***UPDATED WITH POSSIBLE TERMS***

What didn’t happen yesterday is apparently happening today, that Israel and Hamas have agree to terms for a cease-fire. I’ve yet to hear credible evidence that Israel itself has agreed to it, but Egypt has just announced it and everyone is running with it. According to Fox News the cease-fire will begin at 2PM.

Once I get more information I’ll update this post.

UPDATE: Here’s a statement from the White House:

President Obama spoke to Prime Minister Netanyahu today and reiterated his commitment to Israel’s security.

The President made clear that no country can be expected to tolerate rocket attacks against civilians.

The President expressed his appreciation for the Prime Minister’s efforts to work with the new Egyptian government to achieve a sustainable ceasefire and a more durable solution to this problem.

The President commended the Prime Minister for agreeing to the Egyptian ceasefire proposal – which the President recommended the Prime Minster do – while reiterating that Israel maintains the right to defend itself.

The President said that the United States would use the opportunity offered by a ceasefire to intensify efforts to help Israel address its security needs, especially the issue of the smuggling of weapons and explosives into Gaza.

The President said that he was committed to seeking additional funding for Iron Dome and other US-Israel missile defense programs.

I guess the cease-fire is legit. How long do you think it will last?

UPDATE 2: According to the Belfast Telegraph this cease-fire is pretty basic:

One Palestinian official said under its terms Israel would cease all military activity against the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip and Palestinian militants would cease rocket attacks into Israel.

After 24 hours of quiet, Gaza’s border crossings with Israel would be opened further to allow freer movement of goods and people.




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51 comments
Erdnay
Erdnay

It will last long enough for Hamas to replenish their supply of rockets and reload.

Sober_Thinking
Sober_Thinking

Israel... America's people stand WITH you... even if our phoney "leadership" doesn't. We are praying for you! And God is with you!!!

keninil
keninil

Does Israel still get to search "fishing boats" for rockets coming into Gaza? That was explicitly on the list yesterday.

Jasper Silvis
Jasper Silvis

"... Israel and Hamas have agree to terms for a cease-fire."

Israel: Yo, Hamas, stop shooting at us.

Hamas: Ok.

That is just about all the conversation needs to be for a cease fire agreement. I do not understand the thought behind "terms" for a cease-fire.

Oh wait, yes I do....

Hamas: We can shoot you, but if you retaliate, you are breaking our cease-fire agreement.

American MSM: That sounds like reasonable cease-fire terms.

Israel: What the .... ????????

sjmom
sjmom

How long will the cease fire last? Not long enough.

sDee
sDee

The is a hudna

"Hudna has a distinct meaning to Islamic fundamentalists, well-versed in their history: The prophet Mohammad struck a legendary, ten-year hudna with the Quraysh tribe that controlled Mecca in the seventh century. Over the following two years, Mohammad rearmed and took advantage of a minor Quraysh infraction to break the hudna and launch the full conquest of Mecca, the holiest city in Islam.

As for Hamas, they have proven time and again their commitment to a tactical hudna — replenishing their strength during the quiet periods, then returning with increased deadliness. As recently documented by The Washington Institute, Hamas agreed to no less than ten ceasefires in the past ten years, and after every single one returned freshly armed for terror. Hundreds of Israeli citizens have paid for these hudnas with their lives."

Hudna with Hamas

June 23, 2003

http://honestreporting.com/hudna-with-hamas/

Jasper Silvis
Jasper Silvis

That's right. During a cease-fire....

Israel buries their dead and repairs their infrastructure.

Hamas replenishes their weapons.

kong1967
kong1967

That's odd, because there are rockets in being fired right now. Netanyahu needs to stop messing around and wipe these bastards out completely (the militants and Hamas).

tinlizzieowner
tinlizzieowner

'Ceasefire'. In English, that means Hamas is running low in Iran supplied munitions.

kong1967
kong1967

Exactly, and they want to regroup and get ready to start back up again. I don't know why Israel tolerates this and follows with ceasefires. Just wipe them out already.

tinlizzieowner
tinlizzieowner

The Israelis aren't as stupid as we are. There's something going on here we don't know anything about.

kong1967
kong1967

I hear that, which is why I don't want to see Israel negotiate with the Palestinians. Squash them (their ability to wage war).

