Its even worse then you know. I have spent years in the military and have 100's of contacts who I have talked to about Benghazi, and all those that have inside info say it's MUCH worse. The journalists are asking the question "Why did Obama not send in the Military?" Instead the question should be, "Why did Obama STOP the military from going in?" Notice the difference?
That is what they are covering up.
What has not been discussed is what was SUPPOSED to happen in Libya. When the attack started and the CRIT (critical analysis) from the CIA went out from Benghazi, several things happen. EVERY CIA Station Chief around the globe received this CRIT as well as DoD, NSA, NIA, CIA, State Department, and Situation Room in the White House. As part of the DoD notice of the CRIT, Africom under General Ham in Europe received it also. He follows his Standing Orders that order him to do all he can in his command to rescue the Americans and state department personnel He then orders up his Spec Ops strike team he has for these situations to be strip ready in 5 minutes which means airborne in AC 130J in 20 minutes, mobilizes air assets to start moving and puts his Army and Naval assets on alert. He activates the 173rd Airborne in Italy for deployment on 2 hrs notice to Benghazi. He Informs a MAU in the Mediterranean to start moving to Libya for possible deployment to Benghazi. He alerts his southern Italy air assets and launchs AC-130 Specters from Sigonella as well as Air refuel assets and drones for intell. From Northern Italy Fighters and Fighter Bombers are launched and expedited to Libya at Mach 1.2 so they will be over target in 25 minutes after getting airborne.
The Time line looks like this
00:00 CRIT goes out.
00:05 Hamm is notified
00:06 Following Standing Orders to rescue the Consulate, he alerts his assets to start the ball rolling.
00:08 order goes out.
00:12 orders acknowledged and received
00:15 assets start responding, notice for 2hr ready alert is sent to 173rd with troops gearing up and hercs being loaded while choppers are readied.
00:18 MAU changes heading and increases to flank speed, Destroyers turn to new heading and move to flank speed, Ready birds in Sigonella start to wind up engines, refuelers start to ready for takeoff, Weapons load outs on a/c being loaded and a/c fueled, Delta Force is 18 minutes away from wheels up and will be in Benghazi 1hr after takeoff, AWACS start takeoff prep
00:25 AC 130 are enroute. First drone is enroute.
00:30 Refulers are now wheels up and heading to station to loiter, AWACS wheels up and heading to station to loiter
00:35 Fighters lifting off and accelerating up to Mach 2 enroute
00:36 Delta Force is wheels up and preparing to receive drone data live to prepare for attack. Also in contact with intell getting a running account of what is happening in Libya in real time.
00:42 Fighter Bombers are wheels up and accelerating to at least Mach 1.2 enroute. AC 130 Specters now on scene
00:43 First Apaches and Blackhwks are now enroute.
00:55 First Fighters on scene to provide CAP
01:00 Army drone on scene and data transmitted to Africom, CIA, Sit Room, Pentagon, Delta Force enroute.
01:15 Fighter Bombers are on scene to take direction from AWACS
01:36 Delta Force is approaching Benghazi and has final intell from drone, and CIA assets under attack, and preparing for assault.
01:45 Spec Ops on ground and heading to Annex
01:55 Spec Ops at Annex and targeting of attackers with air assets commences if CIA ground team has not already done so.
02:05 Spec Ops move out to Consulate
02:10 Spec Ops at Consulate, Securing of Area then commences
03:00 First of 173rd arrives and secures airport Over the next 2 hrs over 500 troopers are on the ground with heavy vehicles and artillery support. By morning, 2000 paratroopers are on the ground and can secure the Field and surrounding area including annex and consulate.
The MAU and destroyers are within range within 18 hrs of receiving their orders to assist in landing another 3000 marines if needed.
This is what was SUPPOSED to happen. Because of the situation in Libya, General Ham did NOT need permission to do any of this. He did not need the Secretary of States permission, he did not need the Presidents approval. These are what his standing orders are from the Joint Cheifs of Staff. They were set back in the early 80's and have NEVER been changed. If this had been Egypt because of the Military assets of Egypt and the political relations he would NEED Presidential approval, but Libya is in a different category in his orders and he needed NO permission.
Now, when decision time came, Obama had a decision to make. Everyone seems to think it was between Ordering the Military to assist or doing nothing. THAT IS WRONG. Obama had THREE choices to make and we can see by the results which one he made.
His first Choice was to Order the Military to do everything possible to assist. Now, if had done this, there would be orders that he could show that proves this. Also, the response would have been something like what I have shown in the timeline. With full Presidential approval to assist, the troops from the 173rd would be on the ground in Benghazi plus the Marines for 5000 troops in Libya. We know this NEVER happened.
His second choice was to do absolutely NOTHING. No response, no input, not a word, just observe, and let Ham do what his standing orders dictated he must do. The only change to the above timeline if this decision had been made, would be the SPEC OPS once securing all Americans, possibly pulling back to the airport and withdrawing with all state personnel. We know this NEVER happened.
Obamas final choice, and the one we know he made, was to ORDER a STAND DOWN. This is the only way that Ham would NOT have done anything to secure the Americans in Libya. If Ham had done nothing without being ordered to do nothing, he would face a Courts Martial for Gross Negligence and Failure to Obey a Direct Order, and would be in Military Prison for a few years. To further prove that Obama ordered a stand down, the CIA had a drone tasked to Libya that was in country when the CRIT went up. This drone was probably not armed because the CIA uses them without weapons when they want to extend the loiter time. This one moved over Benghazi and had live intell within 15 minutes of the CRIT. The CIA and Air Force both launched drones that were armed but the CIA drone returned by orders from Langley, the armed Air Force drone (was told it was a Raptor) continued to Benghazi. CIA does not need presidential approval to use their assets in this situation unless the President ORDERS a STAND DOWN and tells the CIA they are not allowed to do anything. As well as this, the Delta Force response team Hamm had, was ordered to be line ready in 5 minutes, but they never left the ground. That means that a STAND DOWN ORDER stopped them from leaving the ground within 30 minutes of the CRIT going up. Next, we know Woods used a GLD (Ground Laser Designator) to paint a target for the Specter but the Specter never fired. Insurgents used their cellphone cameras with night vision to see where the laser was coming from and targeted their mortars on the GLD. The ONLY two people on the planet that could order that Specter not to fire were General Ham, and the President. Since Hamm was ordered to STAND DOWN, the only person who could order the Specter not to fire was Obama. Finally, from the message released on Friday from the CIA spokesperson, Patreaus is subtly telling us with a hammer that he was ordered to do nothing and STAND DOWN. The only one who could do that was Obama.
THAT is what they are covering up. In a selection of choices, the first involved full Military support, the second involved doing absolutely nothing at all, and the third involved ordering everyone to stand down.
Obama's choice was to order the Stand Down. That is the crime. Out of three choices Obama chose the one choice that guaranteed killing more Americans.
I don't know how he can sleep at night, I really don't.
More to follow as more info comes in to me.
Thank you so much! I have Obama supporters swarming me with asinine comments excuses for him, basically saying he wasn't even in the White House, let alone the situation room, and he never knew anything about it in time to order a defensive.. and a lot of other crap that honestly makes me