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THE PEACE OF ALLAH TO YOU & ALL NON MUSLIMS
Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that they are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.
Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."
Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."
Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."
Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).
Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)
Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"
Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.
Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter." This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.
Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord. Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similitude. Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners," Those who reject Allah are to be subdued in battle. The verse goes on to say the only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is in order to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test. "But if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost."
Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"
Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.
Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' in verse 16.
Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of Peace, indeed! This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist."
Quran (61:10-12) - "O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty?- That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity." This verse was given in battle. It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.
Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.
God promised that he would restore the Jews to the land of Israel according to Ezekiel 36-39. The Jews were given back their homeland through the San Remo resolution of 1920 which divvied up the Ottoman Empire. The Arab's received the lions share of the portion(s) by the way; including Syria (now divided between Syria and Lebanon), Mesopotamia and all of Arabia. The resolution also included the Balfour Declaration, written by England's Lord Balfour in 1917. The declaration called for "the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people." The San Remo resolution has been called Israel's "Magna Carta." Israel became a nation once again in 1948. All of this is by God's design and was fullfilled according to God's promise. God has not rejected and disowned His people. [Romans 11:3] But a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written, "THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION, HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB." [Romans 11:25-26]
Jews who receive Christ as their personal Savior become part of the family of God through faith in Christ. Paul the Apostle in the New Testament was a devout Jew who was also a Pharisee (a Jewish religous scholar) who converted to Christianity after Christ appeared to him on the road to Damascus. [Acts 9] Unbelieving Jews i.e. those who reject Jesus Christ as the Messiah will die in their sins. "And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again." [Romans 11:23]
Mosab Yousef may be a Christian but he and his fellow Arabs don't belong in Palestine because Palestine was given to the Jews according to the San Remo resolution of 1920. Israel has a right to exist as a nation. God himself gave the land back to the Jews (from exile) and "the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable." [Romans 11:29] Therefore, if Mosab Yousef is calling for the elimination of Israel he is fighting against God and as we know fighting against God is futile. Mosab Yousef is wrong in his effort to try and force Jews from the land of Israel and he needs to repent of his error.
The Bible says this about Israel. God will "bless those who bless you and will curse those who curse you." [Genesis 12:3] The Bible also says in Psalms 122:6 "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: "May they prosper who love you." Jesus Christ himself was born through the lineage of King David (Joseph's side). Jesus Christ loves the Jews just as he loves all mankind. The reason Christ came to the Earth was in order to save mankind from their sins. Jews need Jesus just like everyone else needs Jesus. Mosab Yousef needs to come clean and he also needs to get on the right side of history. Israel isn't going anywhere because God gave the Jews the land of Israel as their possession. Mosab Yousef needs to quit fighting against Israel. Because in reality he is really fighting against God in doing so. I can't make it any plainer than that. Hopefully he'll get the message. Christians need to reach out to him and show him the error of his ways. Hopefully it's not too late. It almost sounds like he is reverting back to his pre-Christian way of life. That would be sad indeed if it's true. Maybe his dad has more influence on him than he'd like to admit.
Michael, the October 2011 video referenced above indicates to me that he has already seen the error of his ways.
How about Mosab's speech at the Deustcher Israel Kongress in October of 2011, six months after the controversy with Shoebat?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN0Zb7ody_U
Isn’t it possible that his views are changing/maturing over time? What has he written or said since October 2011 that would put him in the “foe” camp?
A very important book, Geert Wilders “Marked for Death” is an excellent expose of Islam as it penetrates the West – it should be required reading for every entering college freshman, and mandatory memorization for all college faculty! However, if Wilders is marked for death because of what he has said and written, then Mosab doubly so, because he has not only disrespected Islam, he is also an apostate.
I think Walid Shoebat has valuable insights on Islam and Christian eschatology, but I think he over-reacted in the May 2011 incidents, and I found Mosab’s responses to Shoebat considerably more graceful.
Mosab Yousef is an example of someone who is anti-terrorism. Martin Luther King was also against political violence. He's just trying to advance his agenda non-violently.
This is someone that has received the seed, that is the Word of God.
Sowing the SEED or Planting it doesn't guaranty wonderful harvest and precious fruit. In Yosef's case, he received the teaching of the Word.He seems to understand. As his knowledge in the Lord needs to keep on growing, lot of maintenance work has to be done.
Spiritual Maintenance of our walk with God will create a close personal relationship. That relationship will open a two way flow of the Spirit in to us and us in to God.In other word, God dwells in us and the life we live is no longer of our own but God living in us, directing us, guiding us and talking through us. I wonder if that experience took place and grew in Yosefs' life.
A friend told me once that trust is to be proved. A good healthy tree must bear precious fruits that may yield wonderful harvest.
"Maintenance work" - I like that expression!
There are very many people who received the seed, but who then think this is all that's needed.
It isn't.
Following Christ is hard work - indeed like maintenance work, because there are always chinks in our armour of Faith, which allow the Satan to get in.
It is odd, isn't it, that we seem to be so reluctant to talk about the traps and seductions the Satan is putting into our paths, on a daily basis. Yes, I too talk about needing to work on being patient, for example, without saying why I need to work on it.
The Desert Fathers said that those who are working hard to defy Satan are under attack more than those who think that confessing Jesus Christ as King and Saviour, once or twice, is sufficient.
So perhaps Yosef is trapped, and needs our prayers.
I've been following the news on Mosab Yousef ever since he sought asylum and I actively supported his asylum. I think one has to consider Mr. Yousef is in process related to faith and that not everything any nation or group does can be supported - even Israel. Biblically Israel is God's chosen people to because they were the nation through whom Christ came, but we know God is no respector of persons and has not always been pleased with Israel as evidenced by their exiles in history. At the same time certinaly God does not support Hamas either. Before being totally for or against Mr. yousef, one should also consider the the following:
His support for the Qu'ran Dilemma - a very good work at:
http://sonofhamas.wordpress.com/
His support/invovlement for the following movie:
These are very powerful polemics.
If I am off base, convince me I am.
I've read his book... seen him speak in person in Leiper's Fork, TN at a Koinonia Institute event, (which Mr. Shoebat has ALSO spoken at our events).
I know Mr. Shoebat and Mr. Yousef have each had a kind of long running argument... and I really would hesitate in placing Mr. Yousef in the role of "foe"...
He seems to be a Christian... who is learning. He has a VERY different perspective than Western Christians... so it is very unfair of us to condemn his ideas and understanding, when we have not walked a mile in his shoes.
I have several friends who are "Replacement" Theology Christians... I do not dismiss their salvation. I dismiss their teachers.
Dittos to "different perspective"...
Mosab is definitely NOT a 'foe' and neither is Walid, although Walid continues to be accused of not being a terrorist in his past who also converted from the buried one to the Risen One.
Maybe, after Mosab matures in Christ and learns to clarify his comments, as the apostle Paul did and as Walid has done, maybe Mosab and Walid will join forces and speak together at conferences about how to respond to Islam.
Maybe.
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Late to the party ....
Just two things to add:
* if in doubt, go with Walid Shoebat;
* question anyone who says they'r Christians, but their words do not show the love we're told again and again in the NT to show to each other and above all to our enemies.
That's all.
Gawd - I misread this as 'always nice to see a rat explode' ... hm. Wonder what brought that one ...
As always Scoop, you bring us the most up-to-date and critical information! I will definitely check out Walid Shoebat's article and interviews. I have to wonder what role the media played in this young man's conclusion of "Israeli occupation". If we look at the MSM today in our country, absent the correct information, Israel was the aggressor in Gaza. We know the truth because we seek it out. Millions do not.
I saw your tweets! I wonder if the 200 is a 24-hr period and you cross into a new day. I didn't know about limit either but 200/day is a lot for a babbler like me :)
Too right, Orangeone, and I love your av!
Twitter is good for getting fast moving information.
For debate - not so much! For debate this is the place - thank you TRS!
NO argument from me on that one! :)
(O/t I can tweet again now. I 've no idea what that "reached your limit for the day" was about because a few mins later, I can tweet away again. Beats me!
And we missed you too! I tried to tweet you a welcome back, but I've gone over my tweet limit for the day. I didn't know I had one until I tried to tweet and was told so. Looking forward to your contributions and insightful comments on the news posted here on this great website!
What we need is people who know Arabic as well as people who study Arabic. What is the name of that language series . . . Rosetta Stone! Libraries have it.
There is an interesting article on Hamas at American Thinker: "Why Hamas Loves Death" http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/11/why_hamas_loves_death_and_cease-fires.html
What we often fail to realize is that the Christians in the Muslim lands are also Jew-haters. They might not have that stark raving mad hatred towards the Jewish people but they are haters nonetheless. I have Palestinian and Armenian Christian friends and the moment anything about Jews is mentioned, their eyes get ferocious although they have somewhat learnt to control and disguise their rage because they are out here in the West. The same goes for majority of the Coptic Christians and every kind of Christian in those countries ... they blame all the troubles there on the Jews.
It looks as if the Christians in the muslim countries have partaken from that medieval attitude. Jew Hate was pretty much the done thing in all Christian churches in the West as well.
It is only thanks to the generation of theologians after the Holocaust that we have been able to literally look at the NT and the OT through Jewish, or Middle Eastern eyes. And it is only through their work that we have learned that jew Hate is literally cutting off the roots from which Jesus came, and on which our Faith must be based.
For me, these theologians have literally taken my old, weak, uncommitted Faith apart, dusted it down, and put the pieces back in the right order. My gratitude to them is without bounds.
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple." Luke 14:26
Yousef is suffering from a really bad case of cognitive dissonace. On the one hand he...like many Christians in the ME support his dad, his tribe and what passes for his country. On the other hand he lays claim to Christianhood.
While doing so, he disses the state of Israel. That scarf he is wearing in the clip is a testimony to his true allegiance.
Then he hides his true feelings on Israel behind his use of the Arabic language. The gentleman that he was talking to also came to the same conclusion as this article.
Someone here mentioned discernment and wisdom. That's great. And here it is plain as day...and yet some still can't see it.
Nice job Scoop, posting this article.
I am disappointed but not surprised. Many in America are turning their backs on Israel. Yousef is only as good as he has been taught and only God knows who and what he has been taught.
Ok, I read about the U.S. granting asylum, and how RS was supportive of that at the time. I read Shoebats article and watched all the translated videos.
Mosab is a snake and a fraud. Question is, who is he lying to? Us or the Arabs? He was working with the Shin Bet as a double agent, but who was he double crossing? How do we know that the interviews in Arabic weren't just to appease the Arab world while he trotted off to the United States to go surfing under a supposed guise of infilatrating our churches and our minds? It is the death penalty to convert to Christianity, so could he have been providing cover for himself?
I'd rather be safe and say we can't trust the double agent snake. I'll take his word for it from the Arabic interviews that he did not believe any westerners would translate. Deport the bastard. it was a mistake to give him asylum.
If they believe in the Koran, then we are all to be converted or killed....END OF STORY...until we understand this fundamental we are vulnerable....NO MORE MOSQUES (or however you spell it) ..They are but a training ground to destroy us from within.
There is no such thing as "Islamic extremists"....they all are, it is what the Koran asks of them.
I am suspicious of the whole bunch, to tell you the truth. Yes, I realize that is not how I am supposed to be, but too much has happened now for me to be any other way. That old Trust But Verify thing. What I can state is that anyone who believes in Israeli occupation and hopes for victory against Israel is on my list of NO WAY. Victory against Israel simply means their complete destruction. I also do not believe for one minute that there is such a thing as an Arab Christian who is Palestinian. Rubbish.
Is Mosab Hassan Yousef a "wolf in sheep's clothing" (or any other recent Muslim-turned-Christians)? Only G_d knows. Their fruits will reveal who they really are. But even past good deeds and present actions should not even be used as basis for easily trusting them and being gullible in our present time. My take on this is to be on guard always on what we believe that can influence us or sway us to go in the wrong direction.
We, as faithful and Truth-seeking Christians, need to be on guard as evil is all around us lurking to deceive at every opportunity "it" can get. We have been given the gift of discernment, so use it wisely. Trust no one but the Word of God. We are in the very last days, and even some of the elect will be deceived or tested in their faith. Stay strong in faith in God and for love of country-the blessed U.S.A.
Personally, I don't trust Shoebat either. He has his own troubles that no one seems to acknowledge. Yousef already explained what he meant when Shoebat first started with this stuff. Is it enough? I don't know. One thing is even if you are Muslim in some disguise to further Islam in any way as is written in the Koran (its OK to lie if it furthers Islam) you still can't mock Allah. Yousef has trashed and mocked Allah relentless and the prophet Muhammad. Unacceptable no matter what in Islam. I also trust the Israeli handler from the Shimbet who told of Yousefs bravery and character and how he put his life on the line to save hundreds of Israelis. The Shimbet couldn't have been more thankful. Yousef loves his people for sure but not for a terrorist cause but by saving his people from the barbaric teachings of Islam. I think Shoebat is more concerned with his title of being THE terrorist turned Christian. Just my two cents.
Well, as to that, Walid has gotten a LOT of blowback from people on the right that simply don't want to believe the presentations he makes are 100% real. He and Pamela Geller get treated like the crazy uncle/aunt in the attic by right-side pundits.
Honest opinions are the best thing about this board, Ryan. Worth much more than 2 cents, IMHO. :)
I pointed this out what several months ago and some individual tried disputing it despite evidence...which is the same link here....to the contrary.
Oh and anyone who claims to be a Christian who calls the existence of Israel "occupation" and the murders of Jews "resistence" is no friend of anyone except the enemies of God.
Wake up Westerners. Stop thinking in Western terms when discussing the ME. Learn a little Arabic. Study Islam. Pay attention to our trusted friends: Nonie Darwish, Walid Shoebat, Raymond Ibrahim, Reza Khalili., Ali Sina, M.a. Khan, Ibn Warriq, Kaleem Saleem, Amani Mustafa...et. al. Until they prove otherwise, by hiding their true feelings behind their native languages, trust them.
Fortunately, we have excellent translators like Khalili, MEMRI and Shoebat who expose the miscreants and the wolves in our midst on a daily basis.
We should be thanking the real Itah for them.
I have tried to study Islam and understand what the heck is going on, but it's not easy. I am not as trusting as maybe I should be. I look with a suspicious eye on anyone who translates and explains for us what is going on in the Muslim world. I wonder if we are hearing the truth. I wonder if all these people claiming to be helping us are instead setting us up. Not necessarily the people who you have mentioned in your post, but just in general. For the first time in my life, since 9/11/01, I could be called a religious bigot against Muslims. I see nothing positive in the societies who are predominantly Muslim. I see hatred, destruction, misery, and a dedication to destroying anyone who doesn't share in that blind and horrible way of life. To learn to trust anyone claiming to be our trusted friend, I first have to learn to trust that not all Muslims have a tendency to turn on us in an instant. And, I'm just not there yet. Sounds bad, I know, but it's the truth. I'm sure I'm not alone in this.
All you gotta do is learn how to cross-reference. For example what does Spencer say about the Koran in his commentaries. When he uses an Arabic word. Is it the same word or phrase used by MEMRI or Shoebat or Darwish. What does the brilliant ex-Muslims at IslamWatch have to say about it?
And finally what do Muslims themselves say on the few occasions when they are actually honest when speaking in English.
That's how you can know who to trust or not trust. A really good point of reference for Koranic studies in both Arabic and English is abnsat. (http://www.abnsat.com/)
The Jesus or Muhammed debates are very instructive. You can also find them on Youtube.
Watch a bunch of them. Then read Jihadwatch and Islamwatch and Paliwatch on a regular basis. Then you can confirm for yourself that people like Walid Shoebat are the real deal.
I keep a notebook of Koranic studies which I normally do on every Saturday for just a few hours. You'd be surprised how fast you can learn the Koran and Hadith. In just one month you will know more than the leaders of the CIA, DOD, NSA and POTUS combined. Yep, they are that thick-headed.
I could be called a religious bigot against Muslims.
Islam is not a religion it's a cult of hate and deception. Anything good in Islam was borrowed to mask its evil essence. Mohammed = Obama.
Yes, it is the only major "religion" that does not preach love or ongoing moral improvement. There is no "Golden Rule" to encourage honorable behavior with others ... I think it was imagined for the sole purpose of giving his followers a celestial being to force impassioned warriors to do whatever it took to overpower his enemies in the name of that being.
TheQuran.com...
Son Of Hamas -
>> http://sonofhamas.wordpress.com/2011/03/24/what%E2%80%99s-the-media-afraid-of/
"People who heard me say that Islam will cease to exist before 2019 always ask me, what can we do to help make that happen?
"As I’ve said again and again, truth is Islam’s worst enemy. My people have been in the Dark Ages for fourteen centuries. They desperately need an Islamic Reformation like the Protestant Reformation led by Martin Luther, William Tyndale, and other church fathers.
"The key now, as then, is truth.
"What the printing press was to the ignorance of the 15th century, the Internet, smart phones, and the social network are to ignorance in the new millennium.
"But by far, the most revolutionary development to take place since Muhammad is thequran.com. Yet, virtually no one has heard of it.
"The media appears to be terrified and won’t let me or anybody else connected with the project on the air to talk about it.
"Why?
"Even FOX News, that followed my story—including Homeland Security’s attempt to deport me—when it was politically incorrect to do so, won’t put me on to talk about thequran.com.
"Policy-shaping men and women who know the truth about Islam are afraid to show the Islamic world where it can go to learn that same truth.
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