This clip from Santorum’s town-hall last night has 2 parts. The first half is Santorum describing how America came to be ‘America’ through hard work and self reliance, which he describes quite well. I loved it. But the second half is my favorite part because that’s where Santorum gets to the real truth-telling that needs to be said. He talks about the ‘elite snobs’, namely the Obama administration, who don’t believe in that America that he described, that they look down their noses at Americans because they don’t believe we can do for ourselves. They don’t believe we can be free. He cites how Obama lied about Paul Ryan’s Medicare plan and also the lies saying it would throw granny off the cliff.

Santorum is saying what needs to be said:




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Sober_Thinking
Sober_Thinking

This was an excellent speech... well-said Rick. :)

Constance
Constance

As Rush frequently says, a conservative doesn't need to be told what to say in a speech. Listen to Romney - he struggles to sound conservative, and when he attempts to take a conservative stand, he clearly is uncomfortable with the words. When I listen to Santorum, I hear a conservative talking, warts and all. I'll take the warts instead of the polished politician. Sure, Santorum has made some boneheaded moves during his political career, but I have no doubts at all that he is a conservative. Good enough for me.

BS61
BS61

Yes1 I love Paul Ryan! Then, I think it was someone from Cato who pointed out that his plan would take 26 years. I don't believe that we have that long and we need for him to talk baseline budget like the Penny Plan guy - Connie Mack.

PVG
PVG

Wow! Love the life expectancy history lesson........WOW!!!

shield1
shield1

Pounding the table with the truth about Americas greatness Santorum is. He says be PROUD to be an American.

I flashed Ronald Reagon here. I've liked him, but I'm beginning to believe he could win this election if he shines on that hill and let the Obamaites reveal their dark hate even more by contrast.

Go RICK!

Tom Camp
Tom Camp

If Santorum can continue to hammer this theme I do believe he will be the next president.

And to think I had him as my number 6 choice just a few months ago.

Randall Pickard
Randall Pickard

He came to Tulsa and the Mabee Center partitions had to be removed. They were expecting 1,000 or so and about 5,000 showed up. Something is going on out there. This guy is smart, honest and tough.

Mtncougar
Mtncougar

We can listen this type of anti-conservative gobblelygook just by turning on the tv. Or going to the movies. Keep trying, liberal. I hope you imagine it's "doing something" so that you keep wasting time and effort on smart conservative sites like these. yawn.

JayGatsby88
JayGatsby88

Lol, smart? Hmm, define smart..... This site I appreciate more for the intimacy (not that kind) and spirited debate, and therefore don't see it as a waste of time. But I thought I made a valid point, I see you disagree.

Mtncougar
Mtncougar

...meant to be a reply to the comment (the conservative smear) of jaygatsby88

JayGatsby88
JayGatsby88

The GOP and the hypocrisy that comes with em... well, it is politics and both sides are guilty of being hypocritical. But why all this yap about how Obama is dividing America??

If anything, I see the Right as dividing America into the elite socialists who dwell in major cities versus the "real Americans" which I guess is everyone except those in an urban environment. Aren't we all American? Now the difference in the "class warfare" dialogue from Obama is that they are factual statements. The amount of Americans who are poor has increased while those at the top have gotten richer. Yet, conservatives feel he's creating class warfare? I see it as acknowledging reality. I take serious offense to not being part of the real America. If real America means dinner at Arby's and weekend trips to Wal Mart, I'll stick with my elitist city, with the professors, dog parks and bike lanes that come with it.

AmericanborninCanada
AmericanborninCanada

I know how they see us, I just wish people who vote for these disgusting liars would realize it and see. Excellent speech Rick!

Han G Thesobs
Han G Thesobs

HAHyAHAHAHAHAHA... Out of 300 million Americans, Santorum is the Best Not Romney they can come up with? 98% of women use birth control and 99.9% of men WANT them to use it. Who's complaining? IDIOTS!

