I voted for Sarah Palin in 2008....NOT RINO McCain. I will vote for Paul Ryan in 2012.....NOT for RINO Romney.
I just listened to the Gov's interview on Faux News - while I am always impressed with her and generally support most of her issues - two things immediately came to mind after her answer to Breem about supporting the GOPE ticket:
1. She stated in one of her most outstanding speeches that it was not enough to change up the team if the uniform stayed the same - I see GOPE, PPC & CC in both of these losers on the GOP ticket - same uniform, same team----- I will vote downstream for Tea Partiers but will not vote for either D or R for Prez unless the R is the Gov...................
2. She also stated several times in various interviews, etc. over the past couple of years that one should never put their full faith & trust in any politician because one will be disappointed...so true....
while I would crawl over broken glass, etc. to vote for her again should she be asked to become the nominee in Tampa Bay and do everything I can to get her elected President....
I am taking off the rose colored glasses and asking why she is supporting 'wholeheartedly" what she has said needs to be cleaned out of the jacuzzi/swamp in DC....
yeah, yeah, yeah, I get the ABO but I don't see where the two R's are going to do anything except carry on as usual, except taking us over the cliff at 60 MPH instead of 150 MPH that the fraud intends. The GOPE is not doing one damm thing to stop anything going on in DC - no blockage of funding, no writing the repeal law of Fraudcare.............. are they so corrupt that they really don't give a damm about any of us? Evidently that Global One World Order Initiative is true - there really is only one party in this country - they just Identify by R or D....................................
Good to see you posting Susie. I am as disappointed as you are. However, I believe Sarah is taking a longer term view because she analysed all of the circumstances prior to Oct. 5th. She will build the base in Congress and among the populace in order to make a future run when she can achieve what must be done. Take care.
Hi susiepuma? How the heck are you doing?
In response to your question, go back and read the Governor's FB note from last night:
In the last three paragraphs, she writes:
Candidate Obama promised to unite all America, but President Obama has cynically divided us again and again in his efforts to win reelection by playing identity politics and class warfare and pitting one group against another.
Candidate Obama promised us a “fundamentally transformed” America, and that is the only promise he’s delivered on. We can see now what his idea of “hope” is. Now we want change. He has failed to lead, so We the People must lead. And our leadership starts at the ballot box on November 6th.
Please continue to focus on the presidential race and on helping Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan, but it’s also imperative that we get involved in the nation’s important House and Senate races. These candidates need our help to ensure that our next president has a responsible and ethical Congress that actually gets things done for America. Now on to November!
The Governor has taken the long view:
- Defeat Obama / Biden.
- Help elect common sense constitutional conservatives to the House and Senate, who have the back bone to stand up to the GOPe and in so doing help Republicans hold the House and regain control of the Senate.
- After the election, be in the face of the Romney administration, working with select Representatives in the House and Senators in the Senate to push for "sudden and relentless reform."
- If the Romney administration ends up being "business as usual," work to defeat the Romney administration in 2016.
(This is supposition on my part, but we all know that the Governor has no qualms in taking on her own party, if that is what is required.)
The Governor is under no illusions as to who Romney is and that while Ryan is a good man, and yes he is an attractive candidate, he does not have the back bone to buck the GOPe, which is one of the reasons he was selected to be Romney's running mate.
Simply put, his role is to "bring along the base," which is going to be even harder to do, given the following:
Romney seeks distance from Ryan's budget plans
Romney aides, echoing talking points they circulated to party leaders and operatives, praised Ryan's budget work, but sought to draw a distinction between his ideas and Romney's.
"Gov. Romney is at the top of the ticket," Romney spokesman Kevin Madden told reporters Sunday. "And Gov. Romney's vision for the country is something that Congressman Ryan supports."
On CNN, Romney senior adviser Ed Gillespie said Romney would have signed Ryan's proposed austere budget if it landed on his desk as president. But he also emphasized that Romney would "be putting forward his own budget" if he wins the election.
"Austere?!" The House budget simply proposes to reduce the rate of growth in spending, such that real spending continues to grow and does not call for the budget to be balanced for 24 years.
So, while the Governor was on Shannon Bream's defending Paul Ryan and saying that people would have his back, the Romney/Ryan ticket was doing the "Romney shuffle" in an effort to avoid the negative "attacks" being launched by the Democrats against the House Budget, instead of tackling the issue head on.
No wonder the Governor's strategy is to campaign independently of the Romney campaign.
P.S. What is interesting is that while the Romney campaign is calling the House budget proposal "austere," Romney has promised to balance the budget in eight to ten years. Simply put, Romney is "deflecting."
Hate to say it but I agree with those who doubt
palin will be speaking at the Convention. I could believe that they might throw her some off time/minimal role or place such restrictions on what she could say that she would decline. I could believe that they're stretching it out because they know her supporters are going to be unhappy and still may withhold money.
