The Right Scoop
Here is a video of the entire speech
Sarah Palin at Patriots in the Park
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il3xPOhVoCg&feature=player_embedded
Video courtesy of Christopher Fromme, Volunteer, PA AGU/O4P
By the way, prepare for the torrent of lies about this event. From Rattle with Us (the guys that hosted this event, and are the umbrella organizers for Michigan's Tea Parties):
"Great event today. Super hot but it was super cool. Didn't get a chance to hear all the speakers because of doing security. Who did you guys really like? See the Detroit News listed the rally as having 400. There were at least 1,000 to 1,500 and that is from a police count not a wishful organizer's count. Oh well, we know how many were there - enough to win this election if we stayed engaged."
There's a big difference between 400 and 1,000, and I know the Van Buren Police Department, personally, for the most part (growing up in that area). I definitely trust their word, over that of leftist hacks from the Detroit News & "Free" (HA!) Press. I got questioned by a black guy from the Detroit News that seemed surprised that someone like me would be out there, so I'm sure there'll be a picture of me at the event, buried somewhere on page 19, some time this week. Wish I'd've gotten a chance to have him convey a message to the NAACP.
Dude. Seriously. Had the camera panned a little further to the right, I'd've been right there, front loaded by a local Conservative politician that gave me his seat, because I was a Conservative Veteran. I didn't get a chance to speak to Palin, personally, because she was constantly being mobbed, but I was pretty darned close. Humorously enough, I grew up right across the expressway at the apartment complex there, and right around the corner from the fairground this took place at, was my junior high school. The sun was beating down, yesterday, but it was still a great event, and I ended up being connected to a lot of local Tea Party groups. This was a great event, and Sarah Palin was every bit the wonderful woman I believed she was, right up to the end, where she demanded Veterans raise their hands and be recognized. By the way, this was in Belleville, Michigan; 4H Fairground.
You deserve it Virus, glad and not surprised she recognized you and others that served and are currently serving. What a day to remember eh?
I take two things from that statement.
She has no love for Romney so calling it the Rupublican party of Freedom is NOT referring to Romney as President. So who is going to be the Republican President if not romney?
Oh yeah, point 2. We now know for certain she won't run as 3rd party. Only run in Republican party - push romney out of the way
We know, that's why we Santorum supporters were begging Newt to drop out when Santorum started winning, but he wouldn't and we predicted this is what would happen.
GEORGE SOROS:
"If it’s between Obama and Romney, there isn’t all that much difference...."
What do you think of that Rombots and RINOs?!
The progressive liberals were able to take over the Democratic party, and it took years for them to do so. This needs to happen to the Republican party. We Conservatives need to take over the party that once stood for limited government, and adhered to the principles of the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution.
Vote out the Rhinos and elect true constitutional conservative candidates...
The nomination of John McCain in 2008 and now Mitt Romney, by the media and the GOPe shows how difficult it is going to be to bring conservatism into the Republican party. The progressive liberals not only took over the Democrat party but they also infiltrated the GOP. The problem is, the elitist politicians have, through law, silence, and arrogance, thwarted our right to free and honest elections.
We have only this election to make the GOP more conservative, and not just by a little. If we fail, all the nightmares come true.
You're right, Sarah. The big O is scared of us, we're the only thing standing between him and total domination. If he does win, in a year or so the sheeple will look up and say, "How come nobody told us?"
This is what we need in a conservative leader. Wow...God bless Gov.Palin and God bless America.
We've just had our Patton speech in front of the troops. In these next four months, we must not falter in supporting Sarah. Her successes, with our backing, is what makes her powerful. The time for quibbling with each other is over. Let's not eat our own. There will be some who will not be able to pull the lever for Romney. We still can work together for the down ticket candidates. Even, in the battle for Independence from Britain, not all agreed. The fires are lit, the tea has steeped.The battle cry rings out, "Anyone but Obama." Let's take back America.
A few last thoughts before I get ready for bed, after reading the many comments I'm discouraged as well as encouraged.
Discouraged that some think something will change at the RNC convention. Although that would be great, realistically I doubt that will happen. Get over it and deal with it. It is what it is.
The encouraging part is that we will still have Sarah on our side. She can hold Romney and others to task and take it to the media. I think if she keeps Romney in check for whatever term(s) he serves, she will our be our POTUS one day, or at least play a major role in the restoration of our nation.
I agree Maxine. Romney is Romney and he is not going to acquire Gov. Palin's personality because we think he should. God is using Gov. Palin to gather the troops to fight for our country in November.
I hope and pray once the convention is over, this bickering and infighting will cease. I hope that Romney will welcome Gov. Palin to some of his appearances which I think will really help him gain support. God has a purpose for everyone but He chooses not us.
