I'd like to prove we don't want what we say we want.
We say we want someone with integrity, honesty, will reduce the deficit, family values, unwavering, a "Reagan" republican.
First off Reagan was a "moderate". It was said he has little chance to get the nomination not to mention win the office. Reagan also said there can be no peace if 1 person is dieing for the rest of us and there is no left or right, only up and down. The candidate we really want is being snowballed. Ron Paul. A "constitutional" candidate. A real "TEA party man.
See? You are discounting the one we really want and the one Obama fears. Since he's been pushed aside and laughed at the Democrats believe they won't need to face off with him. Ron Paul has strong minority support.
When will the GOP see this and wake up?
If that's the case (hating us just because we're not Muslim), why aren't they attacking non-Muslim countries like Switzerland, New Zealand, Sweden, or even China? Oh, yeah, because those countries aren't posted up in the Muslim "holy land", bombing their countries, and killing their people. Let them fight amongst themselves in the middle east, we have no reason to put our troops lives on the line in never-ending wars
Twice of all COMBINED. In other words, since you don't know what that means, if you ADDED UP the amount of donations given to Romney, Perry, Newt, and Santorum then multiplied that total by two, it would still not equal the amount that Ron Paul receives. The military does NOT want to go to war with Iran. If you're so hell bent on doing so, grab a gun and get your ass on a plane and do it your damn self, but stop sending our men out there to die for no reason.
Israel has a military and can defend themselves. We don't need to put the lives of our own military on the line just because our ally MIGHT face a possible threat from Iran one day. Israeli PM Netanyahu has said this himself.
Maybe so, but I see a lot to be concerned about. That Ahmedinejad (sp?) guy is about as crazy as they come. There are serious- and legitimate- reasons to want to keep nukes out of their hands. To make it more squirrely from a foreign affairs standpoint, if China and Russia attack anyone, India attacks them... To be honest, I don't know what the right answer is, but we can't ignore Iran.
So instead of letting Israel fight their own battles, we should go level a country for something they MIGHT do and in turn piss off Russia & China who could quickly level us? Great strategy. Maybe in America we should arrest citizens for crimes they MIGHT commit, but never actually have. Oh wait, with NDAA passing, they just might start doing that.
Ron Paul uses the CIA's own reports when he presents "blowback". He's reading from these reports. I encourage Ron Paul to run 3rd party if the GOP isn't wise enough to nominate him.
Manipulation of what facts I am curious? Do you think agenda 21 is conspiracy? it's a verifiable fact and agenda 21 should have us screaming to get out of the NWO and UN (unless you don't care about land/home ownership or private transportation options, or giving the GOV full control of all food, water, air & 80% of land that will be off limits).
911...I was diving in Cancun and my dive-master told me they heard before the planes even hit what was happening and it was inside job!
McVeigh was innocent, like you could cause that kind of explosion from a van full of manure?
Our Gov created Aids. my mother knew of a guy who was part of it and in hiding because everyone else involved was disappearing. (my mom worked in Aerospace, my Dad for city of LA architectural engineer) one of which is how she most likely knew the guy.
Let's see, the hemp was first drug to become illegal and that was due to it being a threat to the Rockefeller monopoly of the oil and pharmaceutical industry. Now drug war is big $.
The Fed and income tax is illegal. Our founding fathers warned us about allowing private institutions to print $. Our labor was never supposed to be taxed.
Our government defends Monsanto like it is GOLD while allowing these products to flood our food supply w/o research or even requiring labels while most other countries want nothing to do with GMO's in their food supply.
Cures for Cancer have been discovered, they are even ones that are good for you but they do anything it takes to keep them from being published.
Polio vaccines up until like 1998? Had a monkey virus that is cancer causing. (like that could be accidental).
The great depression was deliberate.
Ouch: Rick Santorum’s Nephew Endorses Ron Paul
If supporting the Constitution is talking out of my arse, I am guilty, look where your Neo-Con friends have gotten us??? 15 Trillion in debt, who is talking out of their arse, that does not count the 63 Trillion the government owes the Social Security Trust Fund, the people that paid into Social Security are the biggest Creditor to the US not China. Keep voting for the same old thing.
I am going to sit home and watch your Neo-Con puppet loose while I am drinking beer, I will not vote for the lesser of the two evils again, Your fear of the Constitution is going to put Obama back in office.