If that happens there will be no way she campaigns with the ticket. The GOP will encourage her to go out and cheerlead to drum up the vote.
"She goes on to say that when she was thrust in that spotlight that she didn’t have a lot of support from people in the McCain campaign to defender her and explain what her record was all about because they were protecting their own future interests. " Nothing says what the establishment is all about more than that to have people from your campaign just worrying about their own interest kudos to Palin for calling them out, the unfortunate thing is that some of the people that worked on the McCain campaign are working with Romney.
This was the year for Sarah Palin and she chose not to run. Some day I hope she writes a book to explain precisely why. It remains a mystery.
she said God , Family, Country in that order in her life. she still is young, has a young family, she has been unfairly attacked, but her kids? its still going on, she is right mccains people never defended her, nobody did, they still aren't.we know all that has been said. I would have loved to see her run, but can understand it, I am so happy she is working on these downtickets. which is very much needed .
Nothing but class from Palin. All RINO's do is end up looking like ungrateful jackasses-- like the closet Dems they are.
Gov.Palin are Great, but if we are speaking about enthusiasm of TEA and conservatives for Rmoneytax/Ryan, then
It is more like have enthusiasm for dead parrot ( Yes, Norwegian Blue, fine Plumage, but dead, even 10000 Volts do not wake it )
Hate to break it to folks, but the Governor will not be invited to speak at the convention.
FYI - if people want to watch the entire interview, go here:
Video: Gov. Sarah Palin appeared with Fox News’ Shannon Bream Aug. 12, 2012
Instead, she will be continuing to do what she said she was going to do in her email response to Peter Boyer:
Palin is keeping the dates open in late August, just in case. In any event, she says, she plans to be politically active between now and November, starting with a Michigan Tea Party appearance, sponsored by Americans for Prosperity. “No matter the Romney campaign strategy,” she says, “I intend to do all I can to join others in motivating the grassroots made up of independents and constitutional conservatives who can replace Barack Obama at the ballot box.”
Curious, if the italicized text is an e-mail response from Gov. Palin, why is it written in the third person?
Because I italicized the whole paragraph.
The quote from the email reads:
"No matter the Romney campaign strategy," she says, "I intend to do all I can to join others in motivating the grassroots made up of independents and constitutional conservatives who can replace Barack Obama at the ballot box."
Actually I think it is you who are wrong, I never stated that Boyer "misquoted" Palin, I stated that the quote attributed to her is lacking context, work on those reading comprehension skills.
Improvise, Adapt, Overcome. I am going to write that motto down and tack it to my bulletin board. I love it. Thanks.
Some additional thoughts:
- If the RNC and Romney campaign allow her to give a speech which reflects what she wrote in her FB note, then she will be speaking at the convention.
- If the RNC and the Romney campaign insists that she give a speech that is a really hard sell of Romney, then she will not be speaking at the convention.
Based on everything that has transpired, the Boyer article, the interviews, the FB note and the timing, my gut tells me that the RNC and the Romney campaign will not allow her to give the speech that she wanted to give, and as such she will not be speaking at the convention.
Keep in mind that Ed Gillespie is a special adviser to the Romney campaign. He is very close to Karl Rove and the Bush family. He was the campaign manager for Chris Christie when he was running against John Corzine to be the next New Jersey Governor. Sarah Palin was supposed to appear at a number of rallies with Christie, but Gillespie persuaded Christie to dis-invite Sarah Palin. She ended up doing a robo call at the request of an independent group in support of Christie.
So even though the second option would seem totally idiotic, one can foresee the possibility of Gillespie persuading Romney that if Palin is not prepared to give a really hard sell of Romney speech, that they do not need and that the polling data suggests that not having attend and speak at the convention would not hurt the campaign, even though the direct opposite would be the result.
- The Romney campaign is driven by the numbers.
They want to see what is the response to the Ryan announcement before they make their next move.
Do they still have a problem with the base? How are they doing with right of center and independent conservative voters who are not registered Republican, but that the Romney / Ryan need to come out in the fall for the ticket to win?
Governor Palin can help with these two demographics. If Ryan has solved the campaign's problem with the right of center and independent conservatives, then it is quite possible that Gillespie will persuade Romney that he does not need to have Sarah Palin speak at the convention for the reasons enunciated above. If Ryan has not solved the campaign's problem with that demographic, then the Romney campaign would be fools not to agree to have Sarah Palin speak at the convention and give a speech based on her FB note.
What is truly impressive is that despite all the crap that the Romney campaign and the GOPe has thrown at the Governor, along with the GOPe not having her back, she gave the interview that she gave.