As long as the Tea Party Movement, "We The People" who are the Tea Party, continue to support Mrs Palin and support other Tea Party elected officials in every way we can, as we all have since 2009, we can rest assured we'll restore America.
tea party patriot
I doubt it will happen too, but I am willing to let the process play itself out all the way first, with the certain knowledge that things CAN change and that it doesn't even have to be a miracle for that to happen.
When Clinton said "what the definition of is is?" should put everything into proper perspective for everyone.
Those that don't like Romney and want to stay on the sidelines so that their principles are not compromised, What is it that you will have achieved? The ability to complain for another 4 years as Big government becomes even bigger and you have lost more of your freedom that you so cherish.
Those that wanted Sarah to run for POTUS ( Count me in ) and still think that this miracle will occur at a run away convention. Do you really think this "is" a possibility especially with what the GOP has for its leadership and the multi millions of dollars that they control. This convention has been signed and sealed for along time and my guess is that Sarah knew it and decided that she didn't want to put her family through that debacle once again. Sarah is a very shrewd politician that seems to know when to pick her battles.
Those that can't stand what Obama has and will do, Why aren't all of you, me and eveyone else putting your rage and anger and placing it right smack at where it belongs, The SOB that deserves it, OBAMA. Kick his ass out of office once and for all and then have an attorney general with some balls go after him for any crimes that he has committed. Ex presidents are no longer protected by the office of President.
As for the spineless linguine GOP just vote them out. Your vote does have power at this level. Stop believing the campaign BS that is said every 2, 4 and 6 years. They say what they think you want to here and then they go right back to who and what they really are, politicians. We may get lucky and find someone that still believes in what we want and stand for and will keep their word and listen to what we want. Problem is that to many of us like some of the things that Big Government suckers us into.
Learn what it "is " that you want and what you will do to get it.
This election isn't just about the Republicans vs. Democrats. It's freedom vs. government. There is a difference.
We will have a "freedom party"... one way or another.
http://recovering-liberal.blogspot.com/2012/06/palin-says-3rd-party-run-entirely.html
how would that work though David? Huge numbers of raging conservatives at VP events & handfuls of subdued attendees at events for Romney?
She would show him up just by showing up - would never work
they are character opposites
transparency/non transparency
steel spine/bendy spine
NOT4SALE/4SALE
Reformer/non Reformer
Principled/non-Principled
Conservative Record/Liberal Record
Fought Obamacare/Inspired Obamacare
Trusted/Not Trusted
Sarah Palin as Romney VP after all the garbage his campaign spewed against her since 2008, and this cycle holding her out as an example of how not to pick a VP? Sarah Palin would destroy her own credibility and would be miserable in Washington doing nothing, lying about her support for the RINO sellout that is surely in the offing. Sarah is for sudden and relentless reform, Romney won't touch the deficit in the first year as it will lead us into recession. This, of course, is true, it's called taking our medicine for our decades of profligate spending.
Leadership is inherent in Sarah Palin, how many "I" or "Me" in her speeches? How many "We", "US", and "Our"? obama and Romney use "I" and "Me" hundreds of times in their egoist speeches representing themselves. Sarah Palin represents Americans........ALL of US.
This is too much, So the White House says "It is important not to read to much into a single monthly report.." for 30 Months!!!
lol ... This is so freaking bad it's becoming a comedy...
Sarah Palin is grassroots on steroids...
Her play is a smart one
She can play it from the sidelines and avoid the personal MSM attacks
The GOPs better realize what an asset she is and give her ALL the suport she needs.
She is the BIG GUN in this election
I would love to see her on the Cabinet
Secretary of Energy and EPA (to disband it)
he can only win if the huge swathe of Conservatives currently 'unlikely to vote' change their status
I don't expect this tho due to lack of trust in Romney, his poor conservative record, lack of transparency (destroyed his MA Admin hard drives and won't release all Tax Returns), Romneycare (where he encouraged BHO to COPY what he did in MA) and of course Etch-A-Sketch
by time Tampa gets here Romney will be so weak the Delegates will open the Convention, and nominate a WINNING True Conservative ticket which will demolish the DEM Ticket, because it will maximise the Conservative turnout at the Polls
Totally disagree. Any Conservative that sits out this election is in no way a Conservative or an American. Not a Romney fan be he is 1000x better than this muslim radical in office now.
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we'll see if your Mitty makes it past Tampa, or whether he finds there are family reasons for him to pull out before Tampa
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and Mitty is still the putative Nominee
the GOPe were really foolish not to VET Romney fully during the Primary Process
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I think Mitt had better reveal his Tax Returns and assure SOCON voters that he has not profited off aborted fetuses
Hate to say it but I think you are a complete liberal awhole. Mitt is it. Go vote for barry the muslim.