The GOP is a bunch of Neo Con liberals, why would we vote for them??? I will stay home and NOT vote for the lesser of the two evils????
>>"It's been made very clear that Ron Paul supporters are more in line with Obama than anyone else"
"Bill Kristol of Weekly Standard/FOX news continued, “If we have to make common cause with the more hawkish liberals and fight the conservatives, that is fine with me, too.”
"Mr. Kristol joked that now they might end up as neoliberals–defined as “neoconservatives who had been mugged by reality in Iraq.”
"In short, Kristol said to the GOP- “if you don’t continue your Wilsonian (Democrat-interventionist) march, we will find a party that will.”
^This^ above is the man who picked Sarah Palin to be the Republican VP. He is a FOX asset who now moves in the elite of the Neocon-run Repub party, and he just today was referred to by Megan Kelly as a "TRUE CONSERVATIVE" on FOX. He in reality is a democrat leftist interventionist, whose father, Irving, came from Communist Party USA..
you know, the group that wanted to export govt change/revolution to every country, now know today by a different name of 'freedom spreading'?
The reality is, you are subscribed to a philosophy that is completely alien to traditional american conservatism, and came DIRECTLY from the interventionist democrat leftists. It was brought into the Repub party from the Democrat party in 1986, along with a influx of Neocon chickenhawks who could not get the Democrat party to go along with more delicious wars.. so they simply came to the republican party and used the media consolidation taking place at that time to buy up every media outlet they could purchase. FOX itself LOST money for the first ten years it operated.. it did not make one cent.
But the end result was that the most ill-informed, gullible and vulnerable to propaganda signed on to leftist interventionism brought over with democrat leftists that runs 180 degrees contrary to Washington, Jefferson, Eisehower, and Taft..
what you are deluded into accepting is a complete lie.
Income tax is not constitutional either and to bring the peoples money back home to the people were it belongs is moral to counteract a wrong.
Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer: "Ron Paul's Policy/Perspective on Iran Most Accurate"
"you can hate on the military all you want"
nice strawman. standing armies are for EMPIRES.
The founders set us up with a MILITIA arrangement to prevent the collapse, costs, debasement and entangling alliances that come with Standing Armies.
The leaders of Standing armies end up finding wars abroad to justify their own expansion, salaries and purposes, while militias want to go home as soon as possible and return to their civilian life.
The 2nd amendment relates to the defense of the nation- by us- the militia, and has nothing to do with hunting or sporting purposes. It was second only to the right to free speech/assembly/religion, that the 2nd amendment guarantees.
If someone is 'hating' in the military is those who have spent decades sending them to third world countries that we could Ban from the USA by denying them all a simple Visa, and putting all the trillions in expenses on a charge card.
There is NOTHING more costly than foreign wars. During WW2 our grandparents paid off that 4 years of debt with 90% taxes on the top earners and by nationalizing industry. We are simply NOT paying for it, and letting the debt pile endlessly.
THOSE are your two options- pick one.
At the end of WW2 to end the massive cost bleeding our treasury, we were demobilizing within weeks after the end of hostilities. Today, we are still occupying bases on every continent in most countries on planet earth. This is not the action of a nation it is the action of a empire, and the one thing that is certain is, a empire collapses like all that came before it in a orgy of debt, corruption, collusion, and deceit.
At law, if you have a good case, you argue the facts, if you have a bad case you argue the law and if you have no case you name call!!!!
Obama is George Bush's third term, at least Dr Paul has a humble foreign policy, not like the war mongers in power???? How does Dr. Paul resemble Obama?????
>>"Ron Paul and the Paulistas have said over and over that it's all or nothing for them and they won't compromise. The blinders are on and only two things will happen, Paul is the nominee or they vote for Obama"
you are now just deliberately being a sore loser.
I have not heard anyone in any Paul meetup, or on Daily Paul even ONCE suggest voting for Obama. Please offer a citation of this or pull your panties out of your crack and apologize for being such a crybaby.
There honestly are VERY few who are going to vote for any of the current Republican candidates at this point, and you can basically chalk that up to FOX.
