Santorum: Lets stop with petty personal attacks!

Santorum brought an end to one of the worst parts of the debate tonight. Romney and Gingrich were assaulting each other over taxes, Fannie/Freddie and what not, and it just didn’t matter and yet they were spending way too much time on it. Finally the voice of sanity came from Santorum:




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  • http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

    Santorum took over this debate and clearly states why all conservatives ought to rally behind him. He is the candidate

    • Anonymous

      The more familiarity with Rick, past his initial rough edges…He would be in a good position to go against Obama, the red states will VOTE for Rick. So the idea that we need a tremendous orator, 50 state plan. Or that Romney’s organization is essential are oversights.

      What we need is to flip states, through dedication. (McCain had little dedication)
      The organization will be there for Rick. He will have the GOP’s backing (and Rick said does anyone think the nomination won’t get money?)

      Also a lot of Rick S will get a lot of evangelical supporters grass roots donations. So it’s not that troublesome.
      Most Importantly — combine the fact that Rick S is the best retail politician of the three . He would have advantage in winning the swing states.

      His only problem is , he hasn’t shown he has any chutzpah, or forcefully communicated his case for viability.

      He has to keep at it like a stonecutter.

      because Rick Santorum can appeal to those middle class, blue collar workers who aren’t going to fall for the Obama and MSM, saying the economy has improved and employment is “up”

      in 7 months……

      Rick won the PA in spite of his hard core social conservatism…. in 4 races. He wiped out in 2006 due to an unpopular war, and Casey, fooling voters that he was his father.

      Santorum can get center-left dems, out of the three on stage.

      He can also get Independents who are immune to demogoguery from both the Left (Obama-Axelrod) and the right.
      Santorum can’t be called dumb, if you see his Q & A. He is a wonk.
      And as illustrated by his homework, on Romneycare’s law.

      He won’t offend Independents, when they will be thinking hard about the economy, and not “religious to anti-religous ” jargon/distraction on the press.

      It’s not like we’re going to need the MTV voters anyway.

      Having said that, that is only hypothetical, as Rick S hasn’t had much traction because people haven’t looked closer at his potential upside and strengths……and people are coalescing around Newt because of the distracting Romney v Newt nonsense.

      “Generic Republican” does well against Obama in polls, and Rick S could actually use that to his advantage.

      The less people (Obam’s cult of personality demographics) pay attention to the race, who aren’t Republicans….the worse it is for Obama.

      If Rick S makes his manufacturing, innovation, bring jobs back over here, as his general election centerpiece.

      As well as “vigilance” on the Foreign Policy front a secondary strength. Tone down his social issues stuff , without apologizing… He can do well in a general election.

      All three, Obama will try to polarize. Newt is the most vulnerable when he becomes alinskied because a lot of what Obama will use might and will be based on his past and truth.

      Where Rick S being attacked through Alinsky tactics is the most identifiable as Christians are a majority; (Obama does not have to keep insisting he’s a Christian, if he didn’t think it affects his electability in this country. )

      • Anonymous

        He just needs to be able to survive long enough to get some money. If the money runs out before his message catches on, he’s done, no matter what.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez

    Best part of the debate for me…

  • Anonymous

    Rick was the (dare I say it?) charismatic one tonight. What a surprise.

  • Anonymous

    After the recent catastrophic NBC debate, it is a relief to see Rick Santorum redirecting the debate. My bet is the moderator would have loved the candidates to go after each other and show America what a divisive party the Republican Party is. Since Palinization has been dubbed the new “hot”, we know better now to debate our candidates, bring to light the President’s failing policies and definitely redirect the moderator.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ricardo-Galvan/100001729378103 Ricardo Galvan

    But yet, he ended the debate with trashing Newt. He constantly attacks other candidates by twisting and distorting their record, but talks very little about his own specific plans beyond the whole “core” issues that everyone already supports. He even today called Newt’s Social security plan a “new entitelemnt”. Newt’s plan is Cain’s plan, which is privatization based on the Chilean model.

    I can’t stand the guy, and can’t figure out why conservatives keep on insisting that Santorum is the “above it all” guy. I’ve been keeping track of Santorum’ BS from the first time he twisted Cain’s 999 plan in the early debates. He’s consistently targeted and attacked anyone who happens to be at the top of the polls. BS like this is going to leave Newt unelectable if he keeps pushing the lies, and if he thinks Romney isn’t going to point out his own progressive record, he’s nuts.

    Burning bridges isn’t going to solve anything, but he’s been the one to do it since day one!

    • Anonymous

      Please, he focuses on Newt’s words and his record.

      Santorum still credits Newt a lot in his time with him. More than I would like.

