SO - how many democrats and Obama operatives voted in these primaries in order to shape the outcome?
This is sickening.
So far, the results with 78.8% in, Romney only has a 5% lead not the 10% that exit polls seem to deem. However, the 22% left are in areas surrounding Milwaukee.
Anyway, if Romney is the nominee, I thought about what the "October Surprise" would be as a interview of Romney with MSM. It can be found at http://ponderingpuritan.blogspot.com/2012/04/october-surprise.html
I hope I am not "breaking" the rules here, trs. If so, please feel free to delete this post and accept my apologies.
Here is a startling conclusion, though. Almost all of Santorum's victories (8) are red states. Most of Romney's victories are in blue states and in the small districts that do not vote in the general election. It is critical that people wait for May when the majority of the states are conservative. The Santorum/Newt numbers will swell to where Romney's lead becomes much less significant.
I know that I need to keep my perspective, and that is keeping my eyes on Jesus, but I am weeping for this nation right now. How the people who were born and raised here be so blind, and ignorant is beyond me. I am not that smart! HOW can they do this to themselves AGAIN?! If mittens gets it, America is finished. At least until I join up with sDee and others, but even then, I fear it's too late. America has been the best, most incredible nation on the face of the planet, and I am grateful to God for every minute I have spent here, and was able to have the dream if even for a few years. What the elites on both sides have done to "we the people" is an evil travesty. They have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams with the past 3 years of dictatorship- an occupant of the White House who does what he and his masters want, without a peep from the establishment on the "right" side. It'd be nothing more than a coup if it weren't for the fact that the sheeple fell for it with McLame, and have done the same damned thing this time.
You beautifully describe the way I feel. We are reaping what was sown almost a century ago, when our grandparents and great grandparents voted for constitution-hating leaders like Wilson and FD Roosevelt. Did they realize that they were selling their grandchildren into slavery, by instituting progressive programs that could never be paid for? They were lazy, and we were lazy about protecting our liberties. We let government grow and encroach on our rights. It's going to be a long, hard fight to beat it back, but we will if we are relentless. 'Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.' [Thomas Paine]
The country could be finished if OBAMA gets another term, NOT if Romney becomes President! The country is coming out from a horrible 4 year extreme with Obama-Romney IS more moderate but moderation can be good especially when there has been such extremes. Did you really think the pendulum was going to swing all the way RIGHT? The majority of the country isn't there!
Cheryl, I'm not responding in order to argue or try to be disrespectful to you or anyone else here- but I know the country would never swing back all the way to the right, I knew that when so many people spewed such hatred at Sarah Palin when McCain chose her to balance out his own ticket. I knew it when people said they were voting for dear leader because he'd give them free stuff or because they wanted to show how unracist they were by voting for a "historical" black man. I knew it when they ran Herman Cain out of the race, mocked Rick Perry and treated Michelle Bachmann with contempt.
My first pick has never been Santorum, but out of those left, he is the one whose values and principals most mesh with my own. He is not the most Conservative guy in the Republican party- so no, I didn't think he was far enough for the pendulum to swing to, but closer than any of the others.
Romney is so much like dear leader, that there is not much difference at all between the two. I have read and studied what his record has been and what he had done in Mass, is basically the same darned thing dear leader is trying to do to the rest of the nation. And I'm not just talking about government health "care" either.
Mittens has been in this and fighting dirty for one reason and that's because he feels that it is "his turn", because he didn't get it last time. He feels entitled to it because he had to give it to McCain last time.
Dear leader has done what he promised to do- energy prices are necessarily sky rocketing, and he had transformed (although not done yet) America into the dreams of his marxist muslim father. He is a disasterous and extremely dangerous puppet who is leading this nation into a marxist/islamic/elitest version of a totalitarian utopia, one in which he has the media in his pocket. He has ties to some extremely powerful and wealthy people whose sole dream is to see America collapse. Do you really think they will allow Romney to win? Does anyone really expect Romney, who lost to McCain, who lost to dear leader to win? Do you think the establishment GOP cares if he does or not? They are all progressives, and while some may not be as marxist as the chief, they do not care what he does as long as they hold on to the power they have. They didn't care the last time, when we had true Godly Conservative people running in elections all over the country yet they backed the good ol' incumbants or a "moderate" who was modelled after themselves. They actually worked AGAINST those who were running and actually had a shot at defeating some of the worst of the liberals! Yes, this country is finished if Romney gets the nomination. He might not be a marxist, and he might not be an "insider" but he knows how the game is played- learned that from his good ol' Saul Alinsky lovin' dad. As for moderate, all I can say, is once upon a time, people who believed in God and guns, who did duty to God, family and country, those who prayed in public in the Name of Jesus- they, we were the mainstream. They, we were the moderates. They, we were the majority. Moderates now are nothing but those who are willing to give up any of their values in the name of compromise, and when you're willing to give up your morality, well, there's nothing left for you to stand for. Gee, reminds me of someone... oh yeah. Romney.