I really think the Putative Nominee will be as far as he gets ... just as well Tampa is still 6 weeks hence ... time left to VET ole Mitt, uncover the stuff he is trying to hide
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I've already explained that ur Mitty is not the nominee dumbo- really AZ, ya shouldn't bad mouth him like that
he is unscrupulous, amoral and unworthy, but he isn't the nominee Dumbo
not even the Putative nominee Dumbo
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Romney is Putative, Presumptive (and presumptuous also) ... his time in the spotlight will come to an end soon
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I seriously think you have a gay attraction to Romney as you talk about him constantly. Are you still in the closet?
yes I believe it does in this case, for your Mitty
I wonder if he knows the saying "be sure your sins will find you out"?
yep
it's remarkable the way she can read the consequences of certain political actions/words spoken ...way down the track
I love it when a plan comes through.
Always said Sarah was the best poker player out there - she's proving me right!!
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which is Mitty's major problem right now I wonder - is it dissing The Real Deal over speaking at Tampa, or is it failure to be transparent and release all his Tax Returns?
hmmm ... I don't think you are gonna make it to Tampa Mitty
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I see Jedidiah Bila is tweeting to encourage full transparency now also ... more and more will start speaking out
meanwhile, poor ole Mitty is finding it hard to get someone to join him on the ticket! LOL
yep
poor ole Mitty is under all sorts of pressure
wrt Gov Palin speaking at Tampa - he has the ROCK .... HARD PLACE problem
he can't afford to have her speak at Tampa, and he can't afford NOT to have her speak at Tampa either!
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the Putative Nominee ... for a short while longer
Ron Paul has asked for him to release his Tax Returns now also ... Bill Kristol ... AL Gov Bently ... reckon it's coming ...
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We were kicked off of C4P by Stacy Drake because we kept saying Sarah will be running for President this year. Now C4P can eat crow because Palin just threw out the FIRST bullet to take down Romney. Not allowing her to speak? It's all a buzz on the net and conservatives everywhere are livid. He's done, cooked throw the bird aside
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it's nice that Romney has had the Putative Nominee spotlight for a few weeks at least
could be coming to an end soon
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Romney is struggling real bad - I reckon those Tax Returns will have to be released and then all H*** is gonna break loose for the Putative Nominee!
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I think he will hold on to Putative Nominee position a little longer ... but, he's foolishly dissing The Real Deal right now .... I really don't think Tampa will nominate him - he's too weak
Romney is the putative Nominee, until Tampa votes ...he may not last in the race until the Convention ...we shall see
oh is THAT whatcha meant?
ya shoulda said so **__**
he is the putative Nominee, for a few weeks longer ... if he shows those Tax Returns - I reckon it is goodnight nurse to any fragile socons who at present are stickin with him
the Putative Nominee for 6 more weeks, if he lasts until Tampa
then The Delegates will either ratify him or toss him out
LOL - the putative Nominee, yep - that he is
reckon it will be as far as he gets
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(not enuff Conservatives trust him - he should show all his Tax Returns)
It seems more and more likely that you know absolutely nothing about politics. Mitt is the nominee.
if he is not too weak by Tampa - the Delegates could ratify him, but that is seeming more and more unlikely
Romney might not even last the 6 weeks left until Tampa
we'll see how weak this VETTING makes him
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ur Mitty is really rather foolish to block The Real Deal from speaking at Tampa .... anyway - I think this VETTING will take him out before Tampa
and then he won't have much power left to block anyone **__**
In 2008 Romney is the guy who lost to McCain and McCain is the guy who lost to obama. Nuff said!!
Romney is the Putative Nominee - I really don't think Tampa will ratify him in 6 weeks time
the Left are VETTING him now - let's see all those Tax Returns
I think Romney will be too weak by time of Tampa to be nominated-Delegates will select a FIGHTING, WINNING ticket
I think Romney will be too weak by time of Tampa to be nominated-Delegates will select a FIGHTING, WINNING ticket
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he might become the Nominee if he is not too weak by Tampa - I think that is unlikely though
he might become the Nominee if he is not too weak by Tampa - I think that is unlikely though
he might become the Nominee if he is not too weak by Tampa - I think that is unlikely though
yes INDEED - GAME ON!
especially after she used the first person singular pronoun Saturday in MI when she said "** I ** will not SQUANDER ..... "
the Lefties were very clever to pull that 'your Dad George' on ole EtchASketch - he will find that very hard to answer
he has a history of not being transparent- I think he dares not release his Tax Records because he knows there are certain investments therein that will sink him with socons
Hey, Exodus...what do you think of the statement she made today about not being invited to speak at the convention:
"I’m sure I’m not the only one accepting consequences for calling out both sides of the aisle for spending too much money, putting us on the road to bankruptcy, and engaging in crony capitalism.”
