Santorum: Romney and Gingrich are on the same team as Obama

Posted by The Right Scoop on January 26th, 2012 in Politics | 64 Comments

Some fighting words from Santorum on Gingrich and Romney:

You hear these folks talking about they’re the conservative candidate. I’m the one who’s been out there being against the government run healthcare. Not Newt Gingrich and not Mitt Romney. I’m the one who stood up against the Wall St. bailouts. Not Gingrich, not Romney. I’m the one who didn’t buy into the hoax of global warming and the proposed cap-n-trade. Not Mitt Romney and not Newt Gingrich. You go on down the list of some of the real litmus test issue of this campaign.

The reason Romney and Gingrich are fighting among each other about taxes and how much money they made and who they lobbied for is because they can’t talk about the issues because they’re on the same team as Obama. That’s why I’m gonna do very very well as this campaign goes on.

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Anonymous

God Bless you Rick. Best of luck in Florida. You are my only hope for a real choice on the red side of the ticket.
Anonymous

There is no doubt that he is more conservative than Romney and Newt. He really needs to press that distinction if he wants to get back in the race.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez

ouch that was very good from Santorum but is it going to be enough? too little too late?

http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Dias/1680711668 Chris Dias

If you vote for principle it is. And if you vote for principle, there is no argument that can stand up against it. That’s why the communist media is polling for Newt and Romney.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez

I’m voting to stop Mitt Romney from being the GOP nominee. You can vote for principle if you want but what good is that if Mitt Romney is your candidate. Hey at least you have peace of mind who you voted for, eh?

Anonymous

As long as the GOP nominee isn’t Mittens and the president in 2013 isn’t Maobama, then my principles are upheld and intact.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez

I agree…

Anonymous

I know you don’t like him, but there is only one person who can stop Romney from getting the GOP nomination on the first ballot, and that is Ron Paul.

Trust1TG

I sent money to Rick Santorum and Michele Bachmann’s campaign early on. I was disappointed to read this and posted this @ Santorum’s website, but I have not heard from his people about it:

“During the FL debate, attacking Romney and Gingrich, Santorum claimed he didn’t support individual healthcare mandates, but he actually did. Here is an article with his smiling face on it.”
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/01/09/401038/santorum-supported-individual-health-insurance-mandate-in-1994-republican-primary/?mobile=nc

http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez

ooo I did not know that.
http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/2GR77FIJZ2A2ZBKZFGRXYG7QY4 kim

Gulp.

Read the comment below. I figure this is how they will get around the individual mandate if the Supremes say it is unconstitutional. They will give the mafia-style choice instead.

“How truly different from the individual mandate is the Late Enrollment Penalty in the Bush/GOP Medicare Part D legislation. Is the latter not a way to twist people’s arms to “encourage” or “persuade” them to sign up for a healthcare program they might otherwise defer until they decided they needed it?”
http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/2GR77FIJZ2A2ZBKZFGRXYG7QY4 kim

Gulp. Didn’t know that.

Read the comment below pulled from the thinkprogress site.

“How truly different from the individual mandate is the Late Enrollment Penalty in the Bush/GOP Medicare Part D legislation. Is the latter not a way to twist people’s arms to “encourage” or “persuade” them to sign up for a healthcare program they might otherwise defer until they decided they needed it?”

Will they use this mafia-style “choice” as their workaround if the Supremes strike down the individual mandate as unconstitutional?

Furthermore, Santorum says he is against the individual mandate but I am pretty sure he supported Medicare Part D. So did Newt. Does this mean they endorse heavy-handed “choices?” If so, that is a mincing of words.

Anonymous

Medicare Part D, which Santorum voted for and Newt enthusiastically expressed his support for in the last debate, is the largest entitlement program since LBJ’s Great Society.

In addition, it constitutes legalized plunder. That is to say, it takes property from one person under threat of force and gives it to another. Put plainly, it is socialism.

Good luck to all in convincing yourselves that either of these men are limited government conservatives.

Anonymous

Well, I know Ron Paul certainly isn’t a limited government Conservative. He’s a liberal anarchist. He wants to get rid of the military so we’ll have plenty of money for Unicorn poop and free stuff for everybody on the home front. He doesn’t want to repeal any of it. Just get rid of law and order. I’ll take Santorum or Newt any time over that nonsense. js.