You cannot insult, cheat, and bully us and then expect us to accept that we are one the 'team', and truthfully its way to late now to even try to get most of us on the team. The last straw for me was last night when Newts idiot brigade swarmed the Paul campaigns rented room during his address to us, and began waving Newt signs in front of Paul. No one in my family or friends will vote for people who kicked us down and then expect us to help them. Its possible the Repub Neocon candidate may get by my estimation possibly 2-3% of Paul's 11%+/- of the Repub base,
but yeah.. you better makes plans to lose at least 7-9% of the base vote, because at least that many of us are definately NOT voting for the same Neocon puppet show.
While virtually no one will vote for Obama out of that pct, there is going to be a Americans Elect candidate, and Paul could still run as a independent. Any of the above who are traditional (non-neocon) conservatives would automatically get the Paul 11+/-% which would put them in all the DEBATES along with Obama and Romney.
Lastly, if americans elect is a lib or neo, and Paul refuses a independent run, we will simplly vote for the Constitution Party which is what I did last time with Chuck Baldwin.
Until the Republican party decides to run American candidates who are representing america I am done with the Republican party and the Democrat party as well. So, while we cannot force Pauls nomination or stop FOX from screwing him over,
we WILL stay home enmasse, which you guys know, and you are going to find you will lose without us.. there really is not reason to bother being nice now, since it really is too late imho.
thank FOX for that.
Romney or Santorum need to actively consider Ron Paul as a possible Veep or as a high ranking member of their Cabinet and make the deal with him as soon as one of them is chosen as the GOP nominee in order to stave off the 3rd party thing and prevent a splitting of the vote. They must all come together against Obomination in order to give him the beat down he so dearly dearly deserves in Nov.
Ron Paul said he will not support someone that does not have the same Constitutional beliefs, So how is that going to happen when the candidates are so off track from the Constitution???? As Americans we need to reconsider the way the government is going??? NDAA has passed making this country an elected dictatorship. Bill Krystol said Obama was a born again Neo-Con, can we put another Neo-Con in office like Romney or Santorum? with the same Obama/Bush policies?????
What is so scary about going back to liberty?
I can give you a gold-plated guarantee on one thing..
Santorum will never be picking ANYONE for any cabinet, unless its related to his curio collection in the family room.
Santorum has absolutely zero potential to get any independent voters, let alone reagan dems to vote for him. When the background in him gets divulged publicly he is going to tank, and tank hard like the clown cadre of 65 i.q. israel-firsters who came before him. Santorum and Gingrich are basically mean. I grew up in a baptist church and you never encountered anyone who projected the anger, hate and hostility of those two, in a religious christian.
The christian persona is a political asset to them, but its farcical to anyone who is not in that 30% of the republican medicare-scooter base that people who claim to be new testament christians want warfare, attacks, bombing, and military force.
The incompatibility of these christian 'values' for these two scheming, compensated, israel-firsters with christ himself forcing peter to put away his sword and telling his follower to turn the other cheek is lost on one particular intellect-challenged group, which are the FOX grade of Neocon deluded repubs.
I am not a fan of Romney either, but he is smooth or at least smooth enough, to get elected depending on how the cards fall, but Santorum has already lost before he even starts. He can ONLY win the repub base, but never will win or even come close to winning a general election.
Thank you for convincing me that Ron Paul is a racist and so are his supporters. I'll be on a campaign to make sure he doesn't win. This is that withered old wind-bag's last chance too. When he loses he'll be dead and you'll have to go back to the Democratic Party where you can hate whites 24/7.
Truth hurts - Ron Paul is a racist and so are you.
Redneck is the new Wetback.
I think you really better do better research before you call Ron Paul a liar. you are believing the liars and the MSM CFR Media that are feeding you lies. If China had a base in Texas and started killing would you let them attack or fight back. What do you think we are doing in the mid east exactly that. We have killed millions in the mid east for what? Can you answer that logically? Has any country in the mid east attacked US. No!!!! Who gave Bin Laden the power to run a terrorist operation. The US gov't did he was a CIA operative before he went rogue. Even Israel's own (CIA) says Iran is not a problem. So wake up and quit spreading disinformation.
Dr Paul is the ONLY candidate that wants to make the government's impact on peoplle's live smaller? ONLY?
What about Obamacare? Repealing it? That adds a LOT of impact on our lives. 26 states are suing the Federal Government to get rid of Obamacare and by doing so, would definitely make the government's impact on people's lives smaller.