      He’s one of the only few Congressional colleagues that keeps a balanced amount of respect, and a few criticisms, doesn’t suck up to Newt, but hasn’t really said what Tom Coburn and Peter King have said against him…

      That Santorum doesn’t pander to Newt voters, by comparing conservative issues with Newt’s record/inconsistencies “moon colonies” etc. is lost over the heads of Newt fans.

      They keep calling him a spoiler for no reason. When there is assumption to go around, and they built up this false idea that Newt is the only one that is viable.

      WHILE contradicting their second comments that a “dog can beat Obama, so it doesn’t matter who we put up” in defense against the Mitt Romney guys arguing that Mitt is the most electable.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ricardo-Galvan/100001729378103 Ricardo Galvan

        That’s not true. Santorum constantly twists the words of his opponents or repeats things he’s said in every debate. I gave one example with the Social security lie. Newt’s plan is privitization, not setting up a “new entitlement”. There are many more when it comes to Santorum and his history of trashing the other conservatives in the race. It’s one thing to criticize another opponent, maybe in the way Perry or Cain have handled it, but it’s another thing to go about it in a compulsive way looking for something to disagree with. That’s why Santorum ends up lying about the other individual’s position since his primary focus is to be contrary in order to get attention. Santorum gets like this whenever he is desperate. The only time he calmed down was after his results in Iowa. After that ended, he returned to the bottom feeding.

    • Anonymous

      And yet, he could actually be the last man standing. Guess you’ll have to abstain from voting in the GOP.

      I appreciate that you don’t like Santorum… after your 100 posts of slamming him… I think we get it. But you’re not being very objective here (but who is anymore?) and slamming Rick isn’t going to convince me I’m wrong for backing him.

      To me, you’ve become an unreadable contributer. Sorry m8, I can’t read your hate anymore.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ricardo-Galvan/100001729378103 Ricardo Galvan

        It’s not “hate”. It’s recognition that this guy is no good, and that he and the rest of the GOP have helped cannibalize all of our leaders to the point that they’re the “last ones standing”. To say anything else is to ignore the history of these debates and these campaigns. And what’s funny about this is that Santorum will not receive any mercy from Romney when the Newt’s the next turkey on the chopping block… and neither will Romney when he is the nominee.

        This is a farce of a nomination process. A total nightmare and an embarrassment. Conservative “leaders” have lost their minds. Conservative “followers” consistently change with the winds. No one analyzes the candidates searching for anything of real value. No one remembers what happened yesterday. The sooner this farce ends, the better, but I certainly have lost faith in the conservative “movement” and its leaders.

        It’s possible God has decided to keep us on a path to decline, and for that reason men have been blinded in the way they have, to insure that no good man becomes a leader.

        • Anonymous

          Good post. I stand corrected about the hate… my bad. But you sure don’t like him. :)

          None of these candidates is without spot. I’ve supported Santorum for months because I like who he is and most of what he’s done and stands for. I like Newt as a close 2nd right now. But none of these candidates really does it for me. I’m sick of voting for the “lesser evil”. I agree with you and am angry to be stuck with “the last man standing”. But Maobama has to lose… and maybe one of these placeholders will do it. I’ll vote for anyone but Maobama.

          You’ve put your finger on my deepest concern. I fear that God is no longer shedding his grace on America (persecuting Christianity, rampant abortion, turning from God, etc.). America is not mentioned in the Revelation (in the bible) – but I believe Russia and or China is (the bear in the north). Israel stands alone in the end and only God comes to their aid. That is why now, more than ever before, I feel that His return is close at hand. The enemies of Israel are encircling that great nation. We are falling in to ruin and cutting our military… stupid stupid stupid…

  • http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

    Newt gave him that “atta boy!” head nod there. It was well said, and from having the non stop ads all day from those two driving me insane- I was SO clapping when he said that!

  • Anonymous

    I’d like to support ya Rick, but I can’t. Flip Rominee’s offered me money:

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/26/floridian-claims-he-likes-newt-but-paid-to-campaign-for-romney-video/

    So, I’ll publicly support Flip, but i’ll vote for ya ;}

    • http://twitter.com/metro_con metro_con

      Interesting video, but the guy who recorded must not get around much. People are paid all the time to campaign, especially on the Democrat side.

  • Nicholas Crowder

    Thank you Rick! I wish that all the candidates could have agreed on this several months ago.

  • Anonymous

    That was a good moment…..

    Sad that Rick isn’t making this race wide open… Even Newt nod his head, everyone’s getting carried away between proving how bad Romney and Gingrich are……

    Newt may be a hit with the conservative base and talk radio as it stands now, where they have created this monolithic Boogey man called the GOP E

    even though Coulter, Drudge, etc. and increasing amount of many Republicans have an opinion all around…..the seeming case that Newt the only one “viable” is counter-intuitive…..is the folly of knee jerk elections, taht give us McCain, Romney battles etc. of 2008. Where Talk Radio put all their eggs in Romney’s basket.