Anonymous

Why don’t you back anything you just said with substantive content? I would be glad to debate you on those points. Everything you said about Paul is quite easily dismissed within the realm of reality. Who actually in the realm of unicorn poop here?

K-Bob

Just don’t start up the cut & paste factory. A lot of Paul supporters have already done that on this site, so we don’t need another re-run.

Anonymous

LOL!

http://www.facebook.com/people/Lynda-Deming/100001302481307 Lynda Deming

It is difficult for me to understand why folks condemn Medicare Part D. It is not really a new entitlement program as much as a substitute for higher spending in other areas of Medicare.

In other words, if I am going to be forced to pay for someone’s medical care I would much rather pay for their monthly digitalis than open heart surgery or their insulin than a foot amputation.

Unless or until we rid ourselves of all these socialist/communist entitlement programs I am all for saving as much taxpayer money as possible.

Anonymous

I am glad that you recognize the element of force. It is not the role of the federal government to redistribute wealth by force, and anyone who votes to do just that can hardly be considered a limited government conservative.

Anonymous

What does an individual mandate have to do with Medicare Part D? Not sure what you mean.

http://www.therightscoop.com/ The Right Scoop

I wouldn’t take that for face value. I didn’t see a single quote attributed to Santorum. Just someone else suggesting that was his policy.

Seriously, with the media the way it is, there’s no way I’d treat that as gospel. More like garbage.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez

it’s kind of jacked up situation to be in at the time.. either you were for the individual mandate and individual responsibility as the thinking was for conservatives or were for the very socialist hillarycare government run healthcare. So not sure if Santorum was for it or not but it wouldn’t surprise me if he was at one point, but i wouldn’t hold it against him, the big problem with Romney he won’t admit that Romneycare and individual is a mistake.

http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

Think Progress is a liberal site. I’d do some more investigating to see if it’s true.
Anonymous

http://lisagraas.com/blog/2012/01/21/andrew-kaczynski-tries-to-pin-healthcare-mandate-on-rick-santorum/

“Andrew Kaczynski writes that Rick Santorum supported an employer mandate for health insurance. It appears that Kaczynski did a Google News search for “rick santorum individual mandate” and came up with an article which doesn’t refer to an individual mandate at all. It mentions a proposal that includes a “mandate” that employers “offer” their employees group health coverage. This is quite different from a mandate that requires employers to cover all employees.

The main problem with Obamacare, that Rick Santorum has strongly opposed throughout his career, is an “individual mandate” requiring that everyone purchase insurance…….I am not seeing anything there that requires the employeer to pay anything, and there is also nothing that requires the employee to purchase insurance, so it’s not really a mandate at all, in effect. Further, the article notes the medical savings account provision which would result in lower fees.

I would like to invite Andrew Kaczynski to just ask Rick Santorum why he decided to run for President. He decided to run because of the tyranny that is Obamacare, wherein people are forced to purchase health insurance. To suggest that Rick Santorum’s proposal above is anything like a “mandate” in the sense that people would be forced to purchase something is simply not realistic at all.

Both Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney have supported an individual mandate. Romney signed it into law in Massachusetts in Romneycare, and Gingrich supported the very same mandate and Romneycare itself. From Newsmax, May, 2011.”

I live in PA and Rick Santorum is a real Conservative-who actually attracts ‘Reagan Democrats”. IMO, the etablishment (Specter/GWB) left him high and dry after he backed Specter in order to affect SCOTUS pick (pro life). He took it like a man and has learned the lesson.

Anonymous

I am curious. What is the difference between and individual mandate, and a business mandate? Either way, you are forcing insurance on the people. This is exactly what the insurance companies want. Who actually ends up paying for the insurance? Business’ have to pass the cost on to someone. In most cases it is the higher cost of goods and services, but it often involves the employee paying higher co-pays, loss of total coverage, and higher deductibles. I should know, I have watched mine go up for for the last twenty years. Many states have forced employer coverage.

