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A state Constitution or law can not violate the U. S. Constitution. If the Supreme Court finds that ObamaCare is unconstitutional, RomneyCare is also unconstitutional.
ohhh no (hands over my face) ... this is exactly why Romney turns so many people off.. "well we have to mandate ever child goes to school / gets shots to prevent illness, get car insurance to cover your car." you are feeding into the Democrats playbook by using that argument..
There is a BIG problem with Romney arguing against the Obamacare mandate ONLY on Federal constitutional grounds. It is this: If it WERE constitutional - he'd HAVE NO OTHER REASON TO OPPOSE A MANDATE. Like a sticky little idea called FREEDOM. This should tell you all you need to know about the man.
I don't like the idea of a person being President that doesn't know that a state law can not violate the U. S. Constitution.
DeceptiCONs and Libtards are so tired of having their "Car Insurance" argument destroyed by logic that they plan on mandating everyone purchase a car just to prove their argument.
HOW CAN ANYBODY VOTE FOR THIS DecepitCON? Rush is full of it. It is Romney that needs to run against Obama as a democrat.
Yes but you can opt out of car insurance by not driving. Not to mention operating a motor vehicle is a privilege one must earn by demonstrating competence, so as not endanger anyone around you. Managing your own health care is none of the government's business.
Every time some 'HC mandate' proponent/dolt references car insurance they are accentuating their lying AND arguing against themselves!
Their are 3 tiers of car insurance unlike health insurance (Liability, Comprehensive, Collision). 'Liability' WILL NOT repair your car and is ONLY mandated to protect you from another driver that is essentially brandishing a weapon that can maim, destroy and financially ruin you.
By these 'HC mandate' dolts insurance comparison, there should be a 'liability' HC mandate that only pays out after a person assaults (maims, destroys, financially ruins) someone else after they bash them in the grill.
'Liability' health insurance will NEVER be mandated! As well as, 'Collision' car insurance will NEVER be mandated!
'Liability' car insurance is to financially protect you from other irresponsible people!
Inversely, a HC mandate is designed to bilk money out of responsible and/or healthy but unaware people and only redistribute it to Democrat constituents.
"Driving is a privilege". I am so sick of hearing this. We've given up so much by accepting it. A PRIVILEGE can be withheld or revoked for any reason or no reason at the whim of government officials. To deprive someone of a RIGHT requires due process of law.
I say we have a right to travel, and that means that adults are presumed to be competent to exercise that right unless and until they demonstrate otherwise, and have that right curtailed by due process of law.
This very subject came up when Ed Morrissey was guest-hosting for Roger Hedgecock today. A caller said we couldn't complain about TSA gate-rape because flying is a privilege, not a right, just like driving. That's why agreeing with the common notion that driving is a privilege is so dangerous. Free men don't need a license to exercise their rights.
U R so wrong! If you don't want to make it safe for other travelers, take a train, or walk! U R definitely one I don't want to see driving a car.
You assume that the only way to "make it safe" is to have a license from a governmental authority. With that, they own you.
You assume that the only way to "make it safe" is to have a license from a governmental authority. With that, they own you.
What about states which have buckle up laws, yet motorcyclists have a choice whether to wear a helmet or not. That one kills me (no pun intended). Car vs Motorcycle. Even without a seatbelt, I think car people would win that one. I personally have always worn my belt and made whoever goes with me buckle up too. I've known too many people who lived through horrible accidents because they were buckled, however, why can't people have a choice the same as motorcyclists do? Doesn't make much sense to me- except for the obvious revenue increases for the cities and states where it's mandated. It all comes down to money doesn't it?
RE: helmets. You never had to untangle a first time cyclist, un helmeted. I have. If possible, I would weld a helmet to a cycle. The kid was a neighbor, he was 14. He died DOA.
What about states which have buckle up laws, yet motorcyclists have a choice whether to wear a helmet or not. That one kills me (no pun intended). Car vs Motorcycle. Even without a seatbelt, I think car people would win that one. I personally have always worn my belt and made whoever goes with me buckle up too. I've known too many people who lived through horrible accidents because they were buckled, however, why can't people have a choice the same as motorcyclists do? Doesn't make much sense to me- except for the obvious revenue increases for the cities and states where it's mandated. It all comes down to money doesn't it?
I don't give a rat's you know what, about what he claims on romneycare. The facts are that he created a monstrosity of what amounts to socialized health "care", which people are forced to take whether they want it or not. This is one of the issues I have with States or Federal rights. I am all for individual States rights, but forcing things on the people is not right no matter where. Socialized healthcare doesn't work whether it's federalized or state mandated- it's still socialized. As far as driving goes, that is the stupidest hooey I've ever heard out of this guy. Mittens, give it up. Don't do this to our country, we've got enough with dear leader to worry about. Don't make us worry about you having a chance at the presidential nomination.
I don't give a rat's you know what, about what he claims on romneycare. The facts are that he created a monstrosity of what amounts to socialized health "care", which people are forced to take whether they want it or not. This is one of the issues I have with States or Federal rights. I am all for individual States rights, but forcing things on the people is not right no matter where. Socialized healthcare doesn't work whether it's federalized or state mandated- it's still socialized. As far as driving goes, that is the stupidest hooey I've ever heard out of this guy. Mittens, give it up. Don't do this to our country, we've got enough with dear leader to worry about. Don't make us worry about you having a chance at the presidential nomination.
Congress and municipalities are working to get meters put on private water wells so they can bill for usage in the 'guise of being 'green'. On top of that, you are not allowed to dig a well if City water is available in our area. So much for 'freedom'.
