I think the RINO's have already "fallen and can't get up." We need more conservatives like Rubio, Ryan, Palin and Bachman. What the heck is happening in this country? Obama must be impeached and we need a strong conservative for president. I am tired of voting for the "lesser of 2 evils" all the time.
When the GOP establishment kicked the conservative Repubs (the Tea Partiers) off the deciding committees, they did not improve their status in the eyes of Dems, as I'm sure they expected. The only thing they accomplished is, they pulled the TParty down to their level as seen by libs. The GOPe should have never aired their internal beefs in public by kicking them off, thus confirming (in the opinion of libs) that the TP is "just as bad as the Repubs, after all, see, the Repubs don't even like them!".
Now, I'm reading comments like, "the Repubs AND tea partiers want to kill disabled people" (referencing the rejection of the UN's proposal for the disabled, which they correctly rejected as leading to loss of U.S. sovereignty). The GOPe's extremely poor communication and dissemination of info skills have resulted in their political descent - and now, thanks to them, the TP appears to be in the same boat with them! I'm not saying the Dems liked the TP prior to this. They didn't. What I am saying is, this action gave the Dems the opportunity to kick more dirt in the face of the TP.
The other thing the GOPe did when they boot-kicked the TP off the committees is, they revealed why it's been business as usual since the 2010 election. At that time, there were many TP candidates elected to Congress, and some of us have been wondering why they've had little to no influence or effect on the legislation. Well, now we know that the GOPe has been basically telling them to shut up and sit in the back of the room. We suspected that was going on, and this latest fiasco has confirmed it.
She is right. I'm sure glad our founders didn't form a circular firing squad after each defeat. The disease that affects us all is inside the beltway, and THAT is what must be purged, not the tea party electees! There are a few posts on FR http://fundamentalrefounding.ning.com/ about the purging etc, and I am adding this there. Take a look, and if you like us, join us! God bless, JG
"This won't be forgotten come 2014" says Palin!
She's right, it won't be forgotten should the Republican party leaders decide to violate their own platform to satisfy what they call some kind of political edge or power. The very nature of what they are considering, ie. agreeing to raise taxes, goes against the very principles for what the party alledgedly stands for, as vague as they are, to justify any compromise. In fact, I had to go back to the outline of the 2012 Republican Platform to remind myself of what it was:
■Restoring the American Dream:Rebuilding the Economy and Creating Jobs
■We The People: A Restoration of Constitutional Government
■America’s Natural Resources: Energy, Agriculture and the Environment
■Reforming Government to Serve the People
■Renewing American Values to Build Healthy Families, Great Schools and Safe Neighborhoods
■The Platform Committee
Right out of the gate we have the Preamble, "We the People"....secure blessings of liberty and posterity. Secondly, there is "Restoring the American Dream: .........".
Now, by raising taxes on individuals who worked hard so that they could enjoy the fruits of their labor only to have it taken away by the throes of the Federal Government is, in my opinion, the opposite of what they stand for. Futhermore, where in the world of compromise is the Democrat party being asked to violate what they believe in? Nowhere!
Clearly, if the leaders of this party stray from their own platform, then either they be removed (by voting them out) or I will remove myself from the Republican Party!
The GOP is already 'wobbly'. Time for them to weeble wobble and fall down. Isn't it interesting that of all the people that I like - Sarah Palin, Allen West, Mark Levin, Newt Gingrich, etc. - none of them are afraid to speak the truth. Must be something to that.
Wouldn't it be grand to get them all together - I don't know - somewhere, someplace where they would do a collective good. Hmmm...
GOP is throwing Tea Party under the bus rapidly and trying capitulation to the dictatorial left.