Sounds to me that she just laid down a gauntlet for the Republicans. Game on!
pressure is on Romney from all quarters to release his Tax Returns and prove he is not hiding anything
he should at least emulate his own father George - who released TWELVE years of Tax Returns when he started running for Prez in 1968
LOL - after reading that warning piece from BreitbartFeed, poor ole Mitty might not be in the race at all, once Tampa gets here!
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unlikely to become the Nominee - look at this warning piece, just posted at Breitbart
Romney Needs to Confront His Accusers -- and Save His Campaign http://dlvr.it/1sFxzC
Romney would become the Nominee if he stays in the race until Tampa, and then the Delegates decide he isn't too weak to nominate
Romney could become the Nominee if Delegates don't think he is too weak to defeat the DEM Ticket
Romney could be the Nominee if the Delegates decide to vote for him - however he is weak and weakening further with this lack of transparency even now
Bill Kristol is the latest one to ask him to release his Tax Returns
No I do not expect Romney to lose, but I expect the landscape to be different in 2016 and 2020 and the American people will be willing to support a real conservative by then.
Romney is the nominee.
Take it to the bank.
But your thick head will not allow you to face the truth. Just like a liberal.
It will NEVER happen in a million years. Wake up from your dumb fantasy. Romney is the nominee. Go vote for barry.
Romney will be the Nominee if the Tampa Delegates vote for him. If he is too weak to prevail they will likely OPEN Tampa and vote for a TRUE Conservative winning ticket instead
Romney will be the nominee. One last time: get over it and move. If you don't want to support Romney fine. Then you are a progressive liberal IMO.
BB, perhaps you missed the media scam that Romney won Iowa. The media gave you McCain and now Romney, Obama's favorites to run against. Delegates are not bound at the national level. Read Rule 38 and review the precedent set by a McCain delegate unbound who voted in the first round for Romney.
You act like you know what you are talking about. I am neither a paulbot or a palinbot. I want a consesrvative as a candidate. Can you understand that? You mention 2016? So you expect Romney to lose? Good for you. You are waking up. He will lose. The delegates can do any damned thing they please at the convention. Read the rules. But I doubt they have the guts to do so and will continue the suicide march because of supplicants like you who shrug off the fact that a liberal stole the primary process by buying it. I would be quite happy with Allen West as the nominee or any conservative. Your arrogant assumptions and lumping fellow conservatives as cult members is just stupid.
exodus2011, I completely agree with your post and about Romney picking a Conservative VP and that is not Condolezza Rice.
there is no nominee until Tampa Delegates vote at the end of next month - Romney is the Putative Nominee only, until that time, DEO GRATIAS
I'm not referring to myself here, but to the % of Conservative Americans who don't usually vote in Pres. Elections due to disgust. This poll info is not publicised, but it is the key to Conservatives winning an election.
When McCain/Palin surged past BHO in the Polls after Palin spoke at RNC on sep 3rd 08, it wasn't due to people SWITCHING their vote, rather it was due to a huge surge of new LIKELY Conservative voters coming on board the ticket. McCain alone, couldn't bring them on board because of his RINO history.
Many of those new likely voters who surged on board because of Palin, dropped off again once McCain made the decision to return to DC and sign on to the bailouts after the Financial Crash. It's my view that this is why the crash was instigated in the first place ... and we know what the final election result was.
We are approaching a similar point again, but Romney is a worse Candidate than McCain - at least McCain had served America with distinction in the Military and had a staunch record of fighting the corrupt earmark system.
Romney has a record of not being transparent (destroyed MA admin hard-drives, won't release all Tax Returns), and his word is not trusted ----> Etch-A-Sketch. Also the worst factor of all, he INSPIRED the hated OBAMACARE
There is no doubt that many Americans will still vote for someone they don't trust out of fear of BHO, but I don't think this ABO vote will be sufficient - the Polls are indicating this at present.
Like I have said, these next 6 weeks will give GOP Delegates time to decide what to do in Tampa, if they want America rescued. The DEM ticket will be protected by the LSM, and the only way to overcome this and win, is to run a fully vetted TRUSTED True Conservative, as this will cause a huge SURGE of Conservative voters who would otherwise not vote.
