Ron Paul: Terrorism is a vicious crime and it’s our fault

Teresa that's not Cubachi's fault. That's the fault of yours truly. I have already corrected the mistake.

Crimes have motives. This isn't rocket-science and it's not crazy. Just because you recognize a contributing motive doesn't mean you endorse the crime. Seriously.

Ron Paul reminds me of the crazy uncle who, while he's talking, you start thinking, “Wow, this really makes sense. I'm with him!” Then he lets out a string of thought that makes you just want to hide him in the closet. Seriously! I agree with 90-95% that he says, but I could never vote for him for Pres. because that 5-10% is NUTS! Uhhhhh… killing terroists and destroying nations who help said terrorists IS PROTECTING the Constitution you moron!

Hey, Cubachi. I have a few problems with this article. I wasn't sure before, but I see you're not a big fan of nuance. You have to realize that to explain is not to excuse. Ron Paul never says that the US “had 9/11 coming” or that it was a “random” criminal act, neither does he point out our overseas military presence for the purpose of *justifying* the actions of terrorists. He was not trying to defend them, nor was he arguing for the position of “eye for an eye.” By the way, aren't you the one who's arguing for the position that we should retaliate against anyone who attacks us? Does that seem like “eye for an eye logic” to you?

Are you opposed to the idea that we should try to understand the motivations of our enemies? If so, I can't understand why.

Al-Qaeda isn't a country; it's an international terrorist network. I would hope that you'd be able to see that maybe our strategy against it might be different from our strategy against a nation. Do you think we should have “declared war” on Al-Qaeda? Do you know how “declaring war” works?

Finally, I love the parting smear on Paul as “one of the biggest porkers in congress.” If you've listened to him speak on “pork,” you'd understand his *motivations* for earmarking legislation in the way he does. I hope you realize that pork is between 1 and 2% of discretionary spending, and even then, getting rid of it wouldn't affect the amount of money Washington is spending. If you really want to cut spending, earmarks aren't going to be your top priority. That's going to be military and entitlement spending.

Killing people IS a crime against humanity.

Is killing people as an act of terrorism also an act of war? YES…but ALSO A CRIME. Yeesh. Talk about distortion of information…just like the whole “truther” business. The information is distorted to a level where anything that doesn't sound like “The U.S. is right in every way about fighting the war on terror,” might as well be considered TREASONOUS.

Are you kidding me, people? Just because we're against a huge Halliburton contract in the “recovery” of the oil fields in Iraq DOESN'T mean we're FOR THE BAD GUY. C'mon, now.

Here's the thing. I read the article and I remember that debate too. Paul may have been OFF somewhat, but he DIDN'T JUSTIFY the crime. Also…BUSH was ALSO wrong when he told the American people that the terrorists did it because they “hated freedom.” You know WHY I know they're BOTH wrong here?

Bin Laden TOLD US WHY. He said it was our TIES TO ISRAEL that they felt warranted the attack. Do we forget the ACTUAL TAPES?

MY opinion of course is that the videos recorded by Bin Laden were made LONG before the attacks and that the man isn't even alive anymore nor has been for years, but hey…I know that's just “conspiracy theory” nonsense, so I'll just argue AS IF the official story satisfies me.

I'm STILL with Ron Paul and OTHER Libertarians as far as the fight on terrorism BECAUSE we're PERFECTLY CAPABLE of tightening homeland security WITHOUT invasion of privacy and especially WITHOUT PREEMPTIVE ATTACKS OVERSEAS.

So…yeah. I'm STILL voting for Ron Paul AGAIN unless another decent candidate comes out of the woodworks.

If you care enough to do some actual research, Matt…you'll see that legalizing marijuana, taxing it, and regulating it as you would alcohol would HELP THE ECONOMY. Oh…it'd make HEALTHCARE CHEAPER TOO. THERE'S some healthcare reform I can believe in.

But hey…we don't want that DEMON PLANT to RUIN OUR LIVES.

I don't even like the stuff because it makes me a vegetable and I don't like being a veggie, but I recognize a money-making deal when I see it and this stuff was a GREAT cash crop before it was prohibited.