It won't work.
this is why people like Coulter and others were so upset with the results of Nov elections. In their mind they ran the perfect candidate vs Carter 2.0 and thought that they finally got the base in their pocket. They thought where else are they going to go. They wanted to replicate 2010 in 2012 but without all those unwashed masses and without those downcountry voters. They wanted the landslide expected the landslide but instead lost. the moderates wanted their Reagan landslide moment but instead got smacked down by the worse POTUS in American History. No wonder the GOPe is caving to Obama. Now the GOPe understands to have a Reagan type landslide to have the majority they have to have the Reagan and the platform. they thought reagan was a fluke that he only won becaus eCarter was that bad. Well now we see. We see Reagan wasn't a fluke or a one off. And 2010 replicated the 180 84 and 94 elections. Now the GOPe has decided they would rather be ruled by the dems then govern a conservative nation.
it cant work.... Bohner has to go.......... Newt should have been nominated speaker
Newt is cut from the same cloth but he is just a little better at it. I would like to see a true conservative with the speaker-ship like McClintock or some other.
I did too but his latest comments tell me that my instincts about the whole lot of them are correct.
Remember newt groomed Boehner.
Newt is a historian and has good executive experience. He knows the perrils we face. Yes he has thrown the left a bone here and there but knows how to preserve true conservtism. Palin so much as endorsed him in the primaries. I voted for him in the primaries. The media had a field day with him because he is divorced. Reagan was divorced and he was still able to govern conservatively. The right is its worst enemy some times. We dont need to re-invent the wheel just weed our garden of Bohner weeds.
Somebody needs to send Boehner some Marx/Engels, Plato, More, Hobbes, or at a minimum Ameritopia by Mark Levin. This guy is either clueless, or a traitor...
If we cant get a better hold on the election process and the abuse and stolen elections it doesnt matter how many tea party or good conservatives we nominate. And to think Newt couldnt get a second and a nomination for speaker. There is deep corruption there in the established GOP. This is a fight that they are willing to lose to save their selves. We must not stand for these traitors.
Working on it. We need all the help we can get.
1) Expose the election fraud/secure the election process.
2) Expose the LameStream deceit for what it is/promote the New Guardian (5th estate) alternate media to tell the truth.
3) Establish a new party that will encompass all the good parts of the Tea Party/Libertarian Party/Constitutional Party that will draw in people from the Conservative side, the Independents, and the moderate left.
These are three prongs of a single goal - win the hearts and minds of the people and secure their vote. Everybody has a talent. Grab one (or more) and run with it. We all come back here, so it all comes back to us. Let's work together and we can beat them (we are on the ground floor of a strong movement).
She will keep the pressure on and the publicity relentless, for all to see and understand. The second revolution continues apace!
Here in my town, where the majority voted for Romney- after the majority voted for Obama in 2008- people are still in pain over the election. Every day I talk to more and more people who are suffering- either due to more "bad" news from unemployment, housing issues or just related to the high prices of groceries. The costs are OUTRAGEOUS.
I have to say though- and dont hate me- the people that I talk to... "regular" people, not real political or invested in current events…They dont want any more fights. I'm not speaking for myself but others…. They seem for the most part tired of Obamas bullsh*t, but they dont want any more haggling. Its like they want a magic wand to fix the Country
…I dont think these people will ever vote outside the box.
they are giving in to communism... exactly what big goverment wants.... to strip the individual down. they are so used to this depressed economy that started imo four years ago. Cant they remember the good years. Bush's first and half of his second. We were all making good money....saving money..... obama stole this election and these people are just laying down and allowing it all to happen.... we need to fight
I understand what you are saying but I have to tell you those 'regular' folks are part of the problem and their own worst enemy. they had better buck up and fight or they are going to find out that things can indeed get worse...much worse. this country is headed for a depression between inflation, taxes, and devaluing the dollar. None of them I bet ever have lived when the dollar wasn't the world's currency so they can't even begin to imagine the effect of that.
Gov Palin has many followers on her facebook page - and they'll certainly pass this report on Boehner's shenanigans on to more and more people.
Boehner and the GOP don't know what hit them yet - but they will soon.
