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I would pay as much attention to RINO Ryan's talk as I would to a pile of dog feces in a dirt yard. He doesn't hold any relevance in my eyes.
Ryan has been smelling that DC lib stench too long... its going to his head and he's begining to think like them...
Geez. THIS is the supposed front runner of the GOP? Along with Marco Rubio who is pushing what amounts to amnesty without a secured border first? Yeah. I will remain an independent for now, thanks.
Sounds like a man making sure he holds onto to his job. LOL!
I think this may have been a subtle jab to Obama. I really don't know which Clinton he is talking about, but I am disappointed he did not give any credit to what Republicans did when Clinton was president. Clinton did not move to the center because he wanted to, Gingrich grabbed him by the neck and dragged his a$$ there.
Mr. Ryan your RINO thinking is obvious when you praise the Clinton presidency, but say nothing about the republicans who were running Congress back then. If you want us to return to the Clinton days, that would also mean you want a republican party with some big b@lls who will not waive the white flag.
If he's talking about Hillary I disagree. She would have pushed nationalized health care as well. It just wouldn't be as bad.
I disagree if it was bill as well because he would have had a super majority his first two years. The only reason Bill was able to do the things he did was because he had a Republican Congress...and he worked with them (or went along kicking and screaming). If Bill had a super majority like Obama did, I'd be willing to bet my house that it would have been a failed Presidency.
Paul Ryan in less than 90 days to become a future self-proclaimed conservative candidate, to a clown. He is not the only dirtbag, that is out there
Maybe he should have mentioned a Gingrich Speakership. Newt likes to take credit for forcing BC to "balance the budget" -- in some sense anyway.
This guy is a DC insider who has played the 'consrvative' part but is gradually revealing his core. He is what I would calla CINO (conservative in name only). He things apparently that his road to the presidency is via the 'moderate' GOPe image.
Anyone who follows football will understand that when a "losing" organization hires a new coach and staff, that the first obstacle to overcome is the "losing culture."
The front office, from the top down, has to change its mindset to start winning. This is what people like Belicheck and Tony Dungy faced.
This is what's happening with the GOP. The losing mindset is clearly setting in. Obviously, what is needed is new leadership and blood.
I'm tired of hearing the same pablum, "we have to move the center (again), we have to compromise, they won, we have to attract new voters, we have to get rid of social issues and religious conservatives to win."
With the verbiage coming out of these leaders, is it any wonder why we lose? Look at the supposed braintrust of our "supposed" movement, George Will, Brooks, Jennifer Rubin etc. These people are ossified in their cushy, little desk jobs, They have no clue what it takes to win elections. Just look at who they shoved down our throats during the primary. We were assured by these people (Ann Coulter et al) that Romney was the winner. He was moderate enough to get those women voters and that social issues didn't matter, people only voted on the economy. What happened? Romney lost, he didn't attract the women voters, and people didn't voted on the economy! I'm perplexed that these perpetual losers still even have credibility left.
Hi Philly,
I agree with most of what you wrote, except that part about the supposed braintrust of our "supposed" movement. Will, Brooks, Rubin etc DO NOT care if we win or loss elections. They are part of the permanent political class, the new oligarchy. They are set for life whether Dems or moderate Reps are in control of the administration or Congress. Their lifestyle in boomtown is safe, and that's all they care about. They are more scared if we somehow elect a constitutional conservative president, or conservatives by some miracle take over Congress, than to have a socialist in the White House and Dems in control of Congress.
Hi Travelin:
Good to "see" you in these parts. My point about the "supposed" is in quotes for a reason. This statement was steeped in sarcasm b/c I am taking the accepted conventional wisdom and trying to demonstrate how ridiculous it is.
However, it seems these people still have some sway with our primary voters, b/c many of the Republicans "bought into" the arguments for Romney and against someone like Santorum.
yeah.. its going to be tough to find a really true conservative republican... i think the republican party is over.. they are feeding themselves to the lions, and leaving us to clean up the mess....
That's right. I remember that Ryan had to make a "special" phone call to Santorum about his endorsement of Romney.
Good times. /
Good to "see" you too. I guess it's too early in the morning here, I totally missed the sarc :)
RE the primary, I'm not convinced that those self-appointed "republican thinkers" swayed the primary voters -- I think it was mostly due to the overwhelming negative ads against Santorum, and the moderates banding together in support of Romney while conservatives were divided.
If he meant Bill C., then he's obviously forgotten that the architect of that wasn't Bill but Newt.
If he meant Hillary C., then - sorry - I think he doesn't know what the h*ll he's talking about. Madame C. is BHO lite. He should've figured that out by now.