Heck…EVEN HEMP which is NON-SMOKABLE and ONLY MATERIAL is illegal. How much sense does THAT make?

Richard Nixon even tried to get a scientific community to research the plant and give him stats of all the dangers it has, but his committe NOT ONLY found nothing, but found GREAT BENEFITS it had. This didn't keep marijuana from being a SCHEDULE I (meaning can't even be used for medical purposes) where as cocaine, heroin, and PCP are actually considered SCHEDULE II (meaning illegal except in certain medical procedures).

But hey…Ron Paul's a NUT JOB for wanting to legalize such a WONDERFULLY BENEFICIAL PLANT.

Why do people love to misunderstand Paul? Paul has clearly said a million times that if someone attacts the United States (Terrorist) We should declare war and then wipe them out and come home. He just doesn't want to move next door, pay and rebuild their front porches and live there forever playing dodge ball. I am sure most of our soldiers would love to do their job and COME HOME. Our children shouldn't be obligated to rebuild the world over war games that never end. Why wouldn't anyone what to attact us? We send money, food, build new bridges, schools and give them all on the backs of our own children. Wipe them out and come home.

Its either a Crime or an Act of war. According to Ron Paul its a crime. So He is contradicting himself when he says we don't need to be fighting a war and then say Terrorists are committing crimes. Only if we understand the reasons why they are doing this will we be able to stop them ? If not Iraq, It would be Afghanistan. If not Afghanistan, it would be Kuwait. If not Kuwait, it would be Israel. If not Israel,it would be because of their poverty. If not their poverty, it would be our influence. In the end you have to get beyond the thinking of there is a real excuse to justify the barbarity and look at the real reason.

Lets see Western Culture is a threat to their power and if its not destroyed then they will lose. So either we change our culture, pretend they don't exist, become Fortress Isolated America , surrender, or defeat them all and liberate those held in the bondages of fear. Ron Paul seems to want to have the pretend they dont exist and the Fortress Isolated America options. The Enemy is not one man but all of the Islamic Terrorists.

Oh for crying out loud, Ron. You look for motivation in a murder case to find out whodunit and then to be used in the sentencing phase.

No one ever says, he killed the old lady for the inheritance so lets out law inheritance. . well maybe the libs say that; but no sane person.

Let's try this one, he killed the guy for his walking around money so let's outlaw money. Ok, again with the libs.

Anyway you get my point. Ron Paul is wrong on this and libs want to punish the victim.

If Israel didn't exist then there would be just another excuse. It would be our Support of Saudi Arabia by buying their oil or it would because we have trade agreements with Egypt or it would be some other reason which would be an EXCUSE! Stop buying the excuses. Letting American Citizens not involved in the Military be blown up is a Crime Against Humanity but funny we didn't just nuke whole sections of various countries who are supporting, funding, and training Islamic Terrorists. In Fact we gave the Ruler of Iraq 12 years to clean up his act which he didn't do.

Why can it NOT BE BOTH a CRIME AND an ACT OF WAR? Murder is a crime to humanity no matter WHAT the “banner” is behind it.

I've BEEN to Iraq as a U.S. Army soldier. SOME Islamic terrorists are NOT Al-Quada or Taliban. They're just RANDOM EXTREMISTS. Radical Islam extremists are GOING to exist for as long as the Middle East does, so unless you want to TURN IT ALL TO GLASS and SCREW THE INNOCENTS…then we're NOT gonna fight a war on a STATE OF MIND.

Besides that, Paul didn't say “Fortress America” and we Libertarians DON'T mean NOT to do anything should someone attack again. STRIKE BACK OF COURSE. We just happen to have TECHNOLOGY that they DON'T therefore can do this thing QUICKLY and EFFICIENTLY instead of “playing police” for 2 years AFTER we take the guy we CAME IN FOR out of office.

Tell the American people what's going to be the cost of war. If WE WANT to stay over there and “play police,” then WE CAN PAY FOR IT.

