Liberals do nothing but plot and plan on how to fool the public, and that's not hyperbole. They cannot sell their agenda with the truth so they must deceive in order to keep from being shut down. Nothing they do is what they claim they are doing. The stimulus was not designed to stimulate jobs, it was designed to push the liberal agenda (including the green movement). The health care bill was not designed to be cheaper, it was designed to put private insurance companies out of business. Dodd/Frank was not designed to stop another crisis, it was designed to kill small banks and the guilty banks are exempt.
I could go on, but the point is that the left knows how they operate, and they think that the same is being done around them. It's all a game to them. They think of what they do and they think Romney is doing the same thing.....deceiving people and setting up the "boos".
With the left, Romney is damned if he goes, and damned if he doesn't... He's a racist if he doesn't go... He's a racist if he does...Yawn... IN reality the media is playing the old distraction game... pointing at Romney for going to the NAACP invite and hoping you won't notice that NObama sent his pet monkey, Biden.. It's obvious Dear Leader had an important fund raiser or golf game or vacation to take... Far more important than addressing the NAACP so poodle boy get that job... The Mainstream Media do what they do... Deflect and defend and point at the other hand... But we all say what the Whitehouse did there.
When it comes to Palin, some people lack any ability to put any real thought into their comments. (yeah, I'm talking to you John3_3). Palin doesn't start a fight when no fight is warranted. She knows that Rice will not be Romney's choice, so it was easy for her to be magnanimous to a lady even though she disagrees with her position on the sanctity of life. If she had come out against Rice, she would have been hammered as trying to undermine Romney. There is absolutely no one whose words are scrutinized more than Palin's. She knows it and she knows when to stir the pot and when to leave it alone.
It's good knowing she'll be around to hold Romney's administration to task, too, if he should win. Sarah doesn't cut any of 'em slack.
I heard Glenn Beck say this week that Americans need to wake up, over and over, one of Glenn's habits that drives me crazy. We need to wake up Congress and pull the ear plugs they wear. Americans have been screaming for over three years about the goofy Congress. We can email, fax, phone, talk or what ever to these deaf and dumb representatives but to get them to take action is nearly impossible. They say we represent the people and lie through their teeth to get in office and once there join the fraternity of the office and adhere to the "blue code". Check this Congressional staff info out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_staff
Sarah didn't actually endorse Condi Rice. If anyone thinks that Rice is a good choice better stop and think she voted for Obama in '08. She's a progressive and pro choice.
Populist Princess Palin appears at the top of her game as the Presidential election season approaches.
Ferraro, Bentsen, Gore, Lieberman, Edwards, Biden... 3 grown-ups out of six... and the trends toward an infantile mindset presents itself.
Bush, Quayle, Kemp, Cheney, Palin... 5 grown-ups out of five...
Our differences with our Veep picks are philosophical, grownup reasons.
I may not agree with all of Condi's world view, but she is one graceful lady.
If she can help us get on the train departing crazy-stan and get back to America, I can live with that. That said, I want a conservative cos the Veep pick is about the future direction of the party.
Sarah Palin told Greta regarding Solyndra, "Follow the money... connecting dots to campaign donors of Pres. Obama. Crony capitalism on steroids."
The reformer in Sarah comes forth once again as it has always been back to the early days of her political career. It was stressed as a theme in her Indianola speech and as a subtext to many of her interviews and speeches that followed.
Sarah Palin has a 100% credibility on this issue of reforming our political system which has corrupted both our political parties. As a leitmotif in her political pronouncements, she stands out separate from the two obsolescent parties, and she becomes a distinct political entity unto herself that's unshackled to the power/money brokers that have ruled our country for the past many decades.
Sarah Palin is the only politician today who has the fortitude and faith to challenge "the system". It's no wonder that they have been trying to take her out ever since she came on the scene.
VIVA SARAH !
Sarah Palin doesn't think highly of Pelosi.
First she called her a dingbat. Now she called her a paranoiac. That means that Nancy Pelosi is a paranoid dingbat. LOL.
Btw her speech this Saturday should indicate how she's going to get involved in this election campaign. Very interesting to watch.
VIVA SARAH !
Mildly pro-life. WTF is that? Its a little like saying that Mo was mildly pedophile. Or mildly genocidal. Its a ridiculous statement. Condi Rice is a stupid choice for VP. Don't give a damn what the NAACP says or does. And Pelosi is an old demon-possesed witch.
