step after another, it will be shown that the dam is about to break on the attempt to eradicate Christianity from our lives.
Good for them. If we stand up, these godless criminals will lose, but we have to stand up and refuse to be intimidated.
Right on!!! Here where I live a monument of the ten commandments was donated to the school district from the FOE some 50 years ago, well this past fall this group on behalf of 1 students parent demanded it be removed from school property, well we are fighting them and I for one am sick of the will of a few out weighing the will of the majority!!!!
The Constitution and Bill of Rights DOES NOT guarantee or grant the right to freedom FROM religion.
I understand the sentiment, but that is not a picture of Jesus. No one knows what he looks like and pictures become idols or icons. But these decent folks have their hearts in the right place and are speaking for Jesus.
The Feds need to stay out of local schools' decisions. One of the fewbad things Reagan did was to revive a federal Department of Education. He should have left well enough alone.
Praise God for the people of this town who have taken a stand for God and for our Constitution. It's time to fight the good fight and push back the forces of darkness which have assaulted our nation from every side.
whats kind of funny is that I guarantee it is a picture of the blue eyed Catholic "Jesus" like the ones my grandparents had in their home as kid. Which, of course, is not a picture of the real Jesus or anything like him since He was white and ruddy and hair like a raven with dark brown eyes as found in the Scriptures.
Furthermore, the Holy Spirit told you people exactly what He thought of your pictures and the pictures of the heathen in the land of Egypt. Numbers 33:52: "Then ye shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their PICTURES, and destroy all their molten IMAGES, and quite pluck down all their high places:
This word "pictures" is removed from ALL modern "bibles" except a King James 1611. Of course, Israel did not do what God told them to do so God made them pay for it by bloody murder.
Then in Ezekiel 8:7-12: And he brought me to the door of the court; and when I looked, behold a hole in the wall. (A hole in the wall where they watch their "pictures and imagery" and watch abominations)
8 Then said he unto me, Son of man, dig now in the wall: and when I had digged in the wall, behold a door.
9 And he said unto me, Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here.
10 So I went in and saw; and behold every form of creeping things, and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, pourtrayed upon the wall round about. (So this hole in the wall had IDOLS and IMAGES and was ABOMINABLE)
11 And there stood before them seventy men of the ancients of the house of Israel, and in the midst of them stood Jaazaniah the son of Shaphan, with every man his censer in his hand; and a thick cloud of incense went up.
12 Then said he unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen what the ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the chambers of his imagery? for they say, the Lord seeth us not; the Lord hath forsaken the earth. (watching tv via in the CHAMBERS OF HIS IMAGERY).
There is literally hell to pay for watching tv. I could go on and on and explain more about the light of the eye and how the first sin on the face of this earth was committed by a woman (Eve) looking at something she should NOT have been looking at (tree of knowledge of good and evil) and then coveting it. Tick tock tick tock world.
He that is of God heareth God's words, ye therefore hear them not because ye are not of God. May God help you make the right decision now.
I don't recall any physical descriptions of Jesus other than Isaiah 53:2 which describes him as an ordinary man, of no beauty or majesty. More than likely he had dark eyes and hair since he was Jewish.
Number 33:52 is talking about idols. The word "pictures" is not necessarily the best translation of the word. The KJV also mentions unicorns.
As far as the tree of good and evil, Gen 2:9 does say every tree was pleasant to the sight. It wasn't a sin to look at it, just not to eat it. Tho I do agree with you that Satan often uses visual imagery to tempt us.
Anyways the picture of Jesus is not that big of a deal to me, as long as there not worshiping it. It's good to see these people not to kowtow to a minority group just because they hate religion.
I understand what you're saying but can you at least rejoice God's people are finally taking a stand against the forces of darkness which have assaulted our society? I have no doubt Heaven was pleased to hear of their stand for our Savior and Lord. To God be the glory, the honor and praise forever and ever. Amen.
"...since He was white and ruddy and hair like a raven with dark brown eyes as found in the Scriptures.' (maybetoday)
Show us that scripture please.
Also, are you Jewish?
Christians live under the New Covenant. Christ fulfilled the law.
I am not sure of what you are trying to get across here. Can you help me?
It's good to see this happening. The people here in Cranston, RI made a similar stand, but the courts shot them down in favor of the ACLU. One kid complanined and down came the prayer banner by court oreder.