But why hunker down when you haven't even put up a fight? I get everything you said exodus2011, but Romney does not appear to be unreasonable. I mean the man has been in business for years and a Gov. so I don't think he is that unreasonable. I get all of that about repealing Obama care but if the pressure is so thick he will absolutely repeal Obama care. Look, when was the last time any Presidential candidate went before a group where he knew there would be hostility. You would never see Obama specking before a Conservative organization. Well, Romney did and he explained to them why Obama care should be and needs to be repealed. Lets look at one example showing how out of touch Obama is. Everyone knows that social security is going broke, maybe accept democrats, but actuaries and others say it will be out of money very soon and something needs to be done to save the program. Well what does Obama do? He creates a NEW entitlement program, Obama care! Now that is unreasonable however you look at it. I think most see the importance of voting for Romney and I seriously wonder about people like you who do not see the importance. But I pray that you see the light and vote for Romney.
well, we won't likely find out because he would save it for October
Romney will be too weak by time Tampa gets here to be nominated ... I'm glad we have these 6 weeks or so for the Delegates to get a clear picture of what is ahead, if they nominate Romney
If Romney was ahead - Rasmussen (has GOP Patron) would indicate
if the choice for Nov remains what it is today, too many Conservatives will basically hunker down with food and ammo and wait for what is ahead
the best Romney would do is reverse the destructive EOs and then maintain the Status Quo = further and continual debt ceiling hikes
He can't be trusted to repeal Obamacare, the man INSPIRED Obamacare
Romney can't be trusted, PERIOD. remember Etch-A-Sketch?
there would be no reform of govt required to actually rescue Constitutional America, therefore the debt calamity would be guaranteed
I think the Polls will continue to show Romney weakening... and like pollster Pat Caddell said a week or so back 'you don't have to nominate a DEAD MAN!'
I think he knows the polling statistic never reported to the public, but which is the CRUCIAL statistic
ie - the % of Conservative Americans 'unlikely to vote' ... I would say this is large, and growing
Well said, that's the nuts and bolts of it......Romney is spineless that's been determined, but will he at least stop the bleeding because that's about all
we can hope for....This mess will take several cycles to clean up.
I can agree with you on those points...........I was KICKED-OFF C4P for bringing up the eligibility issue's which I believe TRUMP all others a million times over.
Thank you. That is the attitude we need instead of not voting at all. That's giving up and handing another 4 years to this radical.
Exodus, I completely understand where you and so many are coming from. But, just take a look at what Obama has done just in the last few months-Using Executive Privilege (EP) to cover up Fast and Furious, using Executive Order (EO)for illegal immigration, Using EO to eliminate the work requirement for welfare, forcing Catholic led organizations to provide contraceptives, illegal cabinet appointments and the list goes on and on. So regardless of the differences that we have with Romney, which I got over a few months ago, we all need to see that with another four years of Obama our country will be unrecognizable. So while I appreciate the ABO vote it truly does go deeper than that. Its really about saving the country that we know for us and our children. Really at this point and I do believe that Romney loves this Country and he will respect its laws and institutions and I really believe that he is more Conservative than John McCain. We will deal with the rest of our differences when Romney is elected.
Moreover, I do think that Romney is ahead. What you need to remember and guard against are these polls that are design to influence your vote and keep you frustrated and dispirited. You have to be savvy enough to read the fine print of these polls and look for the make-up of the group. In the recent Washington Post poll the samples included 9% more democrats than republicans and in that poll Romney was tied with Obama. So what that says is that even with polling more democrats than republicans the result is a tie. So if the poll was conducted the right way with 50/50 spit then I suspect that Romney would be ahead. So while I respect those who want ABO, it is far greater than that.
ABSOLUTELY! I for one choose to live and fight another day!
Were NOT voting for romney, we are voting against obama!
You're preaching to the choir my friend... I couldn't agree with you more. I've never known a U.S. President who deserves impeachment AND prison more than him.
Who says we don't have a candidate that can't win? The election has not taken place yet. There is no way that true Conservatives are going to stay home from voting. NO way. They will at least cast a vote to get rid of nobama. And just who says the electoral vote will go to nobama now? Some stupid polls that are skewed? It's only July so maybe we should just give up and go home because we are not where we should be in the polls. What a joke you people are.
The nomination is not official. Fine. Sounds like semantics to me because he will get the nomination and you know it. And I guarantee Sarah backs Romney. Mark it down.
It has nothing to do with my point of view. It has to do with you and your ilk are the very first to complain about things in this country and you do nothing about it because you refuse to vote. Sickening.
Heartland Conservatives will not go to the Polls for someone they don't trust = Romneycare
Tampa will dump the LOSER and give us a winning TRUE CONSERVATIVE Ticket, whom Conservatives will RAGE at the Polls for
nope I don't think so
Axel has stuff that will sink Romney - he will be too weak by Tampa time to be ratified
Another one stuck in love with Palin. The truth hurts whether you like it or not. Mitt will be the nominee. The polls mean zero in July.
Romney can win if people go out and vote for him. That's how it works. If conservative whiners wouldn't have stayed home in 08, we would have won and would have had Gov Sarah Palin in the White House.