My city mandates that I hace to pay bi-monthly for a garbage can if I use the city water. I have NO choice but to use the city water. Thats 26 to 48 dollars for a stupid trash can. Im so over big gov't mandates. He may be right in a sense about certain mandates.
I guess this is the new thing for Perry and Romney. They excuse horrible policy by just citing states rights and/or 10th amendment. LOL
One thing we know for sure is that the federal gov does not have that authority but the states do have that right if they want to do it and their population wants it. I am not saying Romney is right but he is not unconstitutional.
I've been thinking about these candidates most of today (in my downtime). I think the nitpicking we are seeing in the primaries is deliberate and expected. Gardisil, etc., seem to me to be blown way out of proportion.
However, the health care mandate in Massachusetts is not a small issue. It wasn't the right fit. It is costing the state dearly from what I've read. It was a bad bill that Romney got behind to appear pragmatic to the left who is in the majority in that state. I'm more worried about his tendency to do just that. I think Romney is a chameleon. He is saying what he needs to say to the TEA voters, but he is short on record to prove his actions will follow his rhetoric.
Another thing...I can't get that pit out of my stomach that reminds of the same feeling I got last time the media tried to influence the republican pick. The media wants Romney bad! That's enough for me to not support him in a primary. I'd vote for him and any of the other 7 in a New York minute vs. Obama (even Paul).
Right now, I'm thinking about Newt, Cain, Santorum, and Bachmann. Call me Mr. Underdog, but I like what these four are bringing to the debate. Perry and Romney are already wearing me out.
With all due respect Mitt, I only have to have auto insurance IF I plan to drive on a PUBLIC ROADS. If I own a big ranch and only intend to use my pickup truck on my property to move equipment around, transport hay to my cattle, etc, etc, I don't have to have auto insurance. But with RomneyCare and ObamaCare, the government is forcing me to buy health insurance just because I'm breathing. Just because I own an automobile, nothing compels me to purchase auto insurance until I make the choice to drive on public roads. Mitt's auto insurance comparison is ridiculous.
As I turn to my notes, Volume 2, Chapter 1, page 5, scribbled paragraph 3....
You nailed some of the issues with this comparison, but there is a little more- States mandate car insurance because they protect other people, it's called liability insurance and it's for the protection of others against any reckless behavior the insured individual may engage in or any accident s/he may cause. People are not forced to buy full coverage to insure their own loss.
Also, insurance, by it's definition, is meant to protect against catastrophic loss.....there is little similarity between (mandated or not) auto and health insurance because auto insurance is meant to cover a loss of another party while health insurance (the term) at this point is really more like health care. People have insurance because they assume that it is someone else's responsibility to pay for their personal health care needs (I blame the employer provided care system, but that's a topic for a different time). Car insurance is barely affordable for the less affluent and it varies based on their history or behavior....they also only cover accidents, and for the lower priced plans, damages for the offended party. Health insurance care now has to cover everything any special interest convinces the legislators would be a good idea to force an independent party (private business health insurer) and so costs must rise and become nearly unaffordable.
There is so much stupidity in this country's health care system, and the last people we need pushing the idea that any of this is somehow okay, in order to excuse their own poor political judgement should immediately remove this kind of fairweather conservative from consideration, regardless of how much the media tells us he's awesome.
Is it just me or did he just warn/advise all liberal dominate states to go ahead and recreate obamacare under their state constitutions!?
I dont trust or like any of the candidates each one has a good side but plenty of bad. Very concerned at this point and sorry to say I think we will be under Emperor Obamas regime for another 4(?)yrs!
surely you jest.
There has never been a pure candidate. We need to realize that this is a primary. Primaries are ugly. They pull all the laundry out and wave it around. I frankly can't remember a stronger stable of primary candidates in a while. Think about '08. We had Fred T, Rudy G, McCain, Romney, and Huckabee. Are you kidding me? Who's the purist in that bunch?
We have some solid people in this time.
A great business man in both Romney and Cain (I'll take Cain)
We have an two former Governers in Perry and that other guy (I'll cede that H is a joke)
We have 4 former and current legislators with exemplary records on conservatism and reform. Among them, the author of the welfare reform and leader of the last balanced budget our congresses ever saw.
They all have some fuzz on them, but I am impressed and excited to take it to mr. big ears next year.
Is it just me or did he just warn/advise all liberal dominate states to go ahead and recreate obamacare under their state constitutions!?
I dont trust or like any of the candidates each one has a good side but plenty of bad. Very concerned at this point and sorry to say I think we will be under Emperor Obamas regime for another 4(?)yrs!
Rick Perry gave this guy a pass on this and agreed with him! This is why I want Palin to get in the race. No one is really making Romney uncomfortable with this. He's too comfortable with this position and it's not good, because this guy is a renown, serial flip flopper. Once he's in the White House, he could (likely will) change his tune!
Sarah Palin on the debate stage with him will make him really uncomfortable with this position. I hope she jumps in.
I think Palin is the only one that will rattle Romney. She will send tremors across them all. If she gets in, I think it will be so big that at least 2 others will drop out. (thinking Huntsman and Santorum).
Rick Perry gave this guy a pass on this and agreed with him! This is why I want Palin to get in the race. No one is really making Romney uncomfortable with this. He's too comfortable with this position and it's not good, because this guy is a renown, serial flip flopper. Once he's in the White House, he could (likely will) change his tune!
Sarah Palin on the debate stage with him will make him really uncomfortable with this position. I hope she jumps in.
And he yet again proves he is NOT the candidate for America. Plenty of people get around using public transportation Mitt. So do us all a favor, get out of the race and let the true conservatives battle Obummer.
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