This “War on Terror” is the ONLY war in our country's history that we BORROWED money to fight. Every other war before this one was TAXPAYER FUNDED.

I believe in freedom for ALL MANKIND as much as the NEXT true American, but RIGHT NOW….WE CAN'T AFFORD TO LIBERATE people. OUR wargames should SOLELY be going after Al-Quada and Taliban cells and taking them out. THAT is the ONE thing that the Obama administration's APPARENTLY doing RIGHT that Bush's goons COULDN'T…or WOULDN'T.

If you want to say we didn't stay in Iraq AFTER Saddam was taken out of there and dead for 3 years now FOR OIL and to KEEP HALLIBURTON'S CONTRACT…then YOU my friend have NOT been over there and seen the Halliburton takeover that I did.

Maybe you're right. Maybe I misunderstood him in the Presidential debates when he said he would bring the troops home now. Maybe I misunderstood when he said, again in the debates, that if we just left the people alone they wouldn't attack us. Sorry, this is crazy talk. We cannot leave for many reasons, let me name a few:

1 – It will leave a vacuum for evil killers who want you and your family and me and my family dead, to take over.

2 – It will give fodder to the Bin-Ladden camel-screwers in the world to say we are nothing but a paper tiger and will fold like a cheap suit.

3 – With Iran and other evil countries it makes ALL the sense in the world to have a semi-permament presence in a country (other than Israel) who is friendly to us. This is part of protecting our country. And it is VERY consititutional.

Now should Iraq pay us back the money we spent saving them? Yes! Give us free oil for 10 years or something. Should we begin moving out of the politics in Iraq? Maybe. When they are stable enough to house the largest US military base in the world. Sure.

Lets see he votes no on bills then adds a bunch of earmarks to them. Yes yes nothing hypocritical about that. Sorta like the Imaginary guy who discovers his colleagues are plotting to rob a bank and he tells “No don't do it because this would be bad I'm not going to help rob you the bank” but when they get back “I want my share of the loot.”

So…I suppose you're gonna tell me that the tape doesn't exist?

A good reason to ATTEMPT to figure out motivations when it comes to terrorist acts is to try and CATCH THE NEXT ONES.

It's JUST ONE of MANY pieces of the puzzle that interrogators need to put together when they gather intel from a suspect. The more information, the more likely they can find the next guy and STOP HIM before it's too late.

My only point in this portion of the posts is that Ron Paul is NOT a nutcase for wanting to legalize marijuana. The benefits OUTWEIGH what LITTLE consequences there are.

I mean…heck…I saw an “official” Bin Laden tape that was ACTUALLY A BLACK GUY looking NOTHING LIKE HIM right after the attacks, but…whatever. I'm gonna walk away from this too because you would rather just misinterpret what's being said because you don't want to believe that he was the BEST candidate in 2008 and still has potential to be the BEST in 2012.

Okay. You've got me on the Saudi excuse…but then again, you're not going to be able to convince me that the official story was true because there's too many holes in it that were never answered and never will be.

Every single Libertarian who fights so hard for legalizing drugs would actually go out and vote for people who are for limited Government and not just their single pet issue maybe Progressives wouldn't be in power. Instead we hear about CIA plots and Haliburton and evil corruption.

Exist or not isn't the point. The fact that you would trust what he says is telling.

I bet you give money to people downtown that tell you they ran out of gas, don't cha?

Riiiiiiight And that really was Granny's Rumatiz Medicine she got from her still.

Ok, I'll play. Name a motivation that we've learned and how it's helped us stop an attack.

Look. Do I believe the government destroyed the WTC? NO.

Do I really care that much PERSONALLY if pot is legalized? NO. I USED to smoke the stuff and I don't like it. Haven't smoked it in YEARS.

Did I see Haliburton in EVERY single aspect of the Iraqi occupation during the 2 years I was there? YEP.
Do I see this as some sort of conspiracy plot? I DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE, so I'll say NO.

Evil corruption DOES exist and the fact that you believe in “Progressivism” which is ESSENTIALLY ANOTHER NAME for the “global elite,” I know that THIS is YOUR belief as well.