We can only see today but God sees way down the road. If it was God's will for Gov. Palin to be on the Republican ticket, she would have been. People are trying to change God's will and you can't change what God determines.
There are few of us who have chosen not to vote. We simply arn't willing to give up yet that we have only those two choices.
And you do not have the right to call us "idiots" just because we do not see your point of view.
Yes, I think the country has done better under RINOs than liberals, and it would do better under Romney than it would under more years of Obama. But choosing between one evil and another evil is still choosing to vote for evil. We can do better than that.
If it were not for Sarah being here for such a time as this, we would just vote for Romney and go back to sleep for another four years and just complain to our friends about the stupid government. But she's pushed the bar too high for that. It isn't enough anymore. When she gives up, so will I.
We are not the ones who are giving up, AZ. We are still willing to fight for sudden and relentless reform while many have laid down their arms in surrender already.
Yeah, how many of us said the same thing in 2008..."never again will be have a RINO like McCain to vote for"? How many of us say that every year?
And yes, I believe in miracles too.
But it's different when you all tell us that we have to vote for Romney or our country will be ruined with four more years of Obama? That's not alarmism?
To be sure, I agree our country can't afford Obama for another four years. But I don't think we can afford Romney either.
For another month, we are not limited to only those two choices except in the minds of the media and GOPe who count it as a done deal and have brainwashed too many of us into believing that we can't change it. And with that resignation, yes, it will be impossible to change it. And that's the saddest thing there is.
Nope, we can't wait. We need sudden and relentless reform and Romney won't do it. He doesn't INTEND to do it. And the GOP may take over the Senate and keep the House, but it will not be taken over by CONSERVATIVES who will push for that sudden and relentless reform. We have too many Collins, and Murkeys, and Boehners, and Scott Browns, ad nauseum...all in leadership positions and all who still don't want to offend Democrats or rock the boat. And we're talking about MAJOR rocking the boat that needs done.
The tea party and conservatives have power, lots of it...to hold Romney's feet to the fire but not to push for a different nominee? If we can hold anyone's feet to the fire, why can't we do it now? Why do we just resign ourselves to somehow fighting a mushy good old boy president who has nothing but contempt for us for another four years? Do you know how fatiguing that will be? And how are we going to do it when they don't listen to us NOW when they need our votes?
We talk about the future all the time. Well, 2012 isn't the time to have sudden and relentless reform. If Romney wins, then probably 2016 won't be the time for sudden and relentless reform either. Well, maybe by 2020? C'mon, the "future" of our country is NOW, not in some undefined time that keeps being pushed back. In 2020, we'll still be told that the GOPe nominee at the time is still better than the liberal, and we can't rock the boat...not this year at least.
We've got a month to still fight for a better candidate but some here won't bother...it's easier to accept "what we have". This is not an American virtue to just resign ourselves to what we were given. Americans always had a "can-do" attitude, and they've always done it. Has that changed?
How are we going to get rid of Obama if we don't have a candidate who can win? Many millions of conservatives and independents who would have voted for a true conservative will simply stay home on election day. Romney is barely tied in some polls with Obama now, and in many cases is behind, and that doesn't even consider the ones who are staying home. The electoral vote would go to Obama if the election were held now. Is Mitt going to pull it off? Not unless he can convince the electorate that he will seriously reform what has been done the last four years.
The delegates at the convention are usually serious party members, and they will not want to see their party going down in defeat. He would be political suicide if his numbers do not change. Mitt threatens our ability to defeat Obama and should be replaced with a stronger candidate. None of the delegates are bound to him and can still use some common sense at the convention.
That's all some of us are saying...the nomination isn't official yet and things can turn on a dime in one month. It is NOT yet between Obama and Romney, and I will not support Romney until it is. I agree it looks like he will be our nominee but it isn't guaranteed.
Sarah is STILL saying that in November it will be the party of big government vs the party of freedom. She is STILL saying that, as of last night. She is not the hopeless dreamer some of you accuse us of being...she is one of the most politically astute people I know. When she gives up and just accepts Romney, I will too, not a minute before.
She knows we need sudden and relentless reform. The American people know we need that sudden and relentless reform. We arn't going to get it with Romney either.
No, you are incorrect, He is the nominee because he has more than the required number of delegates required. No one else does...
It matters not what the media thinks or says.
lol.. You really wish this would happen don't you... You are that obsessed... First there was Invasion of the Paul Bots 1, Now it's the Invasion of the Body Snatchers for Palin II...
Sarah has plenty of genuine support here, me included. You are not helping your case in the least. This has been thoroughly discussed for months here, we have been through all that. For many here she was our first choice. What I don't need, and I speak for myself , is you three obsessive Palin fanatics trying to tell me which way the sun rises.. I already know, I see it happen quite often matter of fact.