I don't even think she is BHO lite. I think she is BHO in drag. She is envious he did what she wanted to do.
"BHO in drag" - omigawd, that is an image to scare the pants off the unsuspecting, teeheehee!
After that public love-in, and now that she's free, I wonder if there's going to be a bit of Clinton revenge in the offing.
She will act as an ambassador to the press to keep herself in the spotlight for 2016.
Just watch. She will gratuitously defend Obama and Dems.
Mum, I'll go one further if I may, if it's Hillary, he hasn't got a freaking clue, because she IS dear leader in a pant suit. Hillary care... it takes a village...collective... we'll take your money for the greater good... small arms treaty... oy vey.
And wasn't her thesis on Alinsky, or something like that?
In any case, Paul Ryan is fast losing his 'golden boy' image with the voters, there are others who are really standing up for conservative values, like Louie Gohmert, Steve Stockman, and of course Trey Gowdy.
Paul Ryan is now a GOPe critter. Sad.
Heh! In idle moments I sometimes look at houses to buy, on real estate websites. Great fun. There are some nice ones in Trey Gowdy's district ... but I'd have to win the lottery first.
The comment should be, if we had a Gingrich-like Speaker of the House Obama would have caved and moved to the center in 2010 after the GOP won the House
Don't think Obama could ever move to the center, but at least Republican's wouldn't act like the French and just surrender. We need a Gingrich-like leader again.
Having ANY Clinton in office is a BAD thing.
What's Paul smoking these days? The Demoncrats are drunk with power and excess... they don't want to be nice or fair or to compromise. Evil and darkness cannot coexist with good and the light... and vice versa. The only way the Demoncrats will compromise is when they lose the Senate the the Presidency and the right keeps the House...
Oh, and in keeping with my warranted condemntation... the Democraps will be truly humbled when we expose the corrupt MSM and defang that monster too.
I posted on conservatives4palin that it is funny how Obama basically said the same thing the Morning Joe dude did about Fox News and Limbaugh and then Paul Ryan shills for Hillary Clinton/Bill Clinton (I guess they are one and the same now) while Obama shills for Hillary on 60 Minutes!
NO PRESIDENT EVER has the atrocious ruinous record that Obama has.
11,000 NEW FOOD STAMP RECIPIENTS PER WEEK.
300,000 UNEMPLOYMENT APPLICATIONS PER WEEK (that's a good week - most weeks are 350+K)
INSANE and irrational foreign and domestic policy.
DRASTICALLY increased military casualties.
IRRESPONSIBLE increase in spending.
IRRESPONSIBLE increase in debt.
CORRUPTION, PARTISANSHIP, CRONYISM, RACISM...
It's really just a whirlwind of mush and disappointment coming at us every day now. One hardly knows how to deal with anymore.
I think he is right in the sense that Obama is a rigid ideologue who subscribes to a fatally flawed ideology. Clinton was many things, mostly bad, including an opportunist, but not a rigid ideologue. Or as Art Laffer put it, he loves principled Conservatives and unprincipled Liberals.
From a moral perspective Bill certainly has some issues, but from a policy perspective he is better than either of the last two presidents.
edit: Granted low standard
Oh really? Tell me one "conservative" legislation passed during the Bush presidency with both houses of congress?
For Clinton Ill put up a balanced budget + welfare reform. You can make an argument that it was Newt and not Clinton, but why couldn't Bush do anything like that while he had congress?
Listen to Thomas Sowell? He has the same opinions of the Clinton's and I think he is right.
We were better off during the Clinton years because the Republicans in Congress had a spine and were able to successfully combat Clinton's liberal agenda. Bush, as President and leader of the Republican Party moved the whole party left. It wasn't Clinton's policies. Clinton really didn't seem to have any core principles. He was a leftist, but he was more interested in himself than any kind of policy agenda. His complete lack of character was in some ways a blessing in disguise.
Exactly, which is why he has supported Bonehead in the endless compromises with their own positions before they even negotiate. This is a loser's attitude!
I agree that both parties got us into this mess, but I don't see either one giving a crap enough to get us out. No budget for how long now? 3 years and counting? When they run out of other people's money, they vote to raise the debt ceiling yet again.
Clinton (either one) is a disaster and we don't need any more liars in the White House. Slick brought shame on the office of the Presidency, and Hillary is just as bad. I'm sick of these people.
That is a pitiful thing- which I'm reminded of with my own 12 year old and his homeschooled friends when they say something about politics that most older folks wouldn't have a clue about.
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