colliemum
colliemum

Could well be - after all, both Obama and Hillary don't want their careful, 'arab spring - all is well in the M.E.' narrative shown up for the disaster it is, not so soon after the election, and not while the economy in the USA is entering uncharted waters.

tinlizzieowner
tinlizzieowner

Clinton promised Israel something they need, probably something to do with their 'Iron Dome' defense system. We all know that this (so called) cease fire is nothing but a dog and pony show.

tinlizzieowner
tinlizzieowner

As we learned in WW2 with the Japanese, it's very difficult to fight an enemy that considers life cheap. But there's another lesson we learned from the Japanese. To defeat this kind of enemy, you must make it virtually impossible in any way, for them to wage war.

We have been 'negotiating' with Islam for centuries, there will soon come a time where the 'religion of subjugation' will be too powerful to stop.

kong1967
kong1967

There might be something going on, but it's conjecture to say there is.

I love Israel, but in some ways they are smarter than us and in some ways they are not. They're human and do stupid crap like we do. The worst example I can think of is how they will trade a thousand terrorists for one or a few innocent civilians being held captive. I know they deeply care about their citizens, unlike our politicians, but in my view this is really a bad deal. They get an untold number of people killed by allowing terrorists back onto the battlefield.

colliemum
colliemum

I think you may be onto something here.

As I've said above (or below, depending on which direction you're reading): Netanyahu has done what Obama and Hillary desired.

The other side hasn't delivered.

The world is watching, and knows, thanks to the social media, that Hamas has kept on bombing.

So Morsi is shown not to be able to control Hamas, in front of the world - Obama nd Hillary have egg on their faces - and Bibi can, if he so wishes, go and do what he needs to do to secure Israel.

colliemum
colliemum

"Muqata ‏@Muqata

9:18 PM ARGH! Air Raid Siren in Lachish region"

That's 18 minutes into the 'ceasefire' ...

TitaniumEagle
TitaniumEagle

Obama is not committed to maintaining Israel's security. He's committed to maintaining that he's committed to maintaining Israel's security.

Rocco11
Rocco11

Barack is a student of Edward Said, and best friends with Rashid Khalidi. Oh, and need I mention mentored by Frank Marshall Davis, Jeremiah Wright, and Louis Farrakhan.

colliemum
colliemum

"Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu speaks to the press as the Israel-Hamas ceasefire takes effect in the Gaza Strip. He says that he is taking the opportunity to stabilize the situation and bring calm to the region before resorting to use of greater force."

[my bold]

http://www.timesofisrael.com/several-casualties-in-explosion-in-central-tel-aviv/

Well - does this sound like a threat to Hamas to you? It does to me.

Let's hope Hamas heeds the warning - if muslims can use a ceasefire to restock and reload, so can Israel.

Patriot077
Patriot077

From your link, a poll shows 70% of the public did Not want the ceasefire. I hope this doesn't end up backfiring for Bibi. He is the leader Israel needs in this time.

colliemum
colliemum

Same here - Bibi is what Israel needs.

I think, nay, I hope that with the world now tweeting about the already broken ceasefire Bibi will throw the agreement back into Hillary's and Obama's faces.

He's done what they wanted - the other side isn't delivering.

Egg on both Obama and Hillary's faces, and on Morsi's as well.

But I keep praying that there will be an end to this!

colliemum
colliemum

Yep, this seems to be true, I read it on The Times of Israel last evening.

Patriot077
Patriot077

Do you know if Eqypt is the decision maker to determine whether or not the terms of the ceasefire are violated? I heard this statement on the radio just now by a former mayer of a town in Israel. I sure hope that is not true.

colliemum
colliemum

Yes indeed - and I have the feeling Bibi has left the door open for Israel to administer such a trouncing if and when required. More - that he told both Obama and Hillary that that was the case.

Patriot077
Patriot077

I would love to see those two have their noses rubbed in something. I guess egg would do.

I pray for an end to the savagery as well but I put no faith in any agreement that is brokered by the MB, which is on the same page as Hamas, Al Qaeda etal. Heck, they started all the jihadi groups who feel more empowered by the day. Only a complete military trouncing will stop this.