The truth is, the mother and/or her counselors decide whether an unborn baby has rights. Obamatax will decide whether the mother can even be a part of that decision.
Personally I think it is an insult to the unborn to call the child anything less than a child. It is the PC crowd who has lent disrespect for the life inside the mother's womb by equating that life to an animal in calling it a fetus. It is a child. Not an animal. Darwinistic relativism be damned.
The confusion is all yours, not mine. All of Western law is based on the morality of the Judeo-Christian ethos. Life is one promise of the Constitution. It is an unassailable. infallable right given not by the state or by law but by the Creator.
Murder is murder. Whether it is the genocide against the unborn or the genocide in Darfur...its all the same immorality, which is an affront to God.
As Christians have said repeatedly over the last 2,000+ years "We would rather obey the laws of God, then of men", when the two clash.
Stop trying to burn the candle at both ends. Its time to put an end to Margaret Sanger's Negro Project (aka PP) once and for all.
The argument of some is caught up in talking points.
The abortion issue is one of great moral consequence.
But confusing morality and law is a deep flaw in the position of some people.
Oh I'm well aware of the law there SNAFU, I'm also aware of word-burners who miss the larger point of the argument like yourself.
Legally, it is not murder, because as a matter of law the fetus has no rights.
Now, if people want to change the law, and give the fetus rights, then it becomes a different story.
Immoral, yes. Legally murder, as the law stands today, no.
Yes murder is murder and you've crossed the threshold of annoying,do you posses any other insight beside your constant rambling regarding abortion? Gov.Palin made her position very clear, you just appear to lack the ability to recognize it!
Palin is a dimwit. Romney shouldn't even be considering anyone that's NOT pro-life.
It's either murder or it isn't murder. If it's murder (as I'm sure Palin would refer to it as that) then she thinks someone that supports the murder of an innocent baby would be a good VP choice?!?!?!?
I mean come on, is abortion wrong or not?!
What in the world is this society, nation, world coming to?!!? And you will find all kinds of posters on here raving about Palin........
First you insult Palin then insult people who admire her while raving like a lunatic. You obviously cannot be rational or objective on this subject. Palin prefers Romney pick someone pro life while being gracious and classy to Rice. You obviously missed that part while mired in your rage.
The only politician with a pro-life view that's 100% credible is Sarah Palin.
I've followed this woman's speeches and interviews the last 4 years and she has NEVER wavered on this issue. NEVER.
There's no greater proof of that than that she actually validated her faith with the birth of her own son, Trig.
No one should ever question or doubt Sarah Palin's pro-life belief because she is the mother who wakes up every morning and sees this bundle of joy and knows that the meaning of her life and everything she believes in the Creation is to follow God's words.
This is why I trust her and will always support her.
VIVA SARAH !
No prob. I usually don't reply to unhinged people like John3_3. His language when talking about Palin strikes me as some of the concern trolling from Libs in past threads. If you read his conversation with the capable and reasonable John_Frank you realize he just plain doesn't like Sarah Palin.
Clueless? How can you turn a blind eye to someone that agrees that a pro murder VP pick would be a wonderful choice? Please explain how you can justify that.
So mittens gets boos from the NAACP, but Biteme can say incredibly ridiculous things there and get away with it. If you can stomach it, watch carefully. He says to the NAACP, "in the words of Scripture, what you do to the least of my bretheren, you do unto me." (That would be a whole comment from me in itself- but not here)
But then he says, "it's time for the NAACP to do what it's always done! What it did for me, a young kind in Wilmington Delaware...." Huh?!
As for Sarah, I don't agree that Condi would make a wonderful VP. She might have more experience than dear leader, but she is pro land for peace in Israel, she's a one world order proponant, she's from an administration which dear leader never fails to blame for all the woes of America- even if it's not true, too many people believe it, she leans liberal more times than not. And, yes, she's so called mildly pro choice. Sorry- you're either pro life or pro abortion, there's no middle ground there.
The rest of the interview was well done and typical super Sarah.
Sarah knows Condi is not going to be VP and she did not want to get caught up in the silly news cycle. She swatted the issue away, no dust up. Well handled on her part.
Right now I am most concerned that Rice was part of the Bush administration. I don't want anyone associated with him in any leadership role in our gov't. Bush was a big spending RINO. I am not saying the subject of abortion is unimportant but let's not get so buried in it that we forget there are many other problems this country faces besides legislating morality.