They will come after them. Holder and the ACLU will darken the skies of with planeloads of lawyers and proscecuters. They will bankrupt the school system, and strong-arm, threaten and blackmail the school board members and their families.
All it takes is a strong, faithful leader to say, "No." All it takes is a community to say, "No." All it takes is someone to say that the "demands" that aetheists are making are baseless and ridiculous.
Just because 1 in a thousand or a million is "offended"? Seriously? I'm offended by many things in this world every day but I don't go out and start a lawsuit over it. I don't join some group that focuses exclusively on depriving millions of their rights. I didn't go cry to the media about how persecuted I am... I didn't let my lawyer speak for me.
I get up, deal with the offensive things and move on with life. The things that Aetheists go after (like a cross in the desert, erected by veterans to honor our fallen - that's been there for 100 years) are so petty and stupid. Their agenda isn't to make their lives better... it's specifically to adversely affect the lives of people who love their religion and have the freedom to practice it. Aetheists keep picking at these things, hoping to strip another right and freedom from law-abiding citizens.
Aetheists are agitators... not problem-solvers. They are the MOST intolerant people in this country. Go to some 3rd world country where the "offensive" Christian portraits, etc. aren't posted or available to be seen in public... see how happy you are there (where you aren't "oppressed").
This country was founded on Christian values and beliefs - period. It is in great part because of these beliefs and the faith of our forefathers that this nation has not only survived but thrived. We have been greatly blessed by God. To try and strip that out of our DNA is like trying to separate oxygen and hydrogen from water - you can't do it without destroying the water. But that was your goal along, wasn't it?
Quote: "This country was founded on Christian values and beliefs - period"
If it was then it would be a theocracy, not a constitutional republic.
The founding fathers were more like deists, rather than ardent Christians. Thomas Jefferson even re-wrote the Bible, taking all the mumbo jumbo unrealistic stuff out of it.
"The right to the pursuit of happiness"? How is that consistent with Christian ethics? Christian ethics would reject that right, because it's selfish and therefore evil. How do you rectify the good Samaritan with a right to pursue happiness? How do you rectify all of Christianity's altruism with a right to basically be selfish?
Sure, the founding fathers were religious people. It was the norm for the time, but the founding fathers weren't implementing a country based on Christian texts. The founding fathers knew that theocracies are very bad/evil systems of government, and that what America had to be was a constitutional republic where individuals had rights that trumped whatever ANY religion said (among other things).
It may be argued that America is a lot more religious than America was at the time of the founding fathers. There is a strong movement to co-opt the founding fathers not as founders of a constitutional republic where individuals have individual rights - but instead as founders of a theocracy where the bible (not the declaration of independence and constitution) defines what freedom the individual has.
The declaration said "endowed by our creator", it did NOT say "endowed by God". Get it straight, religious people. A creator can be anything. It can be a God, it can be nature, it can be reality, and countless other things. Note that when you say "our rights come from God", that you are saying something contrary to what the founding fathers said.
I understand the overarching point you are trying to make and a sub point or two is legitimate.
I disagree with your conclusions though. In fact, it kinda came off as a bit offensive. Let's agree to disagree and leave it there shall we?
That makes sense... people should be able to support their position.
My only contention is the way you respond... "nonsense" "Your disagreement is irrelevent." Seems a little robotic and cold. I'll leave it at that.
I don't care whether people agree, disagree, or agree to disagree. I only care about their reason(s), because otherwise I'm left with the nagging question of "why?", and I would hate to have to speculate.
Dude... you've always been a borderline contributor... now you want to come off like this? What are you, the borg?
You will quickly become irrelevant if you want to respond in this manner.
You're off my Christmas list.
If you want me and others to take your posts regarding religion seriously then you need to cut out stuff like this: "Thomas Jefferson even re-wrote the Bible, taking all the mumbo jumbo unrealistic stuff out of it." I mean "mumbo jumbo" When you reference our faith and our Bible in that manner you isolate and discredit your position... And I'm being very diplomatic... As I've grown to be... 20 year old me would have tried to burn you alive! - I wonder if you'll see the humor in that at all?
I will continue to read your posts, because they often make me think and challenge ideas.. But please, even if you disagree with a religious point or religion at all, at least respect the adherents and their faith and don't dismiss it as "mumbo jumbo"
Remember nobody here is trying to force religion upon you.... So why do you attack those of us who have faith? Cant' you have a "live and let live" attitude like I do?