TEA Party Representatives will be told in no uncertain terms by those who supported them and elected them that the train will hit the buffers, unless they stand up and stop being wusses.
I've been away. Is there are a groundswell of "I'm done with the GOP, we need a new party" talk on the ground at forums like this one? I'm not talking the Paulites, I'm talking about us conservatives.
sporadic, depending on the days events and political posturing by
Boehner. Seems to be a want to find a new party but little movement. But I''ly say this, the time is ripe for a few (Cruz, West, RUbio, Palin etal) to take off in their own direction. 3 minorities and a woman speaking oout about their ambitions for the people and visions for the country would go a long wayin gaining supporters tired of the ole boys club. Especially if Palin chooses to take more of an organizational role.
After the purge, who is left? Whatever happened to "growing the party?"
No need to reply, I already know the answer.
The Permanent Republican Political Class really is our biggest problem.
Let's try again in 2014 to get some younger blood in there....folks who will fight and not give up or compromise!
I said back in 2010 it doesn't matter how many foot soldiers you elect unless you can grasp the seats of power the foot soldiers will do what the general tells them. I think the TEa party people fell for the GOP elites line of Bull that the TEa party didn't need a leader because the media would attacvk them. Well guess what we had no organization and the media still attacked us and the GOPe were able to steal the hard wortk of the Tea party and use it for their own ends. Well 2014 better be different.
All we have to do is remember that in 2004 when the Democrats lost to George W. Bush they did not just fold up their tents and go home. They did NOT become more bipartisan, they did NOT work more with the president, and they did NOT support the war in Iraq even though a good cas could be made that the 2004 election was a referendum on the Iraq war. In short, the Democrats became more liberal, more combative, and more uncooperative in Congress. And the result? They won the house in 2006 and won a total super majority in the House, Senate, and the White House in 2008. So much for giving up your core principles to be more "bipartisan" and do what's best for the country. Now, more than ever, we need to stick by our core conservative principles. And we in th Tea Party most certainly will. It's time for the RINO Republicans to do the same, or lose what little support they still have within the party.
Stop complaining about the GOP. They are a lost cause. They are contaminated and tainted with a Liberal bias and its terminal. Let it die in peace.
For the Tea Party to become fully viable as a standalone party definitely have an uphill battle. They have to get on the ballots, have the means to promote and advertise itself, and also overcome the presstitutes.
I grow tired of the RNC being neo-statist and not CONSERVATIVE.
To Boehner all I can say: "Keep poking the tiger with that stick..."
Libertarian Party already on 48 State Ballots. Call it the Screw the Rich Establishment Party and see where the MSM/Press loyalties really lie...
The tea party people do NOT have to be 1) a party 2) not national.
What needs to be done is remain GOP in local elections & Conservative Party in the Nationa electios. This will enhanse conservatives in congress.
A serious effort must be made to remove the "leadership", but most important is ridding Boehner.
It was mccain that blocked judical selections. It was mccain the made the tax reduction temporary (ending in weeks). He reprents The Establishment.
The Establishment needs to be removed.
My thought has been that we may have to start with just the President for the Conservative Party but I agree with the concept. We have made inroads using the GOP in Congress. Continue that process. They apparently need a leader for backbone in the executive branch.
Therein lays the trick. The fact is the neo-statists have been a part of the RNC establishment for 40+ years. They blocked Reagan, time and again but Reagan persevered. He had HW as his veep but history has shown that in general he was no Reagan.
We shouldn't call it the tea party, that name is already mud because of the media.
Use the left's tactics, call it the prosperity party or something close to that. Name the party opposite of how it will be attacked.
What will we call the New Party two years Later, after the media makes it MUD?
Do you think they just don't like the name Tea Party?
They could care less what the name becomes, they don't like, respect, or want the ideology. They will fight it with all their words, might and dirty tactics.
We can't use the left's weaselly word strategy. Stand up for what we believe, many Americans don't like their attacks on the Tea Party.