Hey Sarah did not enter into the primaries. It was her decision. Maybe she is the best person for the job but she declined to apply for it. And I do not believe she could win the job NOW.. I really don't think she could have ever won this cycle. She stayed out for a reason, she probably knows far more about it than you do..
2016 or 2020 that is a different story.
Why don't you 3 go home, I am sure C4P misses you terribly...
.. except the person giving the warnings about the Debt Crisis is not a *DC expert* of the kind you are referring to - it is someone with unquestioned credibility
listen to her Indianola Speech where she introduced Sudden and Relentless Reform for the 1st time
she has warned that if the America does not REFORM it's govt outside forces will do it for them - these forces are holding back..waiting, to see what happens in Nov
the DEM ticket will lose in a landslide you're right, but that's because Tampa will nominate the Freedom Ticket who will maximise Conservative Turnout to the Nov Polls, something the loser Romney would never be able to do
but that will become more and more clear as Tampa approaches
OH OH Oh ,,, where have I heard that crap before,,.. Like the leftist , we HAVE to pass this stimulus NOW or the world will cease to exist tomorrow..
The world is much more resilient than that. So your way is our ONLY hope.. I get it.. Its a crisis and your way is the only way to save us all.
One of my favorite lines of all time. The previously famous AlGore playing Southern Baptist Preacher said " They played on our Fears!"
America can't wait you say.. America was made to wait. That's what it does .
Our problem now is we got a lying narcissistic POS in the White House that won't wait and things are getting all out of hand.
Personally I think the Marxist guy is gonna lose in a landslide.. His support is way softer than the MSM is letting on. But that is jmo.. If you want to believe the so called "polls" that is your prerogative.
You are entitled to your opinion as well , just don't think you and your 2 friends from C4P can drop in and try to tell me what color the sky is..
I can see just fine,
you think America will survive without Govt Reform for another term?
yep - analysis - I am looking at the Polls, seeing Romney behind, seeing him unable to win over enuff Conservs to vote for lesser of two evils
and Axelrod will weaken him even more - his lack of transparency will not go down well with Conservs who already don't trust him
we know he destroyed his Admin Harddrives (not erased them, DESTROYED them)
and he is unwilling to release his Tax Returns from last decade
Straight forward analysis according to who? You?
I don't buy your analysis or your strategy... and as much as I like Sarah I do not think she would win this election cycle.. She has more work to do before that can happen.
When the time comes she will have my vote, it is not her time yet.
Nope, there is no nominee until the Tampa Delegates vote late Aug
I hardly think they will vote for Romney if he is so weak by then he's a sure loser - look how weak he is now! He should be easily beating The Marxist, but not enuff Conservatives are on board, willing to support someone they don't trust
Delegates at Tampa will nominate a True Conservative Freedom Ticket - Palin/West, a ticket sure to demolish the DEMs bcs it will maximise Conservative turnout at the Polls
Would you still support Romney as the nominee prior to the convention if he does something really stupid or something is found out about him which causes him to tank in the polls? Would you still cling to him even if he is not yet the official nominee and he can still be replaced?
You may wish to familiarize yourself with my thousands of posts before calling me a liberal, which seems about all you can do, name call.
Will never happen in a million years. Romney is the nominee. Get over it or used to it. It's all we have now.
OK. I get very fired up when I see my country being systematically destroyed especially from within.
Remember last election when one of McCain's top staffers said they would rather loose "looking respectfull" rather than win by throwing dirt at Obama?
These same worthless establishment aids are working for Romney..... I beleive they are sincere about this.
not at all
I think the circumstances will be clear by the time Tampa arrives, and the Delegates will open the Convention and nominate a winning TRUE CONSERVATIVE ticket, who will be able to maximise Conservative Turnout in Nov
the Delegates will put the country's survival ahead of Romney's feelings/ambition
Obama not being impeached is treasonous. It's your ilk that accepts that this cannot be done, so get off your high horse, rather the horn of your pet unicorn. You are being played for a sucker.
yes, there are many who will settle for someone they can't trust so they don't get The Marxist again
but that ABO vote is limited
why isn't Romney way ahead of The marxist right now?
because he is Obama-lite and many Conservatives see no hope for America being restored if Romney is the Nominee
there is an alternative - I hardly think the GOP Delegates will ratify Romney as the Nominee if it is clear by Tampa that the guy is a sure LOSER
they will open the Consvention
That's your opinion, and you have every right to it. It's shared by most folks, but there are some folks who disagree, and should be allowed to do so without having names called. I'm trying to be fair- I don't like to see any of us call names to each other, that's all I'm saying.