So…now I REALLY WILL walk away this time because I have better things to do than beat a dead horse.

MY APOLOGIES to Mr The Cat for assuming that you supported alcoholism. This would be twice now that I can at least admit I'm wrong on something now. The first one was for you about the Saudi thing, Robert. Sorry.

Ron Paul 2012 is STILL going to be my stance until I see someone BETTER. I MIGHT…or might not. McCain & Obama were the ONLY ones on the ballot in my state and we all know they're BOTH part of the Progressive agenda. So…yeah. I'm gonna leave this alone now. “Two sides of the same coin.”

Try to read more into Paul's ACTUAL beliefs on fighting terror before you go misinterpretting the information presented to you. I remember the debate in that article. ONE OF MANY reasons…as in NOT JUST ONE. I don't believe Paul ever mentioned terror attacks being random in either this 47 second video OR the 2008 debates.

The central point of analysis of Rep. Paul is that the endless continuation of wars being fought by the US all over the world has lead to big government and fiscal and monetary irresponsibility just like many countries in the past who have made the same mistake, ie imperial overstretch. As a libertarian of the Austrian School of economics he views big gov and monetary irresponsibility not as just as an economic problem but also as a social problem. The first long-term commitments abroad were made by Teddy Roosevelt, yes the big progressive Glenn Beck talked about. That is also were bigger goverment began. End the madness that eats away at America's social problem. Defend against terrorists at home, not somewhere in the bushbushjungle where most of them can't be found anyway.

Wow, somehow this discussion is way off topic for the article posted.

Yep yep. I think that said it pretty well.

IF you CAN, Mike. Please provide a link to him ACTUALLY SAYING LITERALLY (or close enough) that if we left the Middle East we'd no longer be attacked. THAT might be enough to make me rethink Paul for Prez. Otherwise, I would have to say it WAS a misunderstanding on your part to think he said that. I watched the debates and I don't remember him saying such a thing.

WE won't get free oil even IF Iraq hands it over because HALIBURTON'S got the contract for THAT.

The key to fighting these guys is to be COVERT. Unless we want to just flatout NUKE THEM ALL (which I wouldn't really have a problem with honestly), then we have to use SMALLER portions of people who can SNEAK their way into the stronghold terror cells.

IF our war was TRULY WITH Iran…then we need to DO THAT INSTEAD. In case you haven't noticed our economic decline, we can ONLY afford ONE war at a time and I honestly believe that the TAXPAYER should fund that war…ya know…like we USED to do with EVERY OTHER war in our country's history.

I just thought of something and this is BASED ON BECK'S WORDS.

We're NOT going to find a PERFECT candidate because there's 300 MILLION of us. HOWEVER…what we need is HONESTY. Ron Paul is as HONEST AS THEY COME.

Now…THAT in mind…he values the Constitution ABOVE everything else. The branches of government are EQUAL according to the Constitution, so he WON'T try to override them the way our CURRENT president's doing.

So…if Congress doesn't agree with him on foreign policy…he WON'T INSIST with signing statements. They'll debate it until some sort of agreement is met.

THAT'S why I want him in office…NOT because he's the PERFECT candidate. He's the ONLY HONEST one who's REMAINED TRUE to his principles THROUGH AND TRUE even through all the media ridicule.

Crazy uncle? Probably, but a CRAZY UNCLE can do a BETTER job than Obama.

A bit out there, but I like that you're thinking for yourself and not taking information for face value. BRAVO!

Out there, perhaps a bit. However, when a war is undeclared and the people of another nation are forced to endure the violence surrounding them even though it is not a direct result of their government, I wonder if we would submit ourselves to the same? That is why the Constitution is clear. Congress is to declare war. Let us declare which countries we are at war with. Or is our policy now to declare war upon individuals?