William Kronert
William Kronert

Right Scoop - we get the general idea. We know you are totally in the tank for Santorum BUT could you please try to use a little unbiased presentation of these candidates and start letting the public know some of (yes, that includes Santorum) negatives to these candidates. Is that too much to ask, Right Scoop?

sDee
sDee

TRS has responded to this often. If you have been reading here long enough you would understand. If you haven't, perhaps you could spend more time reading and less jumping to conclusions.

Adam
Adam

Good stuff. And I don't just mean the "elite snobs" part. Everything before that too. I like how he explains in simple terms what Paul Ryan's plan is. No sane person could find anything wrong with that plan when it's described that way. He goes out and does that for the next 8 1/2 months, he'll be the next President.

NCHokie02
NCHokie02

I agree. I was intrigued by his speech I was disappointed when it cut off there. Great Speech.

Chris Leon
Chris Leon

Newt or Santorum is fine with me. No RINO MITT

WildViolet
WildViolet

You do understand it's not President Obama who feel's the right is out of touch and archaic in their thinking..it's the rest of the country! When did it become an elitist idea to use one's God-given brain to understand one cannot dictate morality and it is long past the time to ignore the right's of people other than those with your same beliefs. This is not a country built on narrow doctrines followed by just a few. When we choose a leader, we choose him to represent ALL American's. It is irresponsible and short-sighted to elect someone who would take us back decades instead of moving us successfully into the future. I too am an average American..and I plan to vote OBAMA!

Linky1
Linky1

Dictating morality? The "right?" Uh, seems to me that is is President Obama and his secular henchmen who are doing the same thing to the Catholic church.

WildViolet
WildViolet

There is no one mandating you go against your religious doctrine. If you don't believe in contraception..don't use it. If you don't believe abortions are within your belief system..don't have one. However, there are many people working within the catholic organizations, hospitals..etc.,cafeteria workers, doctors, nurses, cleaning staff, etc. that are not Catholic and their healthcare options should not be based on one faiths doctrine. Medicines used under the label of contraception are used for other health related illnesses and conditions other than birth control. Not to mention, within the current policy agreed upon, it will be the insurance company providing these options rather than the Catholic church. It is more cost efficient for insurance companies to provide these medicines than to pay for pregnancies or other other health issues that may be treated with these medications. It also reduces the number of abortions and the number of unwanted children that also cost our country a great deal. In short, there is no one combating the Catholic church or any other religion. Perhaps if the Catholic church were better watching their parishes for pedophiles, they would not have so much time to worry about what choices people were making concerning their healthcare. Over 98% of Catholic women use some form of birth control in their lives...so in some respects isn't it a moot point? No one is listening to the hierarchy anyway...they understand it is not in anyone's best interest to have more children than one can afford to support.

NCHokie02
NCHokie02

Also sending a link to a pro-obama site to see his accomplishments doesn't really cut it for me. Try finding a non-partisan site or organization that touts Obamas record.

WildViolet
WildViolet

Too complicated...look it up yourself..do your own homework. I'm just suggesting you not believe everything you hear...that you actually take the time to find your own unbiased resources and not depend on Fox news to educate yourself about the issues.

Linky1
Linky1

Sounds like a "copy and paste" from the Media Matters website.

WildViolet
WildViolet

There are just too many of your interpretations of issues that are not correct. Here are a few informative sights you might be interested in reading.

ttp://www.factcheck.org/2011/03/is-obama-to-blame-for-4-gasoline/

http://www.thenervousbreakdown.com/bdesilva/2012/02/first-amendment-confusion-over-the-obama-contraception-rule/

I'm not saying everything Obama has done has worked, but that can certainly be said of any President. I urge you when doing your research online..to consider the source..and look for one that is unbiased. The first one's you see will usually be those of your particular party affiliation. I respect the opinions of other's when I feel they are giving me a credible and accurate argument. There is so much spinning of the facts and pundits who's job it is to sway the facts it does take a curious and interested mind to challenge what you hear and arrive at an intelligent opinion. I understand the basic platforms of Republicans and Democrats are very different..that is what defines our system. But I do find it discouraging to hear people make an argument when it seems they are basing it more on someone else's take than their own. It's a bumpy landscape and as concerned citizens we have to educate ourselves with the best information we can make available to ourselves. I can understand and accept we will not agree on most issues...but atleast we have a responsibility to promote our argument with valid and thoughtful facts, not just repeating opinions of those paid to sway us. Thanks for the time you've spent debating the issues...

