Romney beats Paul to win the Maine Caucuses

Kari George, have no doubt about the ‘linkage.’ Here’s the WaPo link: http://tinyurl.com/78xvnqd

Curious that in this Caucus state, both do very well & at the appropriate time, delegates may be switched over someday in the future in return for? ……..

Here is a good article on Santorum and Opus dei;

http://secularright.org/SR/wordpress/2012/01/08/rick-santorum-opus-dei/

Nothing creepier than Mormonism, by a long, long shot.

Comparison between Mormonism and Christianity – http://irr.org/mit/is-mormonism-christian.html
Common threads between Mohammedanism and Mormonism – Dr. Michael Youseff – http://onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1468930
Symbols in Mormonism – http://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-temple-square-utah/
Dr. Al Mohler’s website always has clear teaching: http://www.albertmohler.com/category/topics/mormonism-topics/

At least Catholics and Protestants don’t have secret rituals or use Islamic, satanic and masonic symbols in their buildings and have never practiced having multiple wives, did not begin their religion with one man’s special revelations from ‘angels’ like Islam and they do not demote Jesus or deny His divinity.

Romney is a pragmatist without peer in this race – he has, so far, been willing to deny or compromise any doctrine, Christian or Mormon, any conservative principle, social, fiscal, ethical and political, for a vote or a dollar.

well 4 now so not too bad

we have fairly unique setup here, 4 full seasons, tons of coastline, tons of woods, areas w/o enough people in 100 sq miles to qualify to be a town, flat and hilly landscapes, and a bunch of retards that elect people like snowe/collins and romney

Thanks for the catch.

Delegates mean everything as far as even getting to a brokered convention. Romney must be stopped from getting 1,144 delegates before the national convention in August. If he gets that many or more, he will get the nomination on the first ballot at the convention.

It is time for all the good readers and contributors of this forum, including Mr. Scoop himself, to realize that Ron Paul’s success in places like Maine is crucial to stopping Romney from getting the nomination on the first ballot, which seems to be a common goal we (almost) all have. It doesn’t matter if you like Dr. Paul or not. He and his campaign are working very hard to secure delegates that in all likelihood would have gone to Romney otherwise.

If you want Newt or Santorum to get the nomination, or you just don’t want Romney to get it, Ron Paul is your friend right now. Any success in taking delegates from Romney should be applauded. Romney would be McCain by now if not for Ron Paul and his supporters. Don’t be fooled by the media’s reports of Romney “winning” in places like Nevada and Maine. Ron Paul has the delegates in place to challenge Romney at the state conventions there.

The actual votes matter in media reporting. The delegates are who chooses the nominee. What does the media report? They report the actual votes, that were tallied in secret by the GOP leadership. I know for a fact that those votes were changed in Nevada, because I knew people caucusing there who kept track. The actual votes are just something that the GOP makes up in the end, and in states like Iowa, they just throw out if it looks too fishy to actually report their changed numbers. Many of these delegates are chosen at the caucus events, and are based on the total number of votes. If Paul doesn’t win the state, but dominates in delegates, you know that there is fraud. The first vote at the national convention only counts to determine if there is a clear winner. If not, then many of the delegates, depending on the state they are from, can vote for whoever. It is possible that many of the delegates will go to the convention representing a certain candidate, knowing that there is no clear winner, just to flip their votes.

If you want to become a politician, being a delegate is a good way to start. You can start by lying as a delegate in an election. Then you can go to the national convention and vote for whoever the GOP establishment wants you to. You can get favoritism and promises from these people for your vote, then go home and take advantage of it to get elected locally. If you sell yourself well, and get really good at lying, you can eventually become a politician on the national stage. Then, someday, you could be liar in chief.

We need honest caucus counts. The process isn’t screwed up, the GOP is. They know that Paul would dominate, so they shut it down. People who actually show up, have to be stifled.

Good morning,TG! Yep, it has been a great weekend. Kinda cold today though for our neck of the woods, 22 degrees now but going up to 40.
Did you catch that awesome speech Palin gave yesterday? What a barnburner! It was so good, my invalid 85 year old mother-in-law was trying to jump up and down! A near impossibility for her!
How are you and Miss Oyl today?

I tend to be a pragmatist first. I believe that Rand is the next best thing to Ron. He seems to have the same deeply held convictions as his father, but I do not know how those convictions will metastasize in the future. Rand doesn’t have the long history of record for as high of a level of trust to be given just yet. If he decides to lead in the liberty movement, it is yet to be seen how well he will do at inspiring and energizing the revolution. I will back him, until he gives me reason not to.

Allen West destroyed his credentials as a liberty minded person in his rendition and support of the NDAA. He is not trustworthy as a conservative man of conviction. He gives good speeches, but I believe that he is a go along to get along guy. This leads to the same place that we have been headed for 100 years. I wouldn’t vote for him any more than I would Gingrich or Romney.

The problem with convictions, and principles that people truly understand an believe in, is that they will not be popular, and they do not allow a person to compromise as the others do. If Paul loses the primary, then I will vote outside of the two parties. If Rand ever ran, and won the nomination, I would likely support him running with a backup Libertarian minded individual.

I believe that we are in the last few years of American freedom and prosperity, and anyone who is within the establishment will change nothing, concerning this problem. Most likely we will get nothing but establishment candidates due to the two party electoral dictatorship.

The current government is partially correct in determining that people who support Ron Paul, returning vets from the wars, and the like, are a threat to government, and possible terrorists. This is because they are among the most likely to reject the new system after a financial collapse. This will mean refusal to register in the new system, which will automatically make them outlaw combatants to the system. A financial collapse will bring a martial law clamp down on society. Therefor government considers those who have more than seven days worth of food to be possible terrorists, as well as people who won’t take vaccinations, are against water fluoridation, GMO foods, pro second amendment, etc, etc. This isn’t just Obama that came up with this stuff.

Knowledge is dangerous to our government. Displaying that knowledge is dangerous to us. This is partially why Ron Paul is considered a hero of the cause. I will stick with it, as long as we have enough freedom to be engaged, but I will compromise no more. When it is over for the US, I will seek to avoid the whole mess as much as possible.