I make this point, because if she was motivated by self-interest, she could have:
- Simply issued a short tweet last night congratulating Romney on selecting Ryan and
- Phrased her answers in today's interview in such a way so as to make it very difficult for the Romney/Ryan ticket to gain any real traction with the demographic of voters that they need and which she not only speaks to, but also represents, being the millions of right of center and independent conservative voters who withdrew their support from the Republican party in 2006, but came out in 2010 when Sarah Palin and the TEA Party movement were leading the charge.
In fact, between her FB note of last night and her interview of today she did the direct opposite.
Talk about class and being true to her stated mission.
That is why so many of us stand with Sarah Palin.
Sorry, in this instance you are wrong.
Peter Boyer has interviewed the Governor in the past.
Peter Boyer has been on Stephen Bannon's show Victory Sessions.
People can disregard what Boyer wrote and the email that he quoted if they want too, but that would be a mistake.
Personally, I would not stake anything of any value on a Daily Beast article, particularly considering the entire article lacks any kind of context for quotes attributed to an email from the Governor and Boyer presents a lot of conjecture/extrapolation through out the piece. You are aware that the Daily Beast is the online version of Newsweek (hardly a source of any credibility in itself)? Not to mention their "motto" in their logo of "Read this, skip that" accurately depicts their approach to journalistic integrity and how they "engineer" the content of what they present.
As to the candidate we have in Romney, well suffice it to say, he is what we have to go with. He was not even my fourth or fifth choice for a candidate, in November we here in Montana will have a choice between three candidates (we do have a write-in option on all ballots for every race) Romney, Johnson, or Obama. As to who speaks or doesn't speak at the GOP convention has no bearing on how I vote, likewise in regards to who does, or doesn't endorse a candidate, I don't take "marching orders" from anyone any longer (I haven't since mustering out of the Corps in '83) and in my view, anyone who does is a mindless drone that has no business casting a ballot, but that's just my opinion.
In the end as far as whether Gov.Palin has or hasn't "endorsed" the Romney/Ryan, she has come out and stated her support, I suspect their are others she would have preferred (like many of us) but she strikes me as being one of those that holds the view of, "this is what we have got, lets make the best of it". In a purely Leatherneck view of weaponry, we were the "redheaded step-child" of military procurement, so we made the best use of what we had at hand, "Improvise, Adapt, Overcome", words to live by.
I have the feeling you are right. Back in 1976, after nominating Ford, the Convention asked Reagan to say a few words. Of the cuff, he made a short speech that convinced them that they had nominated the wrong man. In 1980, Ford would wish he had that decision to do over again.
People are entitled to their opinion, but it was pretty obvious from what she said when asked if she would be stumping for the Romney/Ryan ticket.
She made it clear. She said that when she decided not to run that she would be a help mate.
She went on to say that she was stepping back to allow new voices to be heard, and that she would be be speaking independently around the country to right of center and independent conservative voters.
I think she'll be there John.
Not that they will all be watching but there are at least 3-4 million vocal supporters ( or more) that would be very disappointed if she werent a speaker.
Not only will there be disappointed supporters, but there will undoubtedly be PO'd supporters that will not send a penny to the GOP if she does not speak.
I think she'll be there John.
Not going to happen. She will not be speaking at the convention.
Listen carefully to the answer she gave when she was asked whether she would be speaking on the stump with the Romney/Ryan ticket.
Now I could be wrong, but based on the answer she gave, it was pretty clear to me that she will not be speaking at the convention.
See the following comment in which I layout what I believe is going on.
You may also find the follow up discussion to that comment of some benefit.
No. I had been paying very close attention to this issue, because the resolution, would be very telling as to how the campaign would unfold and therefore was able to draw the appropriate conclusions.
Victim? LOL read her statement that was just released:
Governor Palin's Statement On The RNC
So, I was right. Hmm .... it will be interesting to see how people respond, but it is pretty clear to me what is going on.
Its on the C4P top threads and also on greta wire. you cant miss it.
Just in case
Hey John, Maybe you were right? Given the newest statement just released?
I still find it very hard to believe, as - hubby and I were discussing this, and no-one has worked harder than Gov Palin over the past four years.
well for one, she has stated we need to get rid of obama. going around making statements that she won't be speaking, when she has already stated his people meaning romneys, had contacted her people back a couple weeks ago now. hopefully they all could come to a agreement. i love to see her speak. but to make it sound like she has been ignored or pushed aside ,
it makes her sound like a victim, she is not ,she is so strong and resolute , she knows what she is doing for her country.
How is it a disservice to speak what I believe to be the truth?
Also, by raising the issue, it gives people an opportunity to let their voices be heard, so that the RNC and Romney campaign will understand that denying her an opportunity to speak at the convention before a nationally televised audience without being told what to say would be one of the dumbest things that the RNC and Romney campaign could do if Romney wants to win this election.
P.S. I suspect the problem is that she will not "shill for Romney," but rather wants to give a speech which reflects what she said in her FB note. Unfortunately, that does not fit with the stated theme of the convention, which is to "sell Romney really hard."
I mean let's get real, can you imagine that she would be able to give the speech that Paul Ryan gave earlier today when he introduced Mitt Romney to the audience in North Carolina? She is not going to do or say something that she does not believe.
P.P.S. Look, I could be all wet. Perhaps the two camps have come to terms, but after listening to the answer she gave, it is pretty clear to me that she will not be speaking at the convention and she will definitely not be stumping for the Romney/Ryan campaign as a surrogate, nor appearing with them at any events.
I sincerely hope you are mistaken. Many, such as those who post at sites we both frequent, may not be able to move past such an exclusion.
Myself, and my family-- we feel we HAVE to do whatever necessary to win this election.
last time she said his people were talking with her people at her pac. there have only been 17 speakers named so far. IMO you do her a disservice by continuing to say she won't be asked, as if she should be avoided.
LM*O! She shills like crazy for the GOPE machine and yet they're going to dump all over her? Na. Don't believe it myself. She'll be a surprise speaker or something like that. Even Romney realises he has to give all those 'conservative' hockey mums something to cheer for. After all, its only fair for him and his friends to keep their end of the quid pro quo for all the shilling she's done for the godless RINO establishment in the past couple of years. Nah! Palin will be there Frank. Don't you go fretting now my man.
She is not shilling.
She has made her concerns known about both Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan in the past.
These sort of responses are to be expected from people who have zero respect for Sarah Palin and can't see the truth.
She says that it is good first step, but that it does not go far enough in pushing for a balance budget.
Simply put, she supports Ryan's proposed medicare reforms as part of an overall effort to balance the budget as quickly as possible. In that regard, she supports what Paul proposed, i.e to balance the budget within 3 years, not the 8-10 years as Romney proposes, or the 24 years as Ryan proposes.
I am curious, does she speak well of the Ryan plan, avoid the details, or speak as though it is thoroughly inadequate? I really haven't heard her comment on it.
I don't claim to be a Palin expert, so you may very well be correct. She may simply be a diplomatic rebel, who desires to overthrow the power structure in D.C.
Listen to the speech that she gave in Indianola, Iowa on September 3, 2011, the speech that she gave last fall while attending a fund raising event for the Republican Florida Party, the Right On Line speech, the speech that she gave in support of Cruz and the speech that she recently gave in support of Steelman.
Go read her FB endorsements of Murdoch, Cruz, Fischer, Steelman, Adams et al.
Then read this:
I disagree with your statements that Palin doesn't "hammer on republicans" when they are wrong. But the reality is that America has only two viable political parties at this time. The Democrats have been taken over by the radical left and represent an existential threat to our country. The leftist Democrats must be defeated. After that there will be plenty of time to go after the establishment Republicans.
I like Sarah Palin well enough, but she is a GOP pundit. She doesn't go out and hammer on republicans when they are wrong. She is not a rebel in the sense that she has a specific cause, and she won't let anyone get away with going against it. When she criticizes the right, it is very mild at best.
I don't knock her for this, she is simply playing the role that she has chosen. She is making a living doing it as well. Nothing wrong with that. If she wanted to establish herself as an full on anti establishment individual, then she would have stayed away from McCain after the 08 run. If she was continually knocking down the establishment, she wouldn't have the air time and the money that comes from it.
I am already there after what they did, and are still doing, to the RP delegates. RP got more delegates than any candidate other than Romney, and has not backed out, yet they won't even give him 15 minutes. That is how it goes. The establishment GOP is ramrodding Romney through.
I take it that you didn't follow the delegate race situations, and all the back door dirty deals made with the GOP from state to state. There is a lot to it, and my guess is that you don't really care, so I won't go into it. Paul did win a plurality of states that, according to the GOP rules, gave him an automatic speaking spot. He was booted out regardless of the rule. Either that, or they changed the rules to keep him out. I don't really remember.
The point is, that when you watch massive fraud and dirty tricks enacted by the establishment GOP, you tend to lose your willingness to support them, and it doesn't give you a warm fuzzy.
There is plenty of testimony, and video proof of massive fraud. You can find it if you want to. There are even some court battles, because the GOP broke the law in some states, and on a national basis.
What purpose does giving RP time at the convention serve? The establishment isn't ramrodding him through, he got the necessary delegates, the end. RP didn't, so why should he be ENTITLED to a spot? Santorum got a spot, but why's that? Because he had the second most delegates, and was runner up. Besides, Rand is speaking, and he's a far better, more coherent, CONSERVATIVE speaker.