The only difference is in who ultimately buys the insurance, and who is liable for not providing it. So you either punish the citizens directly, or indirectly through their employers.

Free market my tush.

http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

Reading the article we find this, “Santorum introduced the idea of a medical savings account, called Medisave, which has become part of the Gramm bill. Under it, workers would buy major medical insurance and could make tax-free contributions to a Medisave account, from which they would pay for preventive services.”

Even the article did not state a mandate but that each person would be responsible (required) for their own insurance instead of employers. With this coming from THINKPROGRESS I doubt they would paint Santorum in any fair light. Require can mean a whole mess of different things from one person to another. Let’s stop giving the media the benefit of the doubt and start giving our candidates it instead.
Is_Sense_Common

Rick Santorum is the perfect social conservative but his record on spending in DC is not good. He’s not as pure as the driven snow as he’d have us believe. Thanks for posting.
Anonymous

False. Watch the 1994 C-Span video as Santorum kills HillaryCare and mandates in the first 5 minutes. Furthermore, he stresses “You can’t force every American to do something they don’t want to do,” without fundamentally changing America.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/61219-1
Santorum is THE consistent conservative willing to hold fast when the loyal opposition calls.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Ricardo-Galvan/100001729378103 Ricardo Galvan

Santorum is a bottom feeder who ran as a moderate in PA. He’s a lying SOB and I’ve been sick of him from day one. There is nothing conservative or Presidential about a guy who is willing to lie or twist or slime anyone who happens to be at the top of the polls. He did this to Cain viciously, and he’ll keep doing it until the SOB finally drops. I hope that day comes soon. He’s endangering our election.

Anonymous

From what I understand, the banks have their money on Romney and Newt. They might keep Santorum in long enough to keep the guy who is supported by individuals at bay.
Anonymous

Hate is a destructive emotion. Doesn’t your weed make you chill?

http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Dias/1680711668 Chris Dias

I’m still standing by Rick.
Anonymous

…right scoop a GREAT NEW LOOK !”

as in web page .
Anonymous

The colon in the headline should be a comma.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Lynda-Deming/100001302481307 Lynda Deming

Thank you, professor. Or is it: Thank you: Professor

Anonymous

If this guy gets us a Romney nomination, he deserves an egging

Anonymous

I agree that Romney canNOT be our GOP nominee. But again, at this point anyway, I don’t see Santorum as a serious threat to Newt. Newt is on a whole other level right now and saying all the right things. I like Santorum but he’s not lighting up the boards like Newt is. If Rick does leech support from Newt for the wrong reasons… then I’m all for egging him. But Santorum has a place still in an election that still has a long way to go.

Trust1TG

Rick S. is showing more confidence and articulated the conservative message very well in this intervied. Megyn Kelly is a neat, smart, sweet lady. She is an attorney, so she knows how to go deep and get the answers.
http://fishygov.wordpress.com FishyGov

Rick was a lobbiest…yes he was.

The real reason Newt and Mitt are attacking each other and not Rick is they are playing bumper cars as they’re racing down that political highway and Rick’s in their rearview mirror. It’s hard to attack someone when they’re behind you.
Anonymous

I’ll definitely vote for him if he’s still running when the primary gets to my state. I just don’t think he’ll make it that far. I wish you well, Rick.

But if he drops out I’ll be voting for Newt.

http://twitter.com/CharlieZangelQQ DaMz

I’m voting Tues and hes getting my vote

Anonymous

Good for you.

If he is fortunate, and plays his cards right, maybe enough people will realize in time that there’s still a third choice.

Anonymous

He has changed his tune since the Morning Joe interview the other morning, and is now suggesting that he is carrying on to early February caucus states. I still say he drops out either this weekend or next Wednesday.

Anonymous

The longer he stays in, the more soft delegates will be available for Ron Paul. It is a two edged sword. Right now the globalist three are tearing each other apart. My sister went to a caucus meeting in Nevada. I didn’t understand how the delegate thing could pan out until she explained it. If Perry supporters went in and became delegates, and they drop out, they can vote for Paul. Same with Santorum. It will be interesting to see how the final three pan out.