NCHokie02
NCHokie02

Because our economy has not moved. Unemployment has not moved. Iran is moving towards getting a nuclear weapon, they challenge us at every point. The debt continues to go up. He fails to cut any entitelment. He continually asks for the debt ceiling to be raised....the same ceiling he said Bush was un-American for for asking for a raise. He doesn't defend federal law in court (DOMA). He got rid of don't ask don't tell. As much as he has done he couldn't get most of what he did want done even when he had a majority of democrats in both houses of congress. Gas prices have gone up 83% under his administration and are still going higher. He did nothing for the oil spill in the gulf except but a moratorium on drilling in the gulf which hurt the gulf region even more. He stopped the keystone pipeline which would help reduce our dependancy on foreign oil. He bailed out the auto industry (I don't agree with Bush bail outs either). He is going against the 1st Amendment with the contraception issue. He is suing AZ for trying to enforce immigration laws and then does nothing about them himself. He is suing SC for trying to get a law that requires a photo ID for voting. We need a photo ID for buying alcohol, driving a car, seeing a rated R movie, buying tobacco, using a credit card....but not for the most important duty that a citizen has...to choose the leadership of the country....nope no need to make sure you are who you are claiming on that one. His DOJ allowed OP Fast and Furious and OP Gun Runner....allowing guns to cross the border into the hands of cartels. Who at what levl thought that was a good idea??? And now they are back-tracking trying to cover their asses. Bowing to foreign dignitaries doesn't garner us respect around the world. He had the most expensive overhaul of healthcare. He federalized student loans. His shovel ready jobs weren't that shovel ready. The govrnment doesn't create jobs. You can't just build a bridge so someone has a temporary job. That doesn't work.

Its not just because of what he has or hasn't done so far its also what he believes. His view of government and the governments role in society. I believe in a smaller less intrusive government. Obama believes that gov't knows best. Obama believes that spending more money will someone fix the economy (Keynsian economics). Nanci Pelosi passed his healthcare bill after saying "We have to pass it to see whats in it." Really??? And you're telling me to do homework?? He says he is a Christian but fights for "rights" for gays. I'm not saying to do anything against them but to try and promote that lifestyle in not defending DOMA is ridiculous and counter to what he says is his faith. Same with abortion. How can he be pro-abortion and claim to be a christian at the same time. His belief that the government knows better than the people and the government can do better than a free-market is why I am against him. You should read "Economics in One Lesson" by Henry Hazlit. It was written in the 40's and revised in the 70's. All lesson still apply and it's not an Obama or democrat bashing book.

WildViolet
WildViolet

How do you arrive at your opinion Obama is not doing a good job if you have no facts to back that up? How do you know what he is or is not accomplishing if you don't research the answers? Your opinion lacks luster when you cannot directly give a reason why you feel the way you do..so I would suggest, yes, as an informed voter and one I would assume would like to see the best for our country as well as for yourself..I would say it is your responsibility to find a non-partisan organization and to embrace as many resources as you can to find out exactly what the facts are before arriving at an opinion and casting your vote.

WildViolet
WildViolet

It's the lingo used by those that watch Fox, the lack of factual information used within their arguments, and the repetitive statements that are the dead giveaway. These day's it takes some time and effort to do your own research and to find the most unbiased resources one can find..as well as reading a multitude of respected political analysts that have nothing to gain by their reporting. It's taking the time to challenge what one hears..and not to assume because you've heard it once..or twice, it is factual. I admit, it takes time and effort..but when one is establishing an opinion..it is best to arrive at it having used one's own intelligence.