Amy, with all do respect. Let's talk about the facts. WWII. Our military has been in Germany and Japan since the end of the war. This, as it turns out was has been a very good thing for the world, and more importantly for America. Could Reagan have won the Cold War without that threat? By the way did Germany complain about troops being there? No. (except the lunitic left who we find in every country) By protecting America as our primary objective, we were protecting them also. So no, we can't just leave a place in shambles even after a liberation. In fact you mentioned a war where we did leave, with terrible consequences. WWI. We left Germany in shambles and that left a vaccuum for Hitler to begin to exercise his power.

Regarding our current war, who exactly do we sign a peace agreement with? Bin-Laden? Really, I don't know. We have kill the enemy and support moderating voices within Islam to protect ourselves and our ally Israel. Like germany in the 1940's and 50's this will take a lot of time and effort, but it is the best way keeping us safe.

As a “classical liberal”/modern conservative, myself I wonder what is extra-constitutional about keeping troops within a stones throw away of trouble. Should we shut down our base in Cuba too? What would be the difference between closing Cuba and closing a base in Iraq?

I do not trust Ron Paul.

As someone who's PERSONALLY STUDIED ISLAM, I can tell you right now that the KORAN DOES NOT tell them to kill us. It's NOT their religion.

Yes, there are extremists in the religion, but the religion itself is not the problem involved in terrorism.

I STILL believe it's ridiculous to wage a war on a state of mind because you might as well wage a war on jealousy and a war on dishonesty as well.

If you REALLY wanna do this thing, we SHOULD concentrate on ONE war at a time. Let's FINISH this war with Al-Quada and the Taliban.

Afterwards (unless circumstances force us to react earlier), let's move on to Iran before they decide to expedite the coming of the 12th messiah.

IF we're so inclined later and haven't destroyed our economy and troop resources in the process…let's THEN step in (if we really want) and take care of the extremists in Europe.

Might I also say AGAIN…TAXPAYERS should decide whether or not they want a war. IF WE DO…then WE SHOULD PAY FOR IT. That's been the way of every other war in history, so WHY NOT THIS ONE? $800B we borrowed from China for this one. To me…CHINA OWNING THAT MUCH OF US…seems WORSE than any Jihadist threat. Just MY opinion on it. So…let's PAY FOR OUR OWN WARS, eh.

Now…THAT being said…I HAVE rethought my position on Ron Paul. Thank you for the videos.

I suppose we shall see WHO'S running for office in 2012. Ron Paul is the MOST HONEST candidate I've seen, so if I don't see ANOTHER HONEST one…I'll STILL VOTE FOR HIM…AGAIN because at least if he's got a weak foreign policy, he'll have PLENTY of Republican appointees who'll set him straight ME THINKS. At least HE WON'T use signing statements to trump the other branches like Bush and Obama are doin…as McCain would've as well.

Sorry. I forgot to tell you WHY I hate Haliburton.

I wanna recommend a documentary for you to watch. I DON'T NORMALLY do this and WHEN I do…I'm NOT saying it's “gospel” and that every last bit of this good to go. LOOK INTO the charges this documentary lays out against Haliburton.

It's called Iraq For Sale. Haliburton ISN'T THE ONLY comapany, but it's featured in there. As someone who's SEEN this stuff IN PERSON…I can tell you that MOST OF IT IS true. There's maybe 15% that I would have to look into more to tell you for sure.

I looked into the portion where it talks about the SHEER SIZE of the contract and the rules which were required of them to continue having this sheer amount of money. They basically were FORCED TO MASSIVELY WASTE a lot of it. We borrowed $800B from China for this war and we had these guys….sorry…I'm gonna break my computer if I get any further into this.

WATCH THE DOCUMENTARY! It'll MAKE YOU THINK, if nothing else. I always say RESEARCH THE CLAIMS. I did…and I got PISSED.

Well, what happens when the dollar crashes? Will we maintain that empire then? How?

Also, I was in DC 9/11 and wondered where is our military? I mean, how long does it really take to get some planes in the air with this kind of emergency? Is it possible we are spread too thin around the world?

I don't know, but I just question whether it was the intention of our founders to be in every country running expensive bases and policing the world. I just don't think that was their plan. Part of the problem, I think, is being part of the UN. We need to get out of that and do what we feel is right. We don't need their approval.

