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I hated the answer. Being a team player is what got us in this mess. Instead of making the right decisions they vote on bills they know are bad entirely for political purposes or to make themselves look good in order to garner votes. This put to the forefront that Santorum plays politics as usual.
I haven't dropped my support for him....yet. I'm very close to not even showing up to vote in November because all the candidates stink. None of them will be a good President IMO. Yeah, I know, Obama will be much worse.
after a whole day of hearing how he did i finally got a chance to hear it...
I think its not a good answer........its a great one!!!!
I've watched all 20 debates. Has Romney EVER said he regrets something he might've said or supported in the past? I think this is why people cannot warm up to the guy. It's like he's inhuman. No one goes through life without saying or doing something they regret, especially in politics, unless you're Romney. It's just not real.
I'd rather a Newt or Rick who can own up to mistakes they've made after seeing the outcome of those mistakes. Would it have been better for Rick to stick to his guns like Romney is doing with RomneyCare, despite the fact that it's been a failure in MA in terms of cost and implementation?
Ouch. I think he should have skipped the admission that it was against principle and just said that it was a mistake.
Well, I saw Ron Paul officially "sell out", with his despicable lovefest with Romney. (He literally sat on his hands--instead of challenging the guy who laid the foundation for Obamacare.)
I wonder how much it cost Rove and the other corrupt, establishment RINO's--to get ole Ronnie to ditch his "principles", and join the unelectable Mitt?
All you Paul supporters should be real proud.
he admits going against his belief, he screwed up and owned up to it.
all in all I think its better than trying to defend it.
I think it was just the way things were done during the Bush years. Fiscally, there were very few that voted their principles. Big spending was the norm even on the Republican side of the aisle.
We are at a point, however, where everyone (well those with a logical thought process anyway) realize that big spending and federal oversight is well out of hand and we have to go back to the way the founders envisioned or we will perish as country.
Anyone who crosses Santorum off due to his answer on NCLB is part of the problem. EVERY politician makes mistaks. Santorum was being honest unlike these other clowns who just spin and give out talking points.
How come Mittens hasn't done the same thing with Romneycare instead of defending it (which is much much worse than NCLB)??
Santorum is a decent, honest man, and there are very few in politics. We need people to wake up and appreciate this instead of being dishonest hypocrites.
It takes courage to admit to a mistake. Most politicians will never do it. Rick Santorum continues to earn my respect more each day for his courage as well as his ability to answer a question from his heart rather than from a cheat sheet or a teleprompter.
I agree. When making public a mistake, complete debate aptitude at those moments is not something I expect. On the flip side, I hope he doesn't do that in debate with Obamao. This election, as Rush keeps saying, is about Obamao, not a single silly vote by our nominee.
I 'm a Citizens of Israel, my leader is Netanyahu.
My impression from Senator santorium began when he Appeareds at Beck.
Since then, only reinforced the impression that he is indeed an honest, reliable and have high morals.
He knows how to work in a team and is a wise man (I checked the academic accomplishments .
In short = it has all the qualities to be a leader.
Good luck to you !
Your success is our success.
Heck, at the time ( Jan. 2001) I thought it was a good idea to force schools to a certain clear standard. Problem is it became another wasteful Federal Dictate which didn't accomplish much. The world has changed a great deal since that time.
Santorum isnt a conservative. He is a compassionate conservative. No Child Left Behind is big government. A Unionguy is big government. Spending is big government. The Guy has never on any occasion run a single thing. I would never hire anyone to run anything without them having leadership credentials. What's funny is that Romney is blasted for his record but Santorum gets the pass?
Romney came out swinging in this one, to me he gained the most from this debate. I guess you could say Romney knocked the santorum out of Santorum, ha. Man, this has been quite an interesting primary, the roller coaster ride continues.
Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on one's POV, the guy is honest to a fault. Personally, I could care less. He has enough good points to sway my vote away from Romney and Newt. Reagan wasn't perfect either. But he had a certain je ne sais quois that drew people to him. For Santorum, its his functioning moral compass. Its virtue. So, I'm not moving away from my support of him at all. I don't expect him to win every debate. His lead nationally is still holding strong. He'll have to do alot worse to lose my support.
I've been tired of these debates for some time. We should all know who/what these guys are and where they stand on the issues by now, and any of them should be able to beat the idiot in the WH. The major issues are the very sick economy and the Fool in the WH.
All conservatives should vote for either Santorum or Newt depending on which one is leading in the voter's state: in PA vote for Santorum, in Georgia vote for Newt. As long as they both stay in the race, this is the only good strategy for conservatives to use to combat the RINOS/Mitt.
C'mon guys, let's get serious; Ron Paul - Secretary of Treasury (FED dissolved), Mitt Romney - Dept. of Commerce (Dept. of Energy dissolved), Rick Santorum - Dept of Defense (State Department falls under Defense Department), Alan West for VP and of course Newt Gingrich for President. Problems solved & America becomes even greater than ever...