    And Rick defended both Newt ‘s Freddy stuff, and Romney’s wealth……

    The more familiarity with Rick, past his initial rough edges…He would be in a good position to go against Obama, the red states will VOTE for Rick.

    Santorum just needs a the GOP’s backing, and combine that that Rick S is the best retail politician of the three . He would have advantage in winning the swing states.

    because Rick Santorum can appeal to those middle class, blue collar workers who aren’t going to fall for the Obama and MSM, saying the economy has improved and employment is “up”

    in 7 months……

    Rick won the PA in spite of his hard core social conservatism…. in 4 races. He wiped out in 2006 due to an unpopular war, and Casey, fooling voters that he was his father.

    Santorum can get center-left dems, out of the three on stage.

    • Anonymous

      Really? Use Ann Coulter as your example? Let’s see what Ann has to say. ‘I hate Romney. If he is nominated, we lose.’ Or was it ‘I love Romney. If he is not nominated we lose.’ Great supporter, there.

      There’s a difference between changing your mind and not knowing the difference between ‘love’ and ‘hate’.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JT6RK4NQME54FA3FVYTTHLTRTQ Southnsoul

    And yet, Santorum hypocritically keeps on attacking… for the record, Romney rejected Newt’s call tonight to keep the debate about the issues.

  • Anonymous

    Good to see Santorum taking COMMAND of the debate for a change. Get ‘em, Rick!

  • http://twitter.com/metro_con metro_con

    Ugh. I have this sick feeling that Romney is going to win Florida, and the coronation will begin anew.

    • http://twitter.com/ozziecastillo Ozzie

      I only caught portions of the debate, but I got the same feeling. I don’t trust the crowd, however, in such a controlled environment.

      Conservatives are split between Santorum and Gingrich, and that may make the biggest splash in the pool. Both of them are conservative based, so the advantage Newt may have had could be split between both of them rather than having won votes from the Romney camp.

    • Anonymous

      I agree

    • Anonymous

      Sadly, I have to agree. Mittens and his cronies had all day to review the recorded talking points of Newt… they were loaded for bear. At the first question, Mittens jumped down Newt’s head in the most violent and desparate manner I’ve ever seen. When he sucker punched Newt on the illegal immigrant comment, Newt was done.

      Romney is an oily car salesman. I’m thrilled Santorum drew blood with the whole romneycare issue. Romney is a cad and if he wins, with the media backing him and the establishment dying for him to win, he may pick the momentum back up and America will lose.

      What I find amazing is that I now support Ron Paul before I’d support Romney… I dramatic change of heart from a couple months ago. Mittens is Maobama lite.

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  • Anonymous

    It annoys me that the accounts I’ve read about Newt getting smacked down by Wolf don’t mention that Newt was reacting to what Santorum had just said. Newt was actually trying to take the high road in light of what Santorum had just said and the audience cheered him for.

    It was Mitt who kept it going. But the spin was already set no matter what Newt did. They do no want him to win. I’m convinced that even if Newt managed to get the nomination they would rather that he lose to Obama.

  • Anonymous

    I think Rick “won” the debate last night but I also think that it was probably one of Romney’s best debates as well. I think people were happy to see him fight back against Newt without sounding unsure about himself.

    Whats frustrating is that people keep saying RS has done the past 3-4 debates yet the votes don’t seem to appear. I hope FL is something like Iowa was for him.

    He truly seems to be the only one (of the top three) that continues to push his policies against Obamas and focus on defeating BO as opposed to argue about who worked for who and where who had money and whatever. I was so glad too see Rick finally stand up to the media and the gripping between Newt and Mitt. Hopefully the people of FL were too.

    The only reason, IMO, that Newt has done sooo well is that he stands up to the media when given dumb questions by them. Everyone loves to see him, or any other conservative for that matter, smash the liberal media when they as questions that the majority of americans think are retarded. He wasn’t given any softballs to smash out of the park by Wolf so he didn’t look as strong as Mitt or Rick.

    My vote is for Santorum, but as was said below I fear that Mitt will win FL and the media will begin to say it’s over and push for Rick at least to get out. Hopefully Newt gets out first and his votes carry over to Rick.

    • Anonymous

      I agree as far as Santorum remains my first pick. I’m mixed about Newt getting out… in fact that may be premature. Newt has been debating very well – but sucking time from Santorum. Newt has been taking it to Romney – but Santorum is the one who made Mittens bleed last night. Both are dubbed conservative – Rick really is. I could go on. If Newt left, I think it would tremendously benefit Santorum’s position and feel he would rise dramatically in the polls.

      In spite of a very bad performance by Newt last night, he remains a close number two in my preferences. Ron Paul is next because Romney MUST NOT get the nomination.

      • Anonymous

        Well said.