Again, what happens when our dollar collapses? We are going to be easy to defeat without a way to finance anything – is China going to come over and collect our land for the billions we owe them? Just wondering how long we can go on like this.

I do trust Ron Paul! And yes, as a conservative, made my dad crazy over it. He would end up losing it with me because I didn't agree with him so you aren't the only one….but unless a stronger leader arises, Ron Paul is the best one I can support at this time because I think EVERYTHING he says is based on his real beliefs – not just what someone wants to hear.

I should add a welcome for the sites new contributor, Cubachi.

I only have a couple of fatal problems with Ron Paul. He ought to be the chairman of the Fed, he'd be great at it and I'd support him there. But he is not presidential and I don't want him and I will vote against him. A lot of his ideas are good, but the President's job is primarily Commander in Chief, and this guy is not that. For that matter nobody in the running is that.

Just wanted to point out that Halliburton is not in the business of production, sale, transportation or refining of oil. They are an oilfield services company hired by oil production companies to prepare the wells for production. They happen to be one of the best companies in the world for doing what they do, and they are probably the only company that does everything that they do. Schlumberger is a competitor, but does not perform all of the services Halliburton does. So Halliburton is an all-in-one service company. But they are not getting the actual oil.

As someone who hasn't done an exhaustive study of Islam, I will defer to your expertise. However, I do know what these people say about their (and my) religion. I know their objectives, and it is clearly anti-American, anti-liberty, and anti-family.

Every war is a war against a state of mind. When we fought WWII, we were fighting an evil idea which was embodied in Hitler and the ideas of Nazi Fascism. When we fought the Cold War, we were fighting an evil idea which was embodied in Lenin and Stalin and the ideas of Communism.

This is why when we defeat an evil dictator like Hitler or Hussein, we stay to help the people because our fight is not with the people. Our fight is to help liberate them because that helps our country become safer.

In fact, I would argue any war that is not, fundamentally, about ideas or a state of mind is NOT A WAR we should fight.

I don't have a problem fighting one front at a time, just we need to be prepared to move if circumstances change. I think this only makes sense.

I'm not sure about your Europe argument. While I don't like the values of Europe, they are not harboring terrorists. If things change, I would change my tactics accordingly.

Of course the American tax-payer should pay the cost of the war. It is part of protecting our republic. This is money well spent. Our monetary issues is not a problem of the military. It is a problem of big government folks who have learned how to buy votes with money. If we took spending down to 2007 levels we would be running a surplus RIGHT NOW! I blame TARP and the Stimulus Bill for us borrowing all this money. (Not to mention the dept. of ed, dept. of ag., all the czars, etc. etc. . . )

I'm very impressed with you Tyler. The fact that you even that you'll re-think Ron Paul is a big deal. I agree 2012 is a long way away, let's see how things play out.

I will look up the video and watch it. But from what you told me, I still stand by the fact that my gripe is ultimately with the government.

By the way, I have no love for large corporations. They tend to be the embodiment of Crony Capitalism. I am a free market guy who believes both in unlimited upside AND unlimited downside. I just think people, too often, use Haliberton as an excuse to get out of Iraq. No, Halliburton surely is not perfect, but I think is part of the solution.

Ultimately, I will hold final judgement until I watch the video.

Uhhhhh…no. I wouldn't hail the Federal Government. The ONE THING they can do is protect our people and the Constitution. Yes, I would like to kill anyone who wants to destroy my family and my country, which, in case you're living in a cave, you know that these animal's objectives is exactly that, to kill you and me and turn the Constitution into a form of the Koran. Yes, kill these ideas and these people off.

First of all, I'm not sure what “empire” you're referring to. You certainly can't be talking about America. We are not an empire. If you'd like to point out how we treat other countries in an imperial way, I'm all ears.

Second, your argument about the dollar collapsing is a complete straw man. If the dollar collapses we all will be in trouble and has NOTHING to do with the military.