NCHokie02
NCHokie02

I didn't say I got all my info from Fox. And I'm not the one saying Obama is doing such a great job so the ownus is not on me to find a non-partisan organization that will give Obama good marks.

Amy
Amy

I always have to laugh when the a liberal just assumes I watch FOX and only FOX for my news. I usually come back with - 'you shouldn't depend on NPR and MSNBC for your only source...'

Linky1
Linky1

We do our homework, Violet and many of us bash FOX News for the Soros-inspired liberal slant it has taken of late and do not depend entirely on one source for news.

WildViolet
WildViolet

I suppose you'd prefer Fox news....

NCHokie02
NCHokie02

I didn't say that. I said a non-partisan organization......can't find one?

NCHokie02
NCHokie02

How would Santorum move us back decades, exactly?

And how is the right exactly "archaic in their thinking"? What philosiphies of the right are "archaic"?

How has Obama moved us sucessfully into the future? If you mean by adding more debt then you're right on in your vote.

Please inform me as to the great things Obama has done for this country to move us into such a great position we are in today?

WildViolet
WildViolet

http://obamaachievements.org/list

Archaic is not believing in contraception..even when used for conditions other than birth control.

Archaic is feeling women should not work outside the home.

Archaic is assuming all American's follow the same religious path.

Archaic is believing other law abiding, tax paying citizens should not have the same right's as every other American.

Archaic is believing only marriage provides the road to happiness, but denying other's that very right.

Archaic is not believing all people deserve good and equal healthcare.

Archaic is not understanding the complicated relationships we must maintain with other countries in order to protect our own.

I could go on..but you get the drift.

Many positive things have occurred with our country since it was first established, as well, as changes that we must acknowledge in order to keep up with the future. To accept the diversity in our country and to represent all American's one must be familiar and comfortable with it. It is impossible to continually look backward while moving forward. We have new problems and they can only be solved by a leader capable of considering every

possible solution from those that are the visionary's of tomorrow.

BS61
BS61

I would again point you to progressive history in America. Progressive Woodrow Wilson re-segregated the military and govt.

Sober_Thinking
Sober_Thinking

Wow... I have to stop reading your rants... you really are from trollville.

I'm done responding to you - I refuse to hear any more of your blathering. Enjoy your dark future. Unless you open your eyes and heart, you are doomed to misery. And Maobama will help usher us towards that end even faster. You're part of the problem.

And reply all you want. When I see your name, I'm deleting your email. You are not hear to learn or contribute... but to lie and agitate. I don't have the patience or time to waste on you any more.

Sober_Thinking
Sober_Thinking

Sorry... you'll gain no traction here with that nonsense... your facts, data, and perspective are unsupportable.

NCHokie02
NCHokie02

I have no problem with Contraception for whatever reason. However the Catholic faith doesn't believe in contraceptio so why should they be forced to pay or supply it? Saying that a majority of Catholic women (not sure where that statistic came from) have used contaception before doesn't make it right in the eyes of their faith. They are at odd with their faith in that matter. Thtats like saying its ok to make the Catholic church that supports Catholic hospitals provide abortions because some Catholic women have had abortions in the past. Just becuase some people don't fully understand their faith or want to comply with it doesn't mean that its ok to force the entire religion to provide somthing the religion doesn't believe in. There is NO lack of contaceptive cover in this country. There was no outcry for contraception in this country before this. This issue is not about contraception it's about control.

They say they provide tax benefits to those comapnies that hire veterans but I argue that that is more for political reasons than any other. There isn't a huge infulx of unemployed veterans wandering our streets. Plus the veterans can always stay in the military. The medical things are fine and I know Michele has gone on a "military families" tour but we haven't seen that much from it. Glad she made some awareness to the families but again not really an issue.

The families have always been allowed to decide if they want the press to be able to view ther loved ones during the dignified transfer at Dover. Obama did nothing with that. Thats the families choice, not the Presidents. And in all honesty if a family doesn't want to be bothered then the 99% of the public who has nothing to do with the war except they see some story on the news at night has no business seeing caskets come home.