How Refreshing Would It Be… http://houraney.com/2012/02/how-refreshing-would-it-be/
Admitting to your faults is a good thing but I guarentee you he would never have done so if not asked. So can't give him too much credit.
No problem. Rush will probably take three hours and tell us everything Rick meant to say, maybe he'll even include a few Reagan clips. Personally, I can't wait to hear Rush spin this debate for Santorum.
I am not a fan of debates even though I support Gingrich and he almost always does well. If they would have serious questions about today's problems so the candidates could each give their solutions, that would be great. But it always goes into what so and so did 10, 15 or 20 years ago. Alot of times it doesn't even have anything to do with them being a public servant. Well he said this about you, how would you like to respond? It's Junior High. I think the media just wants them to tear each other down to help Obama look better. Are people that lazy they can't even do a little research, attend some events of all of the candidates and make an informed decision? It seems sitting at home in front of the TV is the easy way out.
No candidate is going to be 100% at every debate. They've all made mistakes-people do that you know. One piece of negative advertising, one unpopular decision, one muddled answer, and their poll numbers drop.
What it all boils down to for me is:
who is the fighter and scrapper who will call Obama out in a general election about all of his failed policies during his term?
who knows Congress, has led there and has proven positive results that effected the entire country?
who is offering up an analysis of the problems the country faces and detailed ideas and solutions to fix them and in an expedient manner?
That is why I am supporting Gingrich.
Santorum approaches the debates as if there really are issues to discuss, positions to defend, and, yes, admissions to be made. That's how real debate works. As an attorney, I would be foolish to stand before a judge or jury and try - as Romney continues to do - to defend an implausible position. Santorum's answer on this question was self-depracating because it should be. He went against his core belief that education should be customized and not mass produced by the federal government - which he pronounced clearly at the end of his statement on the education issue - and voted with the President of his party. So, he confessed his error and gave his audience a reason to be believe him when he said that he would never make that mistake again.
I think it is refreshing for a politician to admit a mistake of having done something against a core belief, explain what that core belief is, and then commit to never doing that again. Santorum's statement last night is far more honest, and to me more convincing, than what I have heard from Romney and Gingrich concerning mistakes they have made as politicians. As I said, Romney is the stubborn politician who will not acknowledge a mistake and who is willing to take his party and his country down because he is too egotistical for self-examination and contrition.
Newt is the politician who believes that "there's no affair that can't be left behind with ease." As one political example, Newt has offered no good explanation in these series of debates for why he was for a government mandate on health insurance and now is against it, other than to say -after 20 years of supporting one - that he simply changed his mind. That is incredulous. Sure, it's the easy way out of the bad affair of big government solutions to people's problems, and it is nice and clean in the setting of these debates, but it is entirely unsatisfactory. A debate, after all, presumes conflicting positions. When those conflicting positions are within the candidate's own record, the candidate should do more than just say, "I changed my mind." He should tell us why he changed, so we can evaluate whether he should be believed.
This is what Santorum did. He had a core belief that the federal government should be removed from public education, he went against that core belief for two reasons, he wanted to support his party's President and he bought into the notion that a broken public education system could be fixed by federally imposed standards. He went against a core belief, and it was a mistake. He admits his mistake, repents by reaffirming his core belief and promises to never make that mstake again.
I believe Santorum because what he just told me was consistent with my own personal experience of having violated a core belief, confessed the error, reprented from the error back to the path of my core belief. I also admire him, because he didn't do the politically expedient thing last night. He didn't offer a cute sound bite. Newt is the king of that and if that is all it takes to win debates, then they are really a waste of time.
I agree with you to an extent. It was honorable to admit to the mistake but why can he be forgiven of past mistakes but not the other guys? Maybe Santorm was being politcally expedient himself. It would be one thing if he had gotten ahead of this but I believe he only would have addressed this when pressed on it. No child left behind was a HUGE mistake. All these guys have serious flaws and their sins should be treated the same.
Why do you allow Santorum repentance but not Gingrich? You think Gingrich won the debate w a cute sound bite? That's just not being honest.
Not a good answer at all. I do think it was an honest one, though. I also believe he genuinely regrets the vote. Perhaps he has learned from this mistake over the last decade and will work to correct it as POTUS.
He fessed up and said he made a mistake and I respect him for being a man. I think this gives me more confidence in Rick myself. He explained his position on government and public education rather well there and I completely agree.
"In this case, you know, I thought testing and finding out how bad the problem was wasn't a bad idea. What was a bad idea was all the money that was put out there and that, in fact, was a huge problem."
So is Santorum claiming he didn't know that "all that money" would be put out there? What exactly did he expect? Did he not read the bill?
Also, the "homeschooling" thing may come back to bite him. Isn't that what all the fuss was about when his residency was questioned? That Santorum was getting money for his kids' educations from Pennsylvania all the while he was living in Virginia?
This was a weak answer and may have more repercussions than he knows.
This is for Mark, re 2/22.1. Your attack on the NJ gov, is close to media attacks on mormonism. Please do not go there. 2. Your assumtion RS's do not know oil, is off. So, FYI, oil production in the USA, has increased during the Ob term. The problem, is the oil is produced by foreign companies, leasing, and the oil is shipped away from the USA, with no revenue to the USA, except to POTUS. POTUS has also, entered into pacts, with foreign oil companies, to futher increase oil dependence on foreign oil. He has also passed legislation to increase the cost of coal, and natural gas. And know this, the USA oil companies are not your friends. They will use any method, to make money, including selling out our country. They have before. The only method that has worked, in the past, is banning foreign control of our oil. Then, watch the oil companies like hawks. I humbly suggest you confer with Rick Perry, on how to deal with, and expose these scams, that occur daily. By the way, oil spills are easy to contain, crude oil burns ferously. A simple flare dropped on a spill, burns all the oil. The oil company will do anything to prevent that, since it is money lost.
Asking Palin would better than Perry. She didn't just talk about it as Perry does. Perry isn't all that he seems to be.
Newt is no different than any of them and it ticks me off that his supporters won't ADMIT it. He hasn't done anything in dacades, but kiss up to Pelosi, do a debate with John Kerry that changed nothing, worked with nutjob Sharpton and fought for DeeDee in NYC!
He was a hero to me in the 90s and was a total dissapointment during the Impeachment. It was just one of many lessons for me with supporting the GOP. I don't trust any of them. They aren't my heroes. Right now, I want a brokered convention to make this party face facts.
I get you. There are others such as Alan West or Marco Rubio I would rather see as our nominee. The problem is that the establishment will be pulling the strings at a brokered convention not the conservatives. I think we will be much better off if Santorum gets the nomination.
By the way I don't like Gingrich either.
I don't see any problem with his answer. It was unhesitatingly truthful--which is a great big plus, all the way around. The justification of the testing regime concept, in addition to the need to cooperate with the party in order to get the party's support for his desired legislation, mitigating his reservations was reasonable.
Also, his portrayal that his having made the recognized and regretted mistake once, serves as a 'prophylactic' of sorts against his ever doing it again in the future is a strong point.
Well he wasn't unhesitatingly truthful. He was hesitant and thrown off. He cracked. Like it or not the only candidate that has kept his cool (relatively) when in the lead is Romney. The rest are like Icarus (wax wings that got too close to the sun).
Rick is a team player and during that time he was supporting the President which is what happens when you are in the same party. Unfortunately, it is what the Democrats did for Obama with Obamacare but No Child Left Behind was nothing like Obamacare. The same thing happens in business when yu are a junior worker and as the junior Senator from Pennsylvania. I got your back Rick. Your compass is going the Right way!
I would say that No Child Left Behind was equally bad as Obama care. We are talking about government having more control than ever over kids education which the government uses to program our children into being liberal and humanists. The children are the future of this country.
It's still so hard with Bush for me. He's been nowhere still when it comes to Conservative causes, but he's still fantastic with supporting our troops.
I agree totally with you. Bush is an honorable man. I think he believes in his causes, and he believed in making sure we didn't get attacked then. BUT...he didn't defend conservatives who were getting kicked in the face during his term. Wanting to protect "the office" of the presidency. It was well intentioned, but misguided. You can be an honorable president, and still protect your party and conservatives. I felt really let down that he didn't stand up for us while Dems came out and said "the war is lost" and all that crap.
It wasn't just the presidency he represented, but all of us who voted for him!
The military industrial complex that Eisenhower warned of.... that one.
I am all for strong defense but why do we put more effort in guarding borders all over the world rather than our own.
There is no military industrial complex. Compared to medicare and social security, it's a small part of the budget. Eisenhower also had a 91% tax rate, he really wasn't that conservative.
Declared war? What's that? Do we know what that is anymore? No, we are "peacekeeping" all over the world everywhere but along Mexican and Canadian borders.
Indeed. Well said Kim. I too am for a strong defense. Our military should be able to counter attack with overwhelming force and fight to win any war that we declare. That being said, why do we have 130 military bases throughout the world and yet, at the same time, our understaffed boarder patrol can't stop Mexican gangs from controlling the vast majority of illegals and illegal drugs coming into this country. Many terrorists of the religion that can not be named are also entering our country illegally from the pourous borders to the south and to the north. Lets move a few thousand troops onto the boarder for a couple years and put an end to this insanity. And lets let the rest of the world pay for their own defense forces.
Ron Paul hasn't done anything in 20 years. He hasn't won anything either, so I don't get the shills for Ron Paul saying anything.
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