Sarah Palin really liked this debate giving kudos to both Newt, for bringing up the massive waste in government, and Bachmann for bringing up the Merck/Gardasil issue with Perry. Of course she made sure to point out that we need more than just words, that we need proven records to back up their statements. She even points that when she was Governor of Alaska and she saw the Gardasil moves that Perry was making in Texas, that she told her Health and Human services department that Alaska wasn’t going to mandate vaccinations for their teenage daughters. And she even mentions that her record of doing that was in those emails that the media poured through just a few months ago:




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Richard McCreedy
Richard McCreedy

Wait, wait? Is this Palin saying Bachmann did something well? But, I could have absolutely sworn Bachmann was just a Rove plant whose purpose was to sink Palin. I know this because the Palinistas were telling me so.

BTW, I don't think crony capitalism means what she thinks it means. News flash for everyone out there: the most common place for a former politican or his/her staff to end up working after their political career is......as lobbyists. It's the current nature of the beast, and if having a former staffer work as lobbyist is crony capitalism, then I can almost promise every single politican will be or has been a crony capitalist at some point.

Cheryl Fallon
Cheryl Fallon

Actually the government CAN create jobs it just doesn't make a profit and therefore whatever jobs the government creates means it will be "we the people" that will be paying for these jobs. It is necessary to keep the government small and focused so it doesn't drain the American worker of their hard earned money.

If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare… The powers of Congress would subvert the very foundation, the very nature of the limited government established by the people of America. Alexander Hamilton

Cheryl Fallon
Cheryl Fallon

Actually the government CAN create jobs it just doesn't make a profit and therefore whatever jobs the government creates means it will be "we the people" that will be paying for these jobs. It is necessary to keep the government small and focused so it doesn't drain the American worker of their hard earned money.

If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare… The powers of Congress would subvert the very foundation, the very nature of the limited government established by the people of America. Alexander Hamilton

Dodoforever Canspell
Dodoforever Canspell

A lot of Palinistas are getting tired and frustrated, including moi. But then, we all know that good things come to those who have the patience to wait and watch.

Does anyone have the exact date by which she HAS TO FILE her nomination? I

thought it was by the 3rd week of Oct but the date might be even further than that in certain circumstances. If so, Palin is sure to take advantage of those "certain circumstances" because the later she gets in the boxing ring the better for her and she knows it. Fighting the lefty media should not distract her from her main focus once she throws in her guantlet and the less time given to those lefty devils to tear into her the better it will be.

So, let's all have patience while biting our nails to the stump and take it like true Palinistas.

Professor Why
Professor Why

I never said that I felt like a mouse either. I just stated that your analogy was a poor one, and used your own terminology to help illustrate my point. Also, I'm glad that you aren't tired, more power to ya. But I just ask that you don't be dismissive of those of us who are starting to grow weary of the perceived teasing that's occurring here. If Gov. Palin isn't careful, she runs a risk of turning off a good percentage of us who would support her... that's all I'm saying.

Professor Why
Professor Why

I know when past candidates have announced. Please don't assume I haven't done my homework on these matters... Also, keep in mind that those dates don't take into account the changes in the modern primary and debate schedules...

Professor Why
Professor Why

"a mouse being toyed with by a playful cat"? The analogy doesn't fit, because we "mice" who are getting tired of the games have the option to tell the "cat" to get bent...

Professor Why
Professor Why

"a mouse being toyed with by a playful cat"? The analogy doesn't fit, because we "mice" who are getting tired of the games have the option to tell the "cat" to get bent...

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

implicated?

After 6 years you have... an implication? REALLY?

Gee, want to go with implications we can do that, but if we aim them at Sarah and her passing Gardasil for her state and then endorsing Perry despite her knowledge of his cronyism while she endorses mccain and makes appointments for people who support abortion... we wont like where we end up now well we?

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

implicated?

After 6 years you have... an implication? REALLY?

Gee, want to go with implications we can do that, but if we aim them at Sarah and her passing Gardasil for her state and then endorsing Perry despite her knowledge of his cronyism while she endorses mccain and makes appointments for people who support abortion... we wont like where we end up now well we?

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

She lied?

She went on Greta and made those statements.

Gee, hope you are right and she is just a liar.

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

Yeah? Like to see you prove instead of accuse, but that would actually require you to do something you appear incapable of. Think for yourself.

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

ooo, that hurts coming from a Liberal shill

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

Why should I?

She obviously did not even bother reading the CDC page on gardasil and HPV nor did she bother reading the EO or do any digging beyond what Bachmann told her about Perry and the ties with Merk.

What the hell are her EMails going to tell me she did not already say? Im taking her at her word.

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

Im lying about sara adding it to alaska?

SHE ADMITTED IT ON GRETA AND ITS ALL OVER ALASKA's STATE WEBSITE.

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

I did research the drug.

Its easy as hell to do since CDC has a lot of detailed information on it.

Makes me sick that NONE of these GOP wannabe candidates going against perry bothered doing anything other than read dirt rag sheets published by liberals to throw mud at perry over it.

