I'm taking a chance with the benevolence of the Moderators, but this is a double post. Reason I am doing it, is because both these threads are getting old, and I want you all to read this. Posted already on the Detective thread.
You won't believe this.
Obama administration let school security funds lapse…
(Washington Guardian) – Beneath the expressions of grief, sorrow and disbelief over the Connecticut school massacre lies an uneasy truth in Washington: over the last few years the Obama administration and Congress quietly let federal funding for several key school security programs lapse in the name of budget savings.
The town of Newtown, Conn., in fact, took advantage of one of these programs in 2000 when it got $125,000 in funds from the COPS in Schools program, Justice Department records show.
Rest of the story is here:
It is heartbreaking and mind-numbingly stupid.
This is what happens when the feds are allowed to steal our money and then give it back when they feel like it, and for what they decide. This is also a reality of having a central bank, and a central government. The money they spend doesn't come from taxes, and schools should be under state and local funding and jurisdiction.
People need to start pulling their children from the schools and protest the DOE and Federal Reserve system.
Teachers and school staff are trained to deal with all kinds of emergencies save one. They conduct fire drills, flood, earthquake, hurricane and tornado drills, and, over the years, these drills have saved the lives of many children (and adults). But NOOO FREAKING WAY are teachers and school staff allowed to train, equip, and prepare themselves to deal with human violence. If Victoria had been so prepared, this could well have had a different ending. The spineless, bleeding heart, goody goody liberals and their elected cretins have all this blood on their hands. I hope their sleep is filled with nightmares.
So we can not arm our teachers so let get a dog at school I have one that this devil's throat would of been a sack for her. One fire from his gun would of been action for her to rip his throat out. A well train dog would do the trick.
Leftists say: "Kill your parents"..... Modern education in USA.
Here is what your children are listening to:
Eftos Kill Your Parents - Lyrics
Active Nihilism - Kill your parents
Make them pay - Hate and destroy
Silencing the void - Pleasure revenge
Wipe them out, Bastards get what they deserve!
Nihilist supreme - Erasing
It is no killing - Useless corpse
Out of the Nothing - No feedback from anyone
These teachers and administrators who confronted the gunman and who did what they could to protect the chidlren are heroes in my book also!
This little lady is a hero and now with father above. I pray for her family and thank her for doing the Christian thing.
Here is a two part report that I think most here would really like.
Thank you for your service, Don! And Bless you!
My husband said something similar...he's a VN Vet. He said one can prepare(mentally) for warfare but not this kind of killing. We've both been saddened beyond words, thank you for your comment!
God bless this sweet angel. May her family find comfort. This hero is in Gods arms tonight and many children are safe with their parents because of her sacrifice. Bless you Victoria Soto.
Americans, always running towards the danger, not away from it. These 6 teachers were heroes. They lost their lives trying to protect the children. God house has many rooms and I'm pretty sure class is still in session , just its up in heaven now.
God bless this brave American that stepped up and did what most Americans would do in this situation. A true hero/leader unlike the "tearful" zero in charge.
God bless Ms. Soto for her actions and bravery. It seems that good people often die young and not of their own doing. If the shooter was so miserable that he didn't want to live, he should have just killed himself and left everyone else alone. Surely there's a special place in hell for him.
Rest in peace, Ms. Soto.
remember police are NOT required to save your life.
far too many people push the wait for others meme.
this woman was going to die no matter what, she chose to die protecting others.
she deserves to be praised.
its about time citizens themselves started protecting their kids.
if a school does not like a parent doing what is needed to protect their kids...to bad.
I admire her courage and act of bravery, the manner of her action I may politicize it this way, so fearless and selfless she was in these moments of this tragic event, If someone with a gun were close by and toss that gun to her, I don't doubt she'll end the shooter even if she'll still got shot at right there
The things many women can do some men like our politicians still waste numerous hours with no decision and minds never mane up.
Lord bless her dearest soul, bless all women, bless their unquestionable decisive ability and help us all to learn from this brave Ms. Soto
true O, still a bullet travels with high velocity and accuracy in most times, unavoidable.
pepper spray and anything far better than nothing I think
I had coffee with a conservative attorney friend. She had great advice. If the perp is leaving yell out to them and shoot when they turn around :) And now you'd added the great ending, yank their butt back inside if they fall out....
I have a philosophy, if you have to shoot an intruder - shoot and then grab them by the collar (so they fall inward). If they fall outside your home, they'll be after you bigtime. I'm thinking the mace isn't a bad idea for anybody, with the court costs and lawsuits with actual live-fire.
Here too Nuke. My NRA instructor went into MN's laws thoroughly. This liberal land has lawyers trolling for lawsuits. We are only permitted to use inside of our home or workplace (only if we own the company). We will be arrested if we defend a neighbor in their home or on their property.
I always carry my pepper spray / mace !
Less chance of lawsuits as well. That's one major problem for conceal-carry that we have to deal with if we need to actually use our weapon.
Yes bullets travel fast but a gun in the wrong hand is friendly fire waiting to happen. My NRA instructor said pepper spray / mace is a better alternative in a lot of situations and my private instructor concurs. I carry it with me always.
no its not. ever train against it?
it does nothing to many people including me.
and how is letting an armed and firing person getting within range of the spray going to help you?
heres a clue.
May Ms. Soto find herself with the loving gaze of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ for the rest of days.
This is my Person of the Year.
I could barely read this article. What a selfless, brave, dedicated woman.
My DIL teaches fourth grade this year after having taught k-2 for several years, this year she stands in for the principle.
I don't want her to ever be a hero. I'm sorry if that sounds awful. But, I want her to always come home to her husband and son and the rest of us who adore her.
How I wish Vicki had a Glock strapped on so she could have stopped this evil in its tracks. I pray may God receive this brave gentle soul into his arms and may her family, friends and surviving students find comfort in you Lord.
Just think if the psychologist and principal would have had a weapon how many would be saved ? RIP :(
They would still be dead and the gunman would have had more loaded weapons. They are not trained to take down armed individuals. That's a job for law enforcement and the military.
If you could ask them at the moment the shooting was taking place whether they would want a gun or not, what would their reply be?
Right, because when seconds count, the police are minutes away. There's a reason I've had professional training on how to use my weapons and practice as much as possible at the gun range. How's that law enforcement working for the citizens of San Bernardino?
Thank you for clarifying. Excuse me for not reading all your comments and responding to the one as you stated. I'll know better next time...
What is it with people on this thread today. have you learned to read or are you a practicing liberal? I will say this for the final time. Armed retired law enforcement and armed retired vets at every school. Does that spell it out for ya????
and having gone through the military training (MOUT) I can tell you the military is not trained to do this stuff, and they should not be.
urban assault is NOT a life saving action for others its to save the life of soldier and take out combatants.
the military is NOT your police force.
How did that work out for the victims of this crime ? Thats the dumbest statement Iv ever heard . Must be the cat typing ?
When did I ever say wait for others? Why don't you read the posts. Keep up the insults and I'll flag you for moderator review.
deal with it.
you push the wait for others and become a victim crap I will call it exactly what it is.