I'm not saying that Bush didn't spend a lot of money. But Obama has spent that amount since he has been in office. How has he you say? Look at all your programs and ideas he got passed that you claim are so great. Those things aren't free you know. Someone has to pay for it and it's the taxpayer. Look at the US Debt when Bush left office and look at it now. That is a fact. The debt has increased each year sinc 2008 by $1 Trillion, $1.9 Trillion in 2009 and $1.7 Trillion in 2010. That doesn't include 2011. Up until 2008 increases were $500 Billion a year. Pluse your glorious healthcare mandate is enormously expensive. Someone has to pay for that.

Iraq was already on a draw down. Bush started that draw-down of troops during his last year. If McCain had won he's credited with "ending the Iraq war". Obama is bringing troops out of Afghanistan before generals agree that we would should and is doing it for political purposes. I'm a warrior and I enjoy deploying and fighting. As do the other men in my unit. You need to understand that under 5% of the military actually does the fighting and is designed to carry the fight to the enemy. That small percent wants to deploy...wants to fight. Everytime wars start seeming closer men in those units are eager to see if their units are going to go. We don't join the military so train our entire lives.

You obviously don't agree with at least the Iraq war but do you honestly believe that Bush lied to people or went with the best knowledge he had been provided at he time to make a decision? I'm not Obama fan but I don't think even he would "lie" to create a war, although I'm not a fan of the whole Libya decision either. Should have kept our noses out of that one as now the same thing is happening in Syria and we jus sit here and say "you better not!!" Why aren't we acting to protect the rebels in Syria??

We obvisouly aren't going to agree. I"m not going to convince you and you aren't going to convince me. I'm for Rick Santorum but I'll vote for anybody against Obama in 2012. Fas and furious has worked out well hasn't it.

WildViolet
WildViolet

.I will address Women's healthcare and the Catholic church. Contraceptive medicines are given for a number of reasons over and above preventing pregnancy. They are often given for a multitude of other health issues. No one was suggesting you go against your faith on contraception or a woman's choice. I will mention, however, 98% of CATHOLIC women have taken birth control sometime in their life.

As far as veterans are concerned, Ms. Obama has worked directly to provide funding and programs to help military families in numerous ways. They also have arranged that doctors and hospitals involve themselves in PTSD, treatment and studies. He also has set up programs to better provide those returning with employment opportunities. The issue I most personally appreciated was the ability to see the caskets of our veterans who do not return to their families. He also has removed us from Iraq. He also has given those that serve the dignity they deserve by doing away with don't ask don't tell. I know this was an important issue for those families who send their children away to risk their lives that they be able to serve and return with honor.

I don't know where you got your statistics, but he has not spent more than President Bush. How could he? Bush put us in 2 unnecessary wars under false premises. At the same time..cutting taxes, which had never been done in our history during times of war.

The housing crisis did not come about because of the Dodd-Frank bill. I would do some homework on that one. There were many reasons..regulations were ignored during the Bush administation..fraudulent loans and sub-prime mortgages..and big business found a way to bundle mortgages and sell them for profit..and move them to another mortgage company.

It seems from reading your post you have limited your resources for obtaining factual information and left it up to the ploys and spin artists of those wanting you to vote against your own best interest. I would have thought people like yourself would have learned a lesson from 8 years of the Bush administration. He sold a war to people like yourself..and now their selling you another bill of goods...and you have no one to blame but yourself.