Anonymous

I agree. I think the money will run out and one or more of the other candidates may outshine him. But he’s still my number one. Newt is right on his bumper though.

http://no-apologies-round2.blogspot.com/ AmericanborninCanada

I’ve been SO tired of hearing mittens and Newt attack each other and attack ads on each other for the past few days, this is VERY refreshing. C’mon Rick- show some passion tonight will ya?!
Anonymous

If Santorum focuses on the issues, attacks Maobama and his wretched SOTU speech, highlights how he’ll fix this country, and paints a clean and clear contrast between Mittens and Newt, then he will do well after Florida. I honestly don’t see him finishing higher than 3rd there. But he could flourish in the other states.

He may be the last man standing if Newt and Mittens keep breaking out the nuclear weapons. I wish Rick would be more on fire like Newt is. Furthermore, Newt is overtly embracing Tea Party ideals… Rick isn’t quite so loud in those areas. I feel he’s the most conservative candidate and I like his plaform overall. We’ll see how he does later on.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Ricardo-Galvan/100001729378103 Ricardo Galvan

It’s a myth that Santorum is the most conservative candidate. Santorum created the myth himself by simply repeating it over and over and over again.

Anonymous

You’re entitled to your opinion. I disagree.
Anonymous

Give me a break Ricardo. You’ve lost your mind

Anonymous

Rick Santorum is only conservative on social issues; fiscally, he was a big spender and more than once bowed his knee to the liberals in the Senate. He also supported the individual mandate back in the 90′s and I found by googling it in a Lehigh County, Pa newspaper.

He’s got a past and this is why he lost big to Casey in 2006. At this point he is so far behind he might as well get out of the race. The only thing is if he does he might support Romney over Newt because he is part of the northeast Republican establishment which is liberal to moderate.

Anonymous

Santorum endorsed Romney in 2008. I don’t see why he would do differently this year.

Anonymous

You’re right; I forgot about that. If Santorum does endorse Romney he better not choose to run again because the base will not back him.

Anonymous

Mark Levin would be very conflicted if Santorum endorsed Romney again.

Anonymous

As much as I have always like Mark he should be conflicted supporting Santorum. This was a huge surprise for me.

http://twitter.com/PuritanD71 PuritanD71

You cannot be serious….who else could he have supported in 2008…get your history first and then comment. Please, 2008 was a different time and a whole different election…..Mittens vs. John McCain….come on

Anonymous

What are you saying…he will support Newt this time?

Anonymous

Well, it won’t be your boy Paul
http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Reed/100002167760925 Bill Reed

If I was him, I would support nobody. For now, he needs to fight on. He is by far the most conservative and social issues do matter to lots of us. I do not trust Romney or Newt on social issues. Santorum is A+ there.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000152902441 Jeremy Volkens

Santorum endorsed Romney because he was better than McCain just like a lot of people at that time.

Anonymous

Patently false, but nice try

Anonymous

I despise the media. This is an attack on the candidate dressed up as a news story.

“Reports are out Candidate X will be dropping out.”

What are the reports? Phone calls from Romney’s campaign? Make the accusation and spread some FUD. Reduce the confidence in Candidate X. Damage done. Mission accomplished. Cash your Romney checks Fox.
Anonymous

By the time all the schemers and plotters get their proper candidate worked out as to who is best to beat Obama, the game will change and have to start all over.

Obama is high on the list to lose his bid to be on the Georgia Ballot. He lost a default judgement at today’s hearing, and the suggestion of ‘no appearance on the ballot’ was forwarded to the Secy of State. Evidence of his natural born citizen failure was entered into the record and it was this the decision of the hearing. There were three consecutive hearings, two were challenges based on NBC failure and the third on document forgery ( birth certificate) and social security fraud.

Wonder who will be the Democrat candidate for 2012 now? And which of the few remaining Republicans will be most likely to ‘beat’ him… or her?
Constance

Santorum is just consistent. No flashy substance or style, but consistent. I am glad he is continuing in the race, because we need the remaining candidates to go on for as long as possible to give the “other” states, like mine here in Arizona, the chance to have a voice too. By the time our turn came around last time, Romney dropped out, and we were left with McCain. I was not a happy camper.

Santorum: Romney and Gingrich are on the same team as Obama

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