AmericanborninCanada
AmericanborninCanada

Good. Now the brotherhood and hamas can work together to gather more weapons and ammo. Just dandy. I wonder how long this cease fire will last. I wish it would, but I know it won't. God Bless Israel.

Just saw this on huff po. It's actually pretty cool. Good for this kid!http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/20/israeli-teen-creates-color-red-app-warns-hamas-rocket-attacks_n_2168213.html?1353455101&icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl29%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D237043

Jasper Silvis
Jasper Silvis

Enter North Korea: Hey, we have missiles that can reach Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. How many do you want?

colliemum
colliemum

Ceasefire at 9.00 p.m. Israel Time:

Muqata ‏@Muqata

9:02 PM Air Raid Sirens in Merhavim Region

Shortest ceasefire in history - all of two minutes ...

Winston Smith
Winston Smith

Too bad... Israel should level Hamas controlled territories.

John Q. Jones
John Q. Jones

I accidentally posted this in the wrong post... But anyway.. enjoy! LOL I nearly peed my pants laughing!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=271536402969427&set=a.256462944476773.57014.253442898112111&type=1&ref=nf

AmericanborninCanada
AmericanborninCanada

Oh good grief, I'll never be able to watch my favorite movie in the same way ever again! ;-)

John Q. Jones
John Q. Jones

I am extremely impatient about The Hobbit. Since they've turned it into a trilogy, I am REALLY going to be impatient... LOL God love Peter Jackson and crew... Once The Hobbit is over, I can die complete. LOL

AmericanborninCanada
AmericanborninCanada

lol I know what you mean. When I found out Jackson was finally going to do it, I was ecstatic! It'll be well worth the wait I'm sure. :-)

las1
las1

The President said that he was committed to seeking additional funding for Iron Dome and other US-Israel missile defense programs.

That's mighty big of you there Barack!

So let's get this straight... is that an admission that Hamas can still launch "big unarmed pipes" at Israel while Israel has the Obama regime's permission to shoot them down. After all... the Palestinian propaganda mouthpieces in the West keep telling us... these missiles are benign big unarmed steel pipes... at worst just firecrackers. So Obama's support is just to shoot them down?

Where is Barkyboy's undying support for Israel just to go and drain the swam and kill the terrorists. Not so much... I thought so.

John Q. Jones
John Q. Jones

"After 24 hours of quiet, Gaza’s border crossings with Israel would be opened further to allow freer movement of goods and people."

Oh boy! I am certain Israel wouldn't agree to opening their border to allow more suicide bombers better access to their busy markets...What is so basic about that? It's a recipe for DISASTER if you ask me... not that anyone is actually asking me...or anything. Regardless... WHEN hamas breaks the cease fire (which they will), I hope Bibi levels the entire strip and builds a parking lot for planes out of it.

colliemum
colliemum

Hamas must be very confident that their stock of missiles will be replenished by Iran, through Egypt. They are still shelling South Israel as if their missiles grew on trees.

Rshill7
Rshill7

"After 24 hours of quiet, Gaza’s border crossings with Israel would be opened further to allow freer movement of goods and people."

Goods: Arms, bombs, rockets.

People: Suicide bombers.

colliemum
colliemum

I refuse to believe that Hillary and Obama do not know what 'hudna' means. The people who surround them would have told them, surely, on top of which the experience of 2008/09 should still be fresh in some people's minds in Foggy Bottom.

So this serves to break Israel, to make Netanyahu look weak. I wonder what pressure Obama used to make Bibi agree.

I think it is up to the House now to put a stoppage on all aid to Egypt. If they cannot show that they have been honest brokers, and if they cannot show that they are going to pull Hamas' teeth, then no more money. Tough.

Oh - and increase the financial and material support to Israel.

After all, Iran does send missiles and Revolutionary Guards to help Hamas ...

Donald Arey III
Donald Arey III

I'll hold my breath THIS time.

I don't mean too sound harsh because I hope every day that peace is possible. I just know that it isn't.

SineWaveII
SineWaveII

Yep Hamas needs time to acquire more rockets and re-organize. And we are going to pressure Israel into giving it to them, again. This reminds me of how we fight the Taliban in Afghanistan.