        The fact that there have been so many conservative candidates so far has helped Mitt. He gets about 25% of the vote, Paul gets about 15%, and the remaining 60% was divided between Bachmann, Cain, Santorum, Perry, and Newt. That gives each 12%.

        As each of Cain, Bachmann, and Perry dropped, we saw the percentages climb for the other conservative candidates, while Mitt and Paul stayed the same.

        So, in my opinion, any of those candidates that dropped, plus Rick or Newt, would have beat Romney hands down in any primary had they been head to head. We saw it in SC, and Florida should be the same, assuming that the massive media purge of Newt doesn’t can him like it did in Iowa.

        Saying Mitt is the ‘inevitable candidate’, as they like to do, is being disingenuous, as he can only muster the 25%, while the 75% is anti-Romney. And that’s only on the Right. What about the rest? Doesn’t that say something, folks?

        (BTW, in the future, I’ll try to mitigate the usage of such words like disingenuous so that I don’t exacerbate my inevitable brain disfunction)

        • Anonymous

          I wouldn’t have a problem if FL turned out the way Iowa did….Rick would take a serious lead he wins IMO.

  • Maxsteele

    Notice how when Santorum is making his position known Newt is always nodding in agreement but Romney has a scowl on his face. I always imagine that in his head he is saying to himself “Damn, I wish I thought of saying that.” Then you watch the next debate and all of a suddent Romney is saying the same things that the other three candidates said in previous debates that got applause from the crowd.
    Santorum is definitely the moral and ethical standard in this political race, that’s why he will probably lose but should win. But then right after this Newt agreed, and asked the other 3 if they could make a truce and stick to the issues. Then immediately Wolf asked him what he thought of Romney’s investments. Newt then refused to answer the question but then Romney attacked him for not answering the question which forced Newt to get back in the gutter with him. Romney has not ethical or moral standard what so ever. Santorum or Newt PLEASE!

    • Anonymous

      You are spot-on imo. CNN sucks as a debate-hoster… they want to make these guys look as bad as possible. They want to see a scrum… they don’t care about the real issues facing America. And they hate it when candidates attack dear ruler.

      Said it before, I’ll say it again… Romney is a turd. He has been stealing words and ideas and styles from the other candidates. I noticed him first mimicing some of Ron Paul’s sentiments a few debates ago… then for the last debate and especially this one, he WAS Gingrich in what he said and how he said it. I think next debate you’re right, we could see two Santorums. I have utter contempt for Mittens. But I imagine we’ll be stuck with him… which will hurt this country.

      • Anonymous

        Can you imagine when it’s only Mitt and the 0. Mitt will continually be saying what we heard the 0 say the day before. Ya, that will work.

        • Anonymous

          I made that point in another post… great minds…

          • Anonymous

            Thanks. I hope I didn’t steal it from you. Now I’m feeling like Romney (need a shower, need a shower)

            • Anonymous

              Lol! :)

      • Maxsteele

        Well said.

    • cabensg

      The reason Newt nods his head in agreement is because it was his idea to begin with.

      • Anonymous

        Everything could have been Newts idea. He takes credit for all of the good ones and then sleeps with Pelosi on her couch to help him forget the others. At least he was smart enough to do it on her couch so he could get outa there without all the awkwardness.

  • Anonymous

    Is the new page layout off center for anyone else? Also I’m unable to access my profile. This is odd because I was able to yesterday after the new web design first appeared … Do I need to do something or is the scoop having troubles?

  • Anonymous

    Yes, I am not seeing it right either.
    Seems to be a Disqus problem.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks, Rshill7. I’m not too computer savvy so usually figure that I did something or need to do something … :)
    Now I see that the reply feature is also down.

  • Constance

    That was wonderful. Santorum was visibly angered, and he was right to be.

  • Anonymous

    Wow. That was good. It was nice to finally hear something positive about the two men.

  • Anonymous

    Santorum did really well last night.

  • Anonymous

    Rick obviously borrowed a page from Newt’s debate book… I think it worked well. What was really interesting was, as they went to break, you could see Newt looking at Rick with something that to me looked like admiration… as though he was thinking: You’ve grown up young man! I paint a positive picture because Newt was nodding positively and smiling.

    I hate how CNN tried to make Newt and Mittens fight. As a result, they managed to get Newt off his groove and they focused on some of the most insignificant things ever in this campaign, simply to increase the ratings by provoking fights – Jerry Springer style.

    The best thing I can say is that they did spread things around a bit more to the other candidates… giving Santorum and Ron Paul their best debates to date.

  • cabensg

    He only meant the other guys should stop.

  • Anonymous

    Hey Rick nice try. I think Newt beat you to that punch. Maybe Rick will propose legislation on copy cats.

  • http://twitter.com/cookingstormm JaeDee L.

    Newt’s expression is hilarious!