Go to CDC yourself and find out.

Word search CDC GARDASIL, takes you straight there, make up your own mind so you arent a sheep following the lead of a pandering mud tossing politician.

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

Yes, i can see where you have your head planted so you hear and see nothing.

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

I did not get any of my information from Perry.

I went to the CDC website and webMD and reached my own conclusions on whether Gardasil was needed or not so I could determine if Perry was involved in a pay to play scheme.

Then I went and found out the only contribution Perry recieved from gardasil is pocket change compared with what other candidates get.

Then I went and looked up the actual executive order on the State Governor's website which gives parents an opt out, which automatically makes a liar of anyone claiming Perry forced kids and parents to get a vaccine.

And then I sat back and watched the LIES on the debate over the issue.

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

I did not get any of my information from Perry.

I went to the CDC website and webMD and reached my own conclusions on whether Gardasil was needed or not so I could determine if Perry was involved in a pay to play scheme.

Then I went and found out the only contribution Perry recieved from gardasil is pocket change compared with what other candidates get.

Then I went and looked up the actual executive order on the State Governor's website which gives parents an opt out, which automatically makes a liar of anyone claiming Perry forced kids and parents to get a vaccine.

And then I sat back and watched the LIES on the debate over the issue.

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

Oh really? So you are saying she did add it to alaska's vaccine program before it passed testing?

How about learning to read period.

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

Oh really? So you are saying she did add it to alaska's vaccine program before it passed testing?

How about learning to read period.

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

You didnt even know his name till i posted it.

Sarah doesnt either.

Im not impressed with your self proclamation of education.

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

If I was going to push Perry I would give you the grocery list of conservative bills and legislation he has pushed through that makes everyone else look like a bunch of kids fighting over the shovel in a sandbox.

Topic at hand is over Palin coming off as a pandering political hack when she apparently had issues with Perry over cronyism... yet later glowed with gushing endorsement comments on how great a conservative he is.

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

If I was going to push Perry I would give you the grocery list of conservative bills and legislation he has pushed through that makes everyone else look like a bunch of kids fighting over the shovel in a sandbox.

Topic at hand is over Palin coming off as a pandering political hack when she apparently had issues with Perry over cronyism... yet later glowed with gushing endorsement comments on how great a conservative he is.

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

I never posted she was not running.

I up until seeing this interview I could care less.

But after what I just saw, she would walk in with egg on her face over what she said.

Im against gardasil!

But yet signed off on my state having it

Im against Perry's cronyism over gardasil!

Yet years later after you knew that, you endorsed his conservatism...

You also endorsed Mccain and appointed a pro abortionist as you left office... how good is your word?

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

Fine, have you stopped and considered exactly what Toomey becoming a lobbyist for merk did to affect anything?

three states, including alaska, have approved Gardasil vaccines.

20 others are in the middle of legislation on it.

And the rest, except the one or two that defeated it, are initiating the legislation on it already.

Australia, where the company is based, has had it mandated for years, so has South Korea and a few other european countries.

IF toomey had anything to do with Texas and Gardasil, it would amount to a rain drop in a hurricane.

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

Fine, have you stopped and considered exactly what Toomey becoming a lobbyist for merk did to affect anything?

three states, including alaska, have approved Gardasil vaccines.

20 others are in the middle of legislation on it.

And the rest, except the one or two that defeated it, are initiating the legislation on it already.

Australia, where the company is based, has had it mandated for years, so has South Korea and a few other european countries.

IF toomey had anything to do with Texas and Gardasil, it would amount to a rain drop in a hurricane.

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

Fine, have you stopped and considered exactly what Toomey becoming a lobbyist for merk did to affect anything?

three states, including alaska, have approved Gardasil vaccines.

20 others are in the middle of legislation on it.

And the rest, except the one or two that defeated it, are initiating the legislation on it already.

Australia, where the company is based, has had it mandated for years, so has South Korea and a few other european countries.

IF toomey had anything to do with Texas and Gardasil, it would amount to a rain drop in a hurricane.

Professor Why
Professor Why

Thanks for the kind words and thoughts... Keep in mind, though, I've got plenty of fight -- I just don't have a candidate I want to back at about 100% yet... But I DO know that Obama must go!

Right now, with the current slate of candidates, I'm looking at Cain and -- surprisingly! -- Newt because of their debate performances... But that's not to say someone won't make a persuasive argument to sway me... And it's still a LOOOOOOONG way to go, a marathon of sorts, so anything can still happen... ;)

Dan C
Dan C

LOL she has been attacked for 3 years om every issue, most of them made up. Have you been asleep for 3 years?

Dan C
Dan C

LOL she has been attacked for 3 years om every issue, most of them made up. Have you been asleep for 3 years?

Dan C
Dan C

Where are the other candidates emails by the way? Lets see what they were up to.

Dan C
Dan C

Where are the other candidates emails by the way? Lets see what they were up to.