I agree. Too many people have compromised their convictions (pro-life) for a pretty lady with shiny lipstick.
Never ceases to amaze me how soooo many "conservative" voices on here applaud everything Palin does or says. I have always thought she was silly, ignorant and embarrassing and she proved it again tonight.
what are you, accuser of the brethren ? thats' what the devil in you is. Palin try her best to be nice and diplomatic at least to another human being, of which you are so lacking of. Hold your freaking horse, Condi has done much good, she has never claim she's perfect, so neither you. Quit you whine like a damsel in distress, try to seek the good in others conduct especially Palin, and in this forum.
The Governor said she would prefer a VP nominee who is pro-life, but then some people are clearly hard of hearing.
The Secretary believes in the Declaration of Independence, but because she is not an absolutist in that she does not believe that abortion should be illegal in all circumstances, so making her unamerican is a nonsense position.
According to the declaration of independence we have a right to LIFE. If I'm "out there" for saying that if someone doesn't agree with the declaration of independence they are unamerican then I'll be "out there".
Yes, support a culture of life. Yes, ban late term abortions. Yes, require parental notification.
But make abortion illegal and if someone disagrees they are unamerican? That comment clearly shows the individual is way, way out there.
I agree with you john_frank. everyone needs to read the link you posted. read the part that shows rice doesn't think abortion should be illegal. What is abortion? It's the murder of innocent babies. If someone doesn't think that should be illegal has a head problem and is unamerican:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness
Anyone that defends someone that believes killing babies shouldn't be illegal is unamerican.
People need to familiarize themselves with the Secretary's position.
Abortion Position of Condoleezza Rice – US Secretary of State
The Secretary does not support abortion. She supports a culture of life. She does not support Federal Government funding for abortion. She supports a ban on late-term abortions and the requirement of parental notification.
At the same, being libertarian on the issue, she does not believe that the Government should make abortions illegal.
Finally, the Governor made it quite clear that she would prefer a pro-life candidate.
She said a pro abortion woman would be a wonderful VP.
I wasn't saying that Palin was selling her convictions out, I was saying that the people on this board are selling out their convictions when they turn a blind eye to the obvious. I would venture to guess that most on this board would agree that abortion is murder, but yet they will give Palin a pass on saying a pro abortion woman would be a wonderful vice president. IS IT MURDER OR NOT?
Polite is not what we need. We need truth. We need someone to stand up and say what they believe. Enter Alan West...a true leader....a war hero.....a man of conviction....
BTW, if Alan West says Rice would be a wonderful VP I will call him out on it as well.
The Governor did not sell out anything.
She was polite in her comments. She made it clear with her comment that the Secretary was not her preferred nominee, wanting to see a pro-life nominee, that the answer is no.
She did say that John, she also said that a woman that supports the killing of innocent babies would be a wonderful vice president. Who's hard of hearing?
The real issue is that most people that call themselves pro-life aren't really pro-life. They say they are but when if comes down to it they will sell out their own convictions.
"I have always thought she was silly, ignorant and embarrassing and she proved it tonight."
That has been the story of Nancy Pelosi's entire life. Pelosi has proven to be one of the most mentally challenged democratic leaders in our history that has repeatedly proven she is totally incapable of the truth.
Sometimes I agree with her, but sometimes I don't. I do agree with her more times than not though. I think she's got a lot of guts and has shown how much she's learned in the past few years.
No, a fetus does not have rights. As such, legally an abortion of an early term fetus is not murder. Immoral, yes. Murder, no.
I guess the difference between you and I is that I think it murder and you don't. Because it doesn't matter who has the baby, murder is murder.
We can disagree. Always enjoy a good debate! Especially when I'm right....:)!
The next time that a man has a baby, then it is appropriate for that man to say that having an abortion should be illegal.
Until then, while men can express an opinion, they should remember that it is not their bodies who are carrying the baby to term.
Legally, we do not recognize a fetus as having rights. One can say that having an abortion, when the fetus cannot survive outside of the womb is immoral, but legally it is not murder.
Oh horrors of horrors, I can hear people wailing and going on, but that is the present legal reality.