While I agree with you that monetary policy and inflation is a real concern, it has nothing to do with protecting our people and our Constitution in a military sense.

I also completely agree with you that we should get out of the UN! It is a corrupt organization that is as anti-American as Syria. I think these bases of operation are an important part of the shield our military provides us so we can watch our tv and drink beer on the weekends with little or no fear. Again I ask, should we close our base in Cuba?

If the dollar collapsed that would be a big problem. But that is a problem of our current admin and congress. Think of this: If we lowered our spending to 2007 levels, we would be running a surplus right now! Let's be diligent in fighting government growth, but let's please we cannot do what Ron Paul supports and pull the troops out now! It just doesn't make any sense.

Actually I should clarify what I meant when I said I don't trust Ron Paul. I actually do think he is extremely honest and trustworthy in that regard. I don't trust him to do the right and necessary things to keep our country safe.

Wow…not to be rude, but you really need to wean off Fox News(and other main stream media). Glen Beck is not a Libertarian (or Constitutionalist) but a neocon(emphasis on 'con'.)Just claiming to be something doesn't make it so.

He was for the bailouts, the hyper-unconstitutional 'Patriot Act', and demonizes true constitutional politicians, etc. Beck claims to admire George Washington, but it is safe to say that George Washington would not admire Glen Beck. George Washington was ardently against preemptive war and empire building.

I pose this question: if we were constantly 'droned' and bombed here in America by our supposed allies would there be a backlash? I say yes. Well that is what is happening in Pakistan right now. Thousands of innocents have died. Now it is looking like Yemen or even Iran will be next. How many war fronts can we handle? At what cost? (lives and dollars) For how long? Will we ultimately be successful in changing their centuries old culture with drones and smart bombs? The fall of the Roman Empire was largely due to maintaining multiple war fronts that drained the treasury to the point of collapse.

Additionally, do we really have a 'War on Terror' when our own borders are essentially open? If a man goes out to the back of his property to confront a trespasser or criminal, does he leave the windows open and doors unlocked, leaving his family vulnerable to attack?

Ron Paul is successful with the young because they see through the BS. They are wiser than the older generation gives them credit for. They reject the lies that main stream media spoon-feeds us. They are the ones fighting and dying on foreign soil. They are the ones who are maimed and its their families who are torn-apart by all this. They (rightly) see Ron Paul as the sane voice with an actual understanding of the TRUE Constitution (and Founders) as applied to foreign policy. The youth have been screwed and placed into bondage (debt) through Republican and Democrat programs and spending policies.

Another thing, your statement that Ron Paul is fiscally responsible and yet one of the biggest porkers around is massively dumb. He is well-known as 'Dr.No' for his Constitutional stands on foolish spending. Did you even do any research before making such a statement…I encourage you to do so in the future.

May God Bless our brave servicemen and women….

If you want to understand the motivate of terrorist listen to them. They have stated for years their motive is to destroy anyone and anything that is not Muslim. How often do they have to tell the world is it either bow to them and join them or die? Ron Paul needs to stop listening to that nutjob alex jones and start facing reality. Reality is there is EVIL in this world and for it to succeed good must do nothing. They brought this fight to us… they are here in the US and becoming bolder by the day. Wake up America the enemy is no longer on our doorstep they are in our home.

Don't forget the EPA. I didn't get a chance to double check his figure, but I believe Glenn Beck actually said that the EPA accounts for about 35% of government funding right now. Heck…just CUTTING THEM DOWN or BETTER YET RIDDING OURSELVES of them would help us out a GREAT deal.

Personally, I have no problem with choosing someone BETTER than Ron Paul. Only problem though…NOBODY BETTER'S showed up yet. Sorry. I'd rather stick with Paul's HONESTY than these big government folks who have stepped up thus far to run for PREZ.

I COULD be wrong, but I HIGHLY DOUBT that Bin Laden's even STILL ALIVE. Someone else is surely running the Al-Quada and Taliban organizations by now.