And one of those states is Texas. And Rick Perry is the governor of Texas. Do you HONESTLY expect us to believe that Rick Perry does not want Obamacare Repealed and does not want to make the government's impact on people's lives smaller?
NO Rick Perry doesn't want to make the governments]'s impact smaller. By Texas suing the government over ObamaCare, he is actuall DOING something to make the governement's impact on people's lives smaller.
So your statement is FALSE. Ron Paul is NOT THE ONLY candidate that wants to make the government's impact on people lives smaller.
Excuse me, but what how would it effect me if Ron Paul does any house cleaning in Washington? Why would I fear any house cleaning in Washington? If I am not in Washington, have not been in Washington since 2000, and have no desire to ever go to Washington unless absolutely necessary, why would I fear any house cleaning in Washington?????
Can you honesty give a viable reason why I would be afraid of what Ron Paul would do?
The only thing that I fear is 4 more years of Obama and I know that Ron Paul cannot defeat Obama. Never has there ever been a case in US History where a sitting Congressman has defeated an incumbent President. There's a first time for everything... yeah yeah, Don't give me that. There is too much at stake with this election to nominate someone that is a member of a group that has always lost. We need to go with the choice that will give us the best chance. Those of us that have been around for more than one election cycle have seen political cult figures come and go. We cannot take that chance, there is too much at stake.
And don't tell me "But Ron Paul is the only one that can.,,,," I don't want to hear it. Some of his positions are full blown liberal, borderline communist. We want to attract conservatives, not liberals that want to rape the miliatary and leave us defenseless so that Communism can take over "without a shot being fired".
In 1972, after a 49 state landslide, Pauline Kael said "How can that be? I don't know a single person that voted for Nixon". One cannot rely on one's personal anecdotes and to the scope of ones personal acquaintances to gauge a national election. Ron Paul supporters only talk among themselves so they have a skewed view and think that Ron Paul's support is larger than it really is. We cannot take that chance.
If Ron Paul is the nominee, I would vote for him, because I know what the alternative would be. However, it is not my vote that you have to worry about in the General. I say he is not electable because legislators are not electable, not because I would not vote for him if he were the nominee.
The problem is, You Paulbots say that you will not defend the country from Obama and will not vote for the nominee, if it isn't Ron Paul. You want to blackmail us with your vote if we do not support you unelectable candidate. Then we have no choice but to proceed as if we will not get yours and find someone who is electable with or without your vote.
The reason that she is not in the race - or at least the reason that I am glad that she is not in the race - is because any time there is a "it's his turn" candidate, they always lose.
Look at Mondale in 1984, Dole in 1996, Kerry in 2004 and McCain in 2008. The only time that a VP candidate of a losing ticket won the nomination and the Presidency in the next election cycle. was JFK in 1960, and that was only because of BurmaShave and Daley.
She should serve as the Energy Secretary of whomever wins the GOP nomination. That would be where she could make her mark as she worked on the oil commission in Alaska.
The Constitution is not a lunatic position. NDAA is and the candidates have not talked about this except Dr. Paul.
I would rather be a nation without parties, but we were also supposed to be a nation that sent electors to Washington to decide themselves who would be the President rather than have the people vote directly for the President.
Unfortunately with the sytsem the way it has developed, either you vote for someone with an "R" beside their name or you have 4 more years of Obama.
Hey I grew up in the Yellow Dog south, I would love to vote for a Democrat, but the Democrats keep nominating the most unacceptable candidates imaginable.
Ron Paul believes in limited Constitutional government and individual rights. These are anything but socialist policies.
Your argument is double-speak. If your favorite "conservatives" are Kristol and Krauthammer and Morris et al, then you've not done the research into their background, or your a collectivist yourself.
If Ron Paul hopes to promote the libertarian movement --- and we've had better advocates than Ron Paul, by the way --- he won't give OhBummer another four years to destroy this country. Splitting the anti-OhBummer vote would be a disaster for this country.