Is Romney the official nominee? When did you start supporting him? Probably in 2008 is my guess.
nope - it is a straightforwadr analysis of how things are
we see from the Polls that Romney is weak and getting weaker
the good thing is, there is time before Tampa
the Delegates won't ratify a DEAD MAN - they will open the Convention and nominate a True Conservative Ticket who will demolish the Dems because Conservatives will RAGE at The Polls
that would be fine if America could afford to wait 4 more years before the Govt is reformed
but the debt crisis is such that America can't wait
No one dislikes johnny mac more than me and Romney is just one step better than johnny. They both are still 1000X better than this dictator, racist, muslim liberal in office. Romney winning is step one. You not voting is treasonous IMO.
No easy here. I'm tired of these idiots who refuse to vote because Romney is not what they want him to be. That's voting for nobama in my book.
Did you vote for McCain? The media did not pick him? Remember him, he was the guy toting his own bags through airports while Mittens was spending 65 million (and still went down to defeat). The media didn't report a faux Romney victory in Iowa, to get the ball rolling?
If we will cease to exist with another Obama term (the odds being 50/50 he will serve a second term) then we don't deserve to stand as a nation. How about this ... Impeach the SOB!!!!! He is a criminal least for which his fraud of an obviously forged birth certificate let alone stolen SS number. Obama's crimes must be ajudicated and hopefully his sorry rear end tossed into prison.
No media has ever picked whom I voted for. EVER. These are the cards we are dealt with and Romney is better than barry any freaking day of the week. Don't vote. You are part of the freaking problem.
I agree with you to a point. Romney has my vote... but not my heart. I think and hope that all conservative and concerned Americans will turn out to vote this monster out of office. I too am still stinging from the GOP's crazy notion that Romney was the best candidate of the bunch. But BO has to go and many people will have to hold their nose to vote for him (just like in 2008 with McCain).
As it stands, we can vote in a solid (conservative, Constitution-loving, lawful, small government, flat/fair tax, Tea Party-loving) President in 2016. For 2012, we just have to dump Obama... or 2016 will never get here.
What conspiracy theories? You think the country has done any better under RINOs than liberals? Go ahead, let the media continue to pick your candidate, especially one suitable to Chris Matthews, George Soros, Jimmy Carter, et al, and who is already on the defensive and plays only paddycake with liberals when he destroys conservatives.
Ok Mitt is not the official nominee. Keep going on with your conspiracy theory crap and all the rest. I hate the rinos as much as the communist liberals but do we give up like you? No way. Why don't you move the hell out of the country so you can find your utopia. One less schmuck to deal with.
Understood, but you will never get your country back if it tosses back and forth between Plutocrat RINOs and liberal Marxists. They are peas in a pod. Look what's happened since Reagan with Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain (who forfeited to Obama), and now Romney. The GOPe is public enemy number 1, they are the enablers of all of this. Obama should have been impeached in 2010 when the Republicans took control of the House. And why not? Because the GOPe is afraid of their own shadow. Look even now, Obama is accusing Romney of being a felon, when Obama has committed a list of same, and not a peep out of the pathetic Romney campaign about Obama's crimes. Further, Romney is not yet the official nominee. And I believe in miracles.
I'll say one last time: I am not a Romney fan but that is the cards we are dealt. We need to get rid of nobama first and foremost. Then take back the Senate and keep the House and then hold Romney accountable and govern like a Conservative. Nothing of this will happen if people don't vote or vote for the dictator in chief. I want my damn freaking country back.
Z, take a look at this:
"A choice between Satan and Beelzebub," by Allen Keyes. He recognized the evil of Obama while running against him for Senate. He shares Exodus's view on Romney, and I would say, a lot of other conservatives do, too.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/a-choice-between-satan-and-beelzebub/
Nice try but your defeatist schtick is not going to work here.. Sarah is great but this is not her time yet. You can continue the sore loser bit or do something to get the current pos out of the White House.. It's your vote.. use it wisely..
Well then you don't vote for Mitt and that's like voting for that muslim piece of crap. You are part of the problem.
I agree MaxineCA! Some seem to think that this is just another election when this election is the most important election of our lifetime. I mean a Marxist verses a Capitalist, I'll take the Capitalist anytime!
So are you saying you would be OK with another Obama term? Every conservative better get their butts out to vote against Obama - we all will be holding our noses along the way. That's just the way it is, and we don't like it, but we all know that's the only choice we have or Obama gets another term, and we lose our country.
you are describing the *AnyoneButObama* vote (ABO) which is huge, but it won't be large enough
Romney provides nothing to vote FOR only something to vote AGAINST
most activists online would be ABO, but the Conservative Heartland will not rage at the Polls for Obama-Lite
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