ABC, you have an amazing capacity for expressing in words not only how you feel, but you are able to capture the feelings of so many others. You are blessed in expressing yourself non-offensively and we are blessed in having the privilege of saying...... WOW, that's exactly how I feel!
The only thing I can add is, lets not put our faith in men, our Lord puts men in positions for a purpose, and He isn't finished yet.
Very well said. I know you speak for the true conservatives. I stand on keeping my morals and I'm very tired of people telling us to give into Romeny because the polls are the polls and we can't afford another four of Obama. I don't care, I'm not selling out. The more I'm told to just vote for Romeny because he is not Obama is making me more and more unlikely to vote. Being told what to do is what the left does.
I hear your pain ABC. We have been infected with pragmatism to the extent that principles are regulated to a second tier. Pragmatism has infected the church, the community, and our political system to such an extent that ideals and values are no longer a necessity but more of a punch line.
So do I. As a Canadian, I have no vote but I do have a voice and to see my dear neighbor to the north on life support, caught between keeping Obama or going with Romney, both choices are the worst possible scenario.
Romney can cal himself a "conservative" till the cows come home - he is no better than Obama with his progressive viewpoints.
I will remain as optimistic as possible for a better outcome, will refrain from watching the lame stream media (FOX Included) and pray to God that something positive will happen.
Maryland is one of the most leftist states in the union, Washington DC is big government central, and a majority of Wisconsin voters want to get rid their fine conservative governor, Scott Walker. No one should be surprised that these states went for the most left-leaning candidate.
If 50% of Newt and Santorum supporters stated their refusal to vote for Romney in the general, the establishment would get the message real quick and the RINO would be out.
RINO's and Libs are similar in this; when they fail, it is never because of their faulty line of thinking. The blame is always on somebody else.
Likewise, as with Liberal policy failures, the RINO's believe that it is never their message but the messenger. They did not learn this in 2010, and they will not learn it in 2012. The Wisconsin exit polls indicated that the two endorsement (Ron Johnson & Paul Ryan) was a major factor in how conservatives voted for 6 out of 10 conservatives.
Either a complete takeover of the GOP by conservatives or a third party are the only options.
Have you taken a long hard look at the USA? We are not a far right country-we are indeed more moderate than far left or right, you may not agree but I am just hoping and praying that we aren't more left now. Moderates appeal to more people-and if you appeal to more people than you win and if you win you get to implement your vision for America-I would rather have the businessman Romney than Obama who believes everything should be equal except for him and his family and friends!
An empty suit can be filled with anyone. Well said Toon. Moderates try to please everyone to "get along" but end up pleasing no one.
Look where nominating McCain got us-President Obama. Romney is the new and improved McCain - the scenario is already written; the up and coming star VP candidate has most likely been picked.
A lot of so-called conservatives and moderates/independents will "hold their nose" to vote for Romney and in doing so, will sink the US into four more years of insanity-whether it is Obama that is re-elected or Romney who defeats Obama.
Either scenario is bad;people are now saying "let's concentrate on the Senate and Congress; get conservative candidates in there." How did that work out in 2008? How did that work out in 2010? How's that working out now?
Yup, the definition of insanity is definitely in play here, it was in '08, '10 and seems to be in '12.
Everything in moderation works well for what you eat or drink, but, in politics it's an either/or scenario. "either you elect a true conservative OR, you end up with a pale imitation of one." Romney sure fits that bill.
The moderate John McCain did a great job of picking up all those highly desirable Independents back in 2008, right? He was clearly the least offensive & least right-leaning one in the field, and a war hero at that! Surely he would have been a shoe-in by the establishment's logic. Yes, let's do that again.
What's the definition of insanity? (doing the same thing over & over and expecting a different outcome...)
I think many of us here at the Scoop are just Americans lookin for our country.