GetWhat You Pay For
GetWhat You Pay For

Bachmann scorches Perry on this issue. She calls it a "Government injection", and Mr EMT goes wild about Palin's off debate comment. That tells us all we need to know about Ms. Palin. She makes people's heads explode. The fear is palpable! Get in the fight when you want to Sarah. You have already won!

DrProActive Randy_Gilbert
DrProActive Randy_Gilbert

Boehner must be thrown out of Congress, because it's looking like he is going to cave on the Job's bill.

Professor Why
Professor Why

Once again, SUCH a visceral attack regarding a personal opinion. Stop acting like a Ron Paul supporter.

Also, if you want to avoid my comments, then stop posting replies to them. It's a two-way street, bubba.

Professor Why
Professor Why

"It appears that you don't know anything about how to fight." Wow, got that from me from the posts on this topic, did you now... You're good! No, seriously, you're SO good on that... I mean, being able to figure out that, just based off my statements of wanting Palin to actually get IN the campaign and not PLAY at it as she has been right now means that I don't know a thing about fighting... I know, you must be psychic! Yeah, that's it! Tell me, how many fingers am I holding up? What am I thinking right now?

And where did I say it was just another same-ol' tired election? Ah, yes, I forgot -- you're psychic, you can read my mind on these things, even though I never stated such a thing... Like I said, you're good! What's that, you want me to pick a card and you'll tell me what it is? Oh, okay... Three of clubs? WOW!

In all seriousness, though... Please don't assume this crap about me not knowing about fighting. That's beneath you. As for watching "The Undefeated", I do plan on watching it soon, but I've had other issues going on at the moment (long hospital stay for pancreatitis, lack of a job due to Obamanomics, etc.)... As I said in another post, I think she'd make a good candidate, but I'm growing tired of this game she's playing. My own personal opinion regarding that. Doesn't mean that I don't think she'd do well overall, doesn't mean I don't know about the fighting spirit, and doesn't mean that I think this election isn't for the future of our Republic.

Professor Why
Professor Why

No, as I said, I'm tired of the little tease game she's playing, just as I'd be tired of any other candidate playing this game. Once again, my own personal opinion. Sorry you have a problem with someone having their own opinion on something.

Professor Why
Professor Why

Nah, I'll vote for a candidate I can get as close to 100% behind. If that happens to be Palin (if and when she enters the race), then so be it.

Professor Why
Professor Why

Why the personal attack? Just because I expressed my personal opinion? If you're that emotionally invested in a potential candidate so that you'd have to make such a snide comment to a personal opinion, you need to step back and get some perspective... Or would you rather I compare you to a Ron Paul supporter?

Garym
Garym

Yeah, i'm sure she's REAL bitter. She can walk away from politics right now (which i'm sure you would be bitterly dissappointed) and still have accomplished more than you have in you entire life.

Mark Smith
Mark Smith

People say over and over "Reagan didn't get in until November".

Well, how many Republican debates did he miss? Could it be, geniuses, that there was a much different schedule back then?

David Robertson
David Robertson

Perhaps many of you will disagree on this, but I think Newt is becoming an attractive VP candidate. He is establishment, which hurts him along with his other baggage. However, consider these three points:

1. He was a major player in reforming welfare and balancing the budget in the 90's

2. He would make a terrific advisor on how to navigate through the mess that is Washington...I.e., procedures and legislative gotchas

3. I personally would love to see him reduce Biden to the fetal position sucking his thumb in a debate.

For the record, I still want to see Palin/Rubio bumper stickers next year.

Mr. EMT
Mr. EMT

Toomey was gone by 2004

Texas was not considering Gardasil till 2006

What Perry got out of it was 5000 bucks.

WOW talk about CORRUPPTION ~_~

My only question is how the hell did anyone notice the pocket change in PErry's war chest?

That must have been like looking down at your feet and finding a penny and debating on whether or not its worth the effort to pick it up.

I would love for Perry to explain.

But obviously he has been coached or believes that being the martyr for conservatives who think excluding portions of the public from access to basic preventive medicine is what our founding fathers wanted.

I say this to all you "conservatives"

You who buy that are full of it. There is not a single founding father who would not have shelled out the money out of their own pocket for their neighbors to get a shot that would keep them from falling victim to a debilitating and deadly disease which will cost the community a hell of a lot more to treat or cure.

Joshua Saunders
Joshua Saunders

Out of their own pocket, maybe. But not out of others pockets through the government. It is a fully preventable disease without the vaccine, and it is potentially deadly to those that are allergic to it. Opting out is not easy, and when it is available, its not clear that it is available. My wife almost died from one of these "life-saving drugs" when she was a kid. They had to give it to her in spite of the fact they knew she was allergic to it.

Liz Theiss
Liz Theiss

To me the real crony capitalism is taking a blind eye to the open borders mess. Perry has been in control of a border state for close to a decade, his neighboring states and even Massachusetts enacted offense play against illegal immigration.He is largely financed by cronies with a vested interest in cheap labor while our young men are losing body parts in Afnamistan. THIS IS THE ULTIMATE CORRUPTION!