Keep in mind, I just said Al-Quada and Taliban ARE responsible for flying those airplanes into the buildings. I have NO BEEF with that part of the official story. I DO have my questions, but I've decided to lay them to rest because they were NOT answered in 2001 and will NOT be NOW.

The fact that the media on BOTH sides keep making a huge deal out of this “truther” thing as if these people are ACTUALLY EVIL or something is just MASS DISTORTION or MASS DISTRACTION.

On other words, this attention to “truthers” that's UNNECESSARY just kind of takes your attention away from the LARGER issues such as Obama's EXPANSION OF THE PATRIOT ACT and the FEMA “EMERGENCY” camps.

I do NOT support ANYTHING whether it be truther outroar OR the RIDICULE of the truther movement by the media. Knock it off. Just…knock it off. STOP ADDING FUEL TO THE FIRE…just LET IT BURN OUT already. It WILL if you just stop paying attention to it. It's like the bully who teases you in school. If you KEEP CRYING…he'll KEEP TEASING. If you shrug it off…he'll MOVE ON. Can you dig it?

NO WAY, Drew! Too many people are CONTENT with the mainstream media nonsense they're fed. I mean…SELF EDUCATION and RESEARCH? That's just TOO HARD and requires time away from the hypnotic glow of the television set.

Personally…here's the deal. HISTORY SHOWS that EVERY great government has lasted LESS than 300 years. I DON'T mean the countries themselves. I just mean the GOVERNMENTS. As in one monarchy, dynasty, regime, or whatever…LESS THAN 300 YEARS.

Am I saying that this WILL happen to US NO MATTER WHAT? NO!!

But if we KEEP voting for these big government LIARS…then we're SCREWED.

Just keep that in mind. If I see an HONEST candidate OTHER than Ron Paul…then I MIGHT consider them.

Before you CONDEMN Ron Paul…how many of you people VOTED FOR MCCAIN because he was the “lesser of two evils?” Yeah. That's what I thought.

If you KEEP perpetuating the broken system, then our government will continue to stay broken and keep fallin apart.

As an ex soldier, I respect your opinion…but that made NO SENSE.

The terrorist declaration of war is just that…a declaration.

An attack that kills over 3,000 people…that's MASS MURDER.

There's a DIFFERENCE in these.

YES, it's an ACT OF WAR…but it IS A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY AS WELL.

Now, OBVIOUSLY the terrorists had an agenda when they crashed these planes and though I DON'T agree that it was JUST our meddling in Middle East affairs for decades which brought this on…that IS a REASON….just NOT THE ONLY ONE.

As far as the ideas of having forces ready in bases…I don't believe Paul who's the MOST FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE politician in D.C. right now would DISARM the bases or flat-out leave them. That would COST MORE than just maintaining them and keeping order where there are already bases. Plus…there's NO WAY that Congress would support such a decision and SINCE he IS for the Constitution…he WON'T use signing statements to override them like Bush did and Obama does regularly.

As a MARINE…I'm SURPRISED that you DON'T support the Libertarian idea of GETTIN IN THERE, SNUFFIN OUT THE BAD GUYS, and GETTIN THE F*** OUTTA THERE.

I suppose you PREFER to PIDDLE AROUND like we've done in Iraq for 6 comin up on 7 years AFTER Saddam was taken out of power?

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Amen! I agree wholeheartedly with your post!

Ron Paul never said that the US deserved, invited or is to blame for 9/11.

He said that what the USA does, causes some insane people to do 9/11. It doesn't mean the USA deserved it or did a wrong thing.

Its like this… I fire a union-worker from a job… he comes back and burns the building because he feels resentful that I fired him. Someone suggests that I stop hiring union-workers… Are they saying its my fault my burning got burned down? No, he's just saying, don't mess with crazy folks if you don't have to.

Ron Paul and his loser brigade are turning out to be a big disgrace to the USA.

They are despicable.

It really is amazing how many truther idiots are in this forum. They have been spamming the Web since Medina outed herself as a total creep.

Then when the moron Ron Paul wins a silly vote contest, that has no meaning, at CPAC, the Ron Paul disciples stink up the Internet even more.