Unfortunately, When you choose a man who has no convictions, which is proven by Ol' Mitts ability to take both sides of every issue.
"Moderates appeal to more people-and if you appeal to more people than you win and if you win you get to implement your vision for America" As a moderate the implementation you get will not be what you want, it will be whoever he needs to pay back.
The meaning of the word moderate in political terms is an individual who is not extreme, partisan or radical. Therefore, he will go with flow, and in these times someone who is without strong convictions is without any convictions. Mitt will lose all of his credibility before the elections, Obama and his combined team of media, Marxists, Leftists, and Alinskyites will see to it. Obama is a moderate only in the sense that he sounds reasonable, but he is filled with conviction, which is why we are a dying nation under his presidency. If Romney should by some miracle escape the attacks he will be susceptible to the same puppet masters, not necessarily because he shares their views (maybe?), but because he hasn't any of his own.
Cheryl-you either have to stand for something or fall for nothing. It's all black and white thinking in this situation-no shades of grey here. Moderation gets you nowhere in politics-look at Obama. He is as "far left" as you can get, call a spade a spade, a socialist a socialist. Give him credit for sticking to his policies, bas and divisive as they are. As another poster alluded to, the progressives have been at it for over 100 years and this is the culmination of all of their hard work. I have Glenn Beck to thank for cluing me into all of this and yes, it is happening now.
A moderate ain't gonna cut it here, the candidate who will beat Obama has to stand for something you can call "far right"-I call it right and just.
What's far right about a candidate promoting the family unit, of believing in the sanctity of marriage, of having a strong military, standing by your allies, of patriotism, of loving your country, not apologizing for it? What's far right about believing in free enterprise, capitalism, personal responsibility? If that's far right, then I'm as far right as you can get, as are a lot of other posters here on TRS.
That's what the frustration is, of seeing Romney who, in my opinion, can't articulate or speak out sincerely on anything like this. He's too interested in himself, his agenda, his progressiveness, his liberalism, his moderateness, to do nothing more than pay lip service to these ideals.
Yes, I have taken a good, hard long look at the USA. I should, I'm a Canadian who was raised in a border town, spent a lot of time in the US, have many American friends and unlike some elite Canadians, embrace my neighbour to the south, knowing what a good relationship we have had, up till Obama took office.
We have also fought against this tide of moderates, having lived under liberal rule for over 40 years. We broke free of it; our so-called Conservative government are very moderate by anyone's standards. They are not doing anything to disturb the status quo here, to repeal policies that have created havoc here in Canada. That's what being moderate gets you, a lot of lip service, but no real action.
This will be a Romney presidency and with the precarious situation that the US is in right now, financially, spiritually and politically, I'm afraid his presidency will be fraught with a whole new set of problems. Remember Hope and Change in 2008?
2012 is producing its own version and what you hope for ain't gonna change.
Of the 76 delegates that has been called so far Romney has a clean sweep, winning 76 to 0 for Santorum
Steve's a liberal.
Only a liberal can look at Mitt's left-wing record on social and fiscal issues and continue supporting him.
oh shut up and crawl back into your little hole, we're going to have to listen to that kind of crap blasting at us at all angles non stop all week, (there goes my happy Easter...)spare us at the very least this Conservitive blog for peace from you're kind for goodness sake......
After Santorum looks at the numbers, I'm sure that his Math skills will put him in the lead for tonight. So there is still hope for the delusional
If you think being a conservative in the GOP is frustrating in 2012, just wait until Romneycare takes over the party.
Remember voting for Bush and then having to fight Bush and Rove about Medicare Part D, Amnesty and TARP?
That's what you've got coming in the new and improved GOP with Romneycare at the wheel. Except this time you'll be fighting with him on Cap N Trade, taxes, the Dream Act, liberal judges and government healthcare. Sound good to you? Then by all means, jump on board the Romney bandwagon and enjoy the ride. Me, this is where I get off.
Yup, 'rats filibuster and Mitt (not that it will take much convincing) and the GOP critters go bipartisan.
Then the House and Senate flip back to Dems in the midterm and Romney is feeling more comfortable. Hillary wins the presidency in 2016. Oh the irony that would be. I can't vote ABO for Romney. Anybody but Clinton meme gave us Obama and ABO is giving us Romney which comes full circle back to Clinton. NUTS! I WILL NOT SUBMITT nor be blackmailed! Gridlock is underrated and I trust Romney about as much as Obama on judicial nominations.