Larry, there's one inconvenient fact that occurred in the last couple of years that erodes the integrity of your case. You speak of Iranian leader hatred toward the US, but say nothing of the Green Revolution in Iran a year and a half ago. Those leaders, and an overwhelming majority of their followers, were begging for our support and help. Despite your claims, a large portion of Iranians are pro-West, and appreciative of America and what she adds to the world. And as far as our "policy of intervention" producing a never ending cycle of conflict is concerned, evil will always find places to occupy in this world- even when countries choose to ignore it. That evil always produces conflict, and the bad guys usually win when the darkness isn't obliterated by the bright light of freedom shining so, so brilliantly from the selfless bravery of America and her courageous citizens.
Ron Paul was cheated by the GOP committee who counted the votes in a secret location. No Iowa caucus has taken that long to count. And the GOP along with mainstream media has vowed to not let Ron Paul win.
Ron Paul won Iowa. Santorum never polled anywhere near what was shown tuesday night. He along with Newt is paid by Fox as a conributor.
Your post is full of it. There is no link to Ron Paul and any racist organization.
Just because you put a link doesn't prove anything. Candidates don't ask for ID or whats your background before posing for a picture in a crowd. Secondly, the Greenfield article links nothing to Soros and Paul. Its another deception piece that states because Ron Paul wants to end senseless wars that his agenda must be backed by Soros. Ridiculous. And you call it compelling? Did you used to ride the short bus? Or do you work for Mr. Frothy? Or better yet both?
Good points, except on the MLK - he gave good speeches, but anyone partial to communism does not deserve a national holiday in the USA.
Paul is right on the need to cut government, and I certainly see why many would want to support him based on that. However, the other candidates can actually get it done, and he can not. Paul, like far too many legislators, has been more like the furniture in the building, than someobody accomplishing useful things. He's had his chance.
I would like to know if you have read any of Ron Paul's books? Liberty Defined, perhaps? Just thought I would ask.........because anytime I have to form an opinion about a candidate, I usually take a lot of time to study his positions as well as read any books that he has published. Was wondering whether you actually read anything he has published lately?
>>"I certainly don't fall into any of those categories. Wrapping up my 18th year of active duty"
"A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence agst. foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended.
"War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few."
"A standing army we shall have, also, to execute the execrable commands of tyranny; and how are you to punish them? Will you order them to be punished? Who shall obey these orders? Will your mace-bearer be a match for a disciplined regiment?"
"Whenever governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins."
-Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts
The founders never intended that we would follow the roman empire and have a standing army. The end result of this is inflation, debasement of currency, and massive govt spending, leading to eventual collapse.
No entity has the military ability challenge the USA, nor has had such ability in the 18 years you have re-enlisted for a pension. You salary is paid by the productive sectors of private industry, and in recent decades has not been "paid" at all, it has been charged, while corrupt repubs and dems borrow the nation into insolvency to pay the interest on the increasing debt incurred.
You are not part of the solution. your lifetime of public funded housing, income, healthcare, food, transportation, mortgages, lifetime pension checks you will cash, free schooling, family 'benefits' are actually a significant portion of the problem.. exactly as the founders had warned about.
The attack on 9/11 was a result of our own corrupt govt giving Visas to 3rd world nationals no one in their right mind would allow to roam about the USA unless they wanted to destabilize us with the intention of dragging us into war using the actions of these Visa-recipients as a excuse.
You cannot fight a military war with 11 standing carrier battle groups we cannot even pay for against your open-door own immigration policy.
Ka-Pow! It ain't the fact that those people are throwing rocks since the beginning of time...It's the fact that the last rock to hit them in the head came from us. You don't have to think it's a defensible position to recognize it exists. If two strange dogs are fighting in the street, and you stick your hand in the middle of them, you'll get bit...That doesn't excuse the dog biting you, but then you bleeding hand doesn't care if your brain can't figure out the dog. The real question is, can your brain figure out what to do next time?
Of course, Bailout Bush isn't commie at all...or how about health care mandate Romney. Haha. Poor little Republicans, thinking commies who wave American flags are better than commies who don't. You look awful lonely in the losing stands...oh wait, McCain just endorsed Romney...hahaha. I've never heard of a political party in history that imploded faster....Maybe the People's Front of Judea...Hang on, I've got Duke Cunningham on the line...
If you would have watched the live feed last night you would know why Rick and Mitt were so close and why Ron Paul wasn't #1 That's all I'm going to say and you Rep. want to beees can spout all you want I'm done for tonight!!
Iran will not start WWIII but America will if they go after Iran! Here come the Chinese and the Russians and probable India.