WildViolet
WildViolet

Please let me explain the "death panels"..You have been duped! I will use an example. What they were trying to provide is a specialist to help family members make good healthcare decisions for their ailing parents. For example, if a elderly parent were suffering from Alzheimer's, had heart disease..and other health issues..and then was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer...would it be best for the patient to undergo unending tests, treatment that may do nothing but allow them to suffer in a hospital in a bed for the rest of their lives..not to mention their lack of understanding of what was happening to them and either leaving not only themselves destitute, but perhaps leaving their family with medical bills that could very well put them in bankruptcy or more. It is not about prohibiting healthcare to those elderly people who would still end up with a quality of life after treatment but those for which it would cause more suffering because a family member did not understand the implications of the proposed treatment plan. I'm not talking about "healthcare" but providing "insurance" for people to seek healthcare. You say God provides we have life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Oh, really. Does he pay for your fire department, police department, highway construction, national parks, sewers, intrastructure, etc.

How are you "saving" our society by mandating only a man and woman can get married? How does it affect you personally when other people choose the institution of marriage? People thought they were saving our society when they preached segregation and that only those of the same race could marry. When one out of every two marriages end in divorce people marry for 72 days..I'd have to say that is probably more of a drain on our society than two people of the same gender marrying. If you had a gay child would you not want them to have the same life and enjoy the same rights other's do?

No one is asking you or mandating you live outside your religious beliefs and doctrine. But in turn, do other's not have the freedom of religion and have the same rights to live within their own faith and follow their doctrine? I think there is something about the freedom of religion mentioned in our early documents?

When we only look to protect and care for ourselves we are not living within any religious doctrine. So it seems contrary to be spewing religion on one issue, but feel as though you can neglect other aspects of Christianity. If you think neglecting other's will bring about a better nation...I think you are unable to see in complex terms. I would say, just the same..if the world were a perfect place.. as you say..and there were no people suffering with severe disabilities, mental illness, chronic illnesses, vets returning severly wounded, and we had no vulnerable citizens like children who end up in foster care, because they have no one to care for them, or the elderly that have no families...then I'd say no we don't need a government to help us..but I'm glad and relieved we do..because I'm afraid if the world were left up to people like yourself...it would be a very worrisome and sad place to live.

NCHokie02
NCHokie02

Wow, where to start. From the beginning I suppose.

So I'm assuming you're not Catholic since you're calling the Catholic church archaic. But hey thats what they believe and it's protected under the 1st Amendment. No one in this country is denied contraception....condoms cost like $1.50 for three. They are available everyewhere. So why now am I forced to pay for these for other people? Especially if I dont' agree with them??

Where does Rick Santorum say that he doesn't believe women shouldn't work outside of the home?? His mother worked. His wife worked. He believes having a mother raise children is preferrable to both parents working and having day care raise your children. If women want to work then by all means go work, but just understand that the feminist idea of women having a successful career doesn't define happiness for them.

Where does Rick Santorum believe that every American subcribes to the same set of religious beliefs?? He doesn't. The government has no authority to make any law that forces people to violate their beliefs.

Where does Rick Santorum believe that tax-paying citizens shouldn't have the same rights as those that don't? Are you sure you're not talking about Obama on that one?

Just because Rick Santorum and the majority of America don't think that they should have to pay for other peoples health coverage doesn't mean he is against people having healthcare. Where is the origin of debt from me to you in terms of healthcare?? Why should I pay for your healthcare??

Where does Rick Santorum not understand the relationships with other countries to protect us??? Are you talking about Egypt...where Obama backed the Muslim Brotherhood over an ally? Mubarak may not have been the best guy in the world but he kept the radical Islamic group the Muslim Brotherhod at bay and kept peace with Isreal. The Muslim Brotherhood is talking of breaking the peace treaty with Isreal if we don't continue to give them aid. THat turned out great. You may be talking of Iran....which hasn't been an ally of the US since Jimmy Carter and the left let the Ayotollah overthrow the Shah. If not that then what are you talking about here?

The visionary's of tomorrow....wow. Socialism isn't a vision for tomorrow. Maybe spending more and more money is vision for tomorrow.

As for his list of achievments that you linked to it would take forever to go over everything so I'll go with some stuff off of the front page.

-Ended don't Ask don't Tell in the military - the military is not a social experiment there is no need to remove that. Its not about wether or not gays can do the job because they can. It's about all the little things. Such as housing, unit cohesion (not just at the soldier level but at the family level). But I'm sure you have a ton of military experience to know about this.