I think she's come a ways since her interviews with curic, but I can understand what you mean. As for the abortion issue, yes, that kind of suprised me as well. She did say she'd prefer a pro life VP, but would be willing to settle. I think that's how we ended up with dear leader- people always settling and compromising. If someone is going to have convictions, it has to stand up to compromise. Like I said in my original comment on this subject earlier, it's either your pro life or pro abortion- there is no middle ground. A baby lives or a baby dies. Period.
- does not believe that having an abortion should be illegal.
John_frank, you'll have to explain to me why you are defending someone that thinks killing an innocent baby should NOT be illegal.
And explain to me why you are defending Palin for saying someone that thinks the killing of an innocent baby should not be illegal would be a wonderful vice president.
Before some people go crazy, it might help to read exactly what Secretary Rice has to say on the subject:
Abortion Position of Condoleezza Rice – US Secretary of State
WASHINGTON, March 14, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in a candid interview with The Washington Times Friday expressed her position on abortion as “mildly pro-choice.”
Asked, “Are you pro-life? Are you pro-choice? What is your thought on abortion?”, Rice responded: “I believe if you go back to 2000, when I helped the president in the campaign, I said that I was, in effect, kind of Libertarian on this issue, and meaning by that that I have been concerned about a government role in this issue. I’m a strong proponent of parental choice, of parental notification. I’m a strong proponent of a ban on late-term abortion. These are all things that I think unite people and I think that that’s where we should be. I’ve called myself at times mildly pro-choice.
With little prompting Rice continued, “Yeah, mildly pro-choice. That’s what that means. I think that there are a lot of things that we can unite around, and that’s where I would tend to be. I’m very comfortable with the president’s view that we have to respect and need to have a culture that respects life. This should be an issue pretty infrequently because we ought to have a culture that says that, ‘Who wants to have an abortion? Who wants to see a daughter or a friend or, you know, a sibling go through something like that?’ And so I believe the president has been in exactly the right place about this, which is, we have to respect the culture of life and we have to try and bring people to have respect for it and make this as rare a circumstance as possible.”
When told of the belief that in order to be elected a Republican president, a contender must be firmly pro-life, Rice responded, “I’m not trying to be elected.”
Rice was then pushed on abortion, with Washington Times White House correspondent Bill Sammon saying, “But it sounds like you do not wish to change the laws that now allow (abortion)...”
Rice responded, “Well, I don’t spend my entire life thinking about these issues. You know, I spend my time really thinking about the foreign policy issues. But you know that I’m a deeply religious person and so, from my point of view, these extremely difficult moral issues where we have—where we’re facing issues with technology and the prolongation of life and the fact that very, very young babies are able to survive now—very small babies are able to survive—these are great moral issues.
What I do think is that we should not have the federal government in a position where it is forcing its views on one side or the other. So, for instance, I’ve tended to agree with those who do not favor federal funding for abortion, because I believe that those who hold a strong moral view on the other side should not be forced to fund it.”
See the full transcript of the interview:
[bolding added by myself]
Reading the interview it is pretty clear that Secretary Rice:
- personally opposes abortion,
- supports a culture which is pro-life,
- does not want Federal Government funding of abortion, but does not believe at least at the Federal level that the Government should be further involved.
- supports a ban on late-term abortions and the requirement of parental notification,
- does not believe that having an abortion should be illegal.
If the Secretary's position offends some people, whatever, but to suggest that she supports people having abortion is clearly wrong.
She did say that John, she also said that a woman that supports the killing of innocent babies would be a wonderful vice president.
It's not that I don't agree with most of her politics it's that she is so ditsy. She's silly and she can't hold her own when challenged by someone that doesn't agree with her politics, (Katy Curic, Charles Gibson) and it's embarrassing. I mean watching her in an interview is like watching your child performing in a play or something, you're sitting there hoping they don't mess up.
And she really dropped the ball tonight. Here is what I would have considered an appropriate response to Greta when she asked Palin about the abortion issue:
Well Greta, as a Christian I can not and never will support or endorse any candidate that is seeking a leadership position that supports the killing of an innocent baby. The Bible is quite clear that the Lord does not condone the shedding of innocent blood.
I would have applauded her for saying something like that. Instead she said Condi would be a wonderful choice. How wonderful could someone that believes the murder of an innocent baby is somehow justifiable?
I understand I may be part of the minority here but it's still right! The Bible is still right! And I won't compromise it for a pretty lady with shiny lipstick.