-Passed the Hate Crimes bill: aren't all crimes "hate" crimes?

- Stopped defending DOMA in court. REALLY??? Thats an achievment?? Stopped defending a federal law is an achievment? He may not agree with it but its the law so it's his administrations job to defend it. Period.

-Provided more subidies to healthcare: awesome subsidies are part of our spending problem. They keep people doing things they aren't good at and would be otherwise put out of business in a free-market.

-Invested in clean energy: Solyndra worked out will didn't it. We obviously are no less dependant on foreign oil and gas prices are doing great aren't they. Up 83% under his administration.

-Kept Dodd-Frank alive: Thats the main reason the housing crash happened. Dodd-Frank is horrible.

-Created another Federal agency: Great more beuracracy to pay for in taxes. Good move.

- He did a lot for veterans: Nice one there. I'm a veteran. What has he done specifically for veterans.

Funny that they don't mention that he's spent more than the "evil" GW Bush did in 8 years in just 3 years. Thats a pretty big accomplishment in my books.

johnos2112
johnos2112

You last sentence disqualifies Obama!

NJK
NJK

WildViolet,

The Declaration of Independence said your rights from God, not the government. A government that can give you things, can take them away. You have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. You are free to pursue whatever you want, including health care. The Constitution doesn't allow the Federal Government to provide health care, ss, medicare, EPA, DOE, Dept. of Indoctrination, etc. The Declaration didn't grant you equal outcomes in the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Rick Santorum didn't say he doesn't want everyone to have health care. He said the government can't provide that, and he's right.

In an ideal world, we'd all be born rich, healthy, with a beautiful house on the beach, with servants quarters. This is the real world. There's not enough money in the world to provide health care for everyone. There are ways to help people in need, but it's not the Federal Governments role or right to do that. Their main function is to provide for the safety of this nation, and that's about it.

You need to understand that just because they say you'll have "health care," doesn't mean you'll get it. They say everyone will be covered, but not everyone will get care. They have the IPAB or Death Panels. If you're old with a terminal illness, you will be denied care, because they don't view you as worth spending the money on. If you or a family member has a child with special needs, they'll view them as undesirable, and not worth spending the money on. This is what they don't want you to know.

We believe marriage is between a man and woman. If you have a same sex partner, no one is saying you can't have a civil arrangement. We're trying to save our society.

“I Lived Under Hitler and Stalin: They Promised Socialism … But Gave Us Tyranny”

http://www.libertyunderfire.org/2011/07/“i-lived-under-hitler-and-stalin-they-promised-socialism-…-but-gave-us-tyranny”/

WildViolet
WildViolet

You do understand it's not President Obama who feel's the right is out of touch and archaic in their thinking..it's the rest of the country! When did it become an elitist idea to use one's God-given brain to understand one cannot dictate morality and it is long past the time to ignore the right's of people other than those with your same beliefs. This is not a country built on narrow doctrines followed by just a few. When we choose a leader, we choose him to represent ALL American's. It is irresponsible and short-sighted to elect someone who would take us back decades instead of moving us successfully into the future. I'm too am an average American..and I plan to vote OBAMA!

NJK
NJK

Before you vote for him read this. He does not care about you or anyone else. He cares about keeping people dependent on him, so he can maintain power. That's it. He will never give you what he promises. He's just like the despots who came before him.

“I Lived Under Hitler and Stalin: They Promised Socialism … But Gave Us Tyranny”

http://www.libertyunderfire.org/2011/07/“i-lived-under-hitler-and-stalin-they-promised-socialism-…-but-gave-us-tyranny”/

johnos2112
johnos2112

I reject your notion that we dictate morality. Because our rights comes from GOD? You want to complain to someone go to George Washington's and Ben Franklin's grave and bitch there. Santorum is reiterating what these two and many other said back then. Many more believe that today. We choose a leader to represent all Americans? Yes we do. Then why does Obama ignore the people, a majority I might add, that does want to be told what healthcare to have and to MAKE those who have worked their collective asses off pay for it? He is not moving us successfully to the future WildViolet. His spending is out of control and in 2008 he said Bush was bankrupting the country. He tells AZ to not enforce illegal immigration laws because he won't! He mandates that everyone, including you, pay for someone else morning after, contraception and abortions? We are a representative republic and this man does not give a damn about that.

WildViolet
WildViolet

We already pay for other people's healthcare when they enter an emergency room to treat everything from an earache to stage 4 cancer. The health care reform bill is simply dividing up the costs so everyone will be paying into the system rather than a few. It also provides for preventive care and screening which will catch chronic and expensive diseases before they begin, saving a bundle. He has also deported more dangerous illegal immigrants during his time in office than any other president. When we allow all policies to provide for ALL of a woman's healthcare needs, the abortion rate goes down as well as the number of children we all support now through programs that help those unable to care for their children. May I suggest before you buy into the idea that the health reform bill is not cost efficient or put's our healthcare system in a better place to help everyone..you read it. You are already paying a substantial amount in premiums because of uninsured people. If you are so concerned about where your money goes and how it is spent..why not increase taxes for the top 1%? It is no different than your family budget,,in some respects..you can skip your oil changes and small repairs and upkeep on your car..or do them in a timely manner and prevent having to replace your car before it's time. If one is trying to save household money you can cancel your cable..electricity, etc...but when you find you can't live without it..it will cost you double to retain it again. You can't just slash a budget without thinking about the costs long term. We have come along way since the founding of our country and it has different problems if not more complex. What worked a hundred years ago..is not efficient for today's world.

BS61
BS61

Then I suggest you read your Progressive history - it's not a new thing and totally regressive. Central govt control hasn't worked in any country.

K-Bob
K-Bob

If Bush had left zero debt to Obama, and 5% unemployment, we'd still be a trillion dollars in debt and growing, and we'd still have 7% unemployment, thanks directly to Obama, Reid, and Pelosi's disastrous time at the head of government.

Every thing Obama and the Dem leaders touch is made worse.

WildViolet
WildViolet

I think you've been consuming too much protein. I'd say, minimally, you've overstated the current administration and it's power's. Considering there are 242 Republicans in the House and only 192 Democrats..and 51 Democrats in the Senate with 47 Republican's and 2 Independents.

I was more calmly referring to the disastrous state President Bushes policies had left our country to clean up.

proteinwisdom
proteinwisdom

You mean, like, being the umpteenth nation on earth to prop up some tinpot dictator and promise Utopia, only to deliver a corrupt permanent ruling class and a police state?

That kind of "doing the same thing over and over"-type insanity?

Sober_Thinking
Sober_Thinking

And what we have today, under this monster won't work ever. You really need to go where your odd positions and tainted alliances are appreciated... 'cause it ain't here.

WildViolet
WildViolet

I refer to myself as a Progressive. Unlike a Conservative who is adverse to change and new idea's. They'd rather keep making the same mistakes. I think it was Einstein who said..Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Michael Bittner
Michael Bittner

Don't bother trying to get through to a liberal...it's easier arguing with a wall!

NJK
NJK

"He has also deported more dangerous illegal immigrants during his time in office than any other president."

Not true. He's only telling you that. Did you know that he was selling AK-47's to the drug cartels to frame American drug dealers? Did you know that two Federal Agents and over 200 Mexicans have died from those guns? Did you know that Hezbollah is working with the drug cartels? He's suing AZ because he doesn't want them to protect their borders? AZ wants to enforce the Federal Laws, and a so called President is suing them to not protect the border.

Obama Amnesty Begins: Halts Deportations for 300,000 Illegal Aliens; Offers ‘Work Permits’

http://standwitharizona.com/blog/2011/08/18/obama-amnesty-begins-halts-deportations-for-300000-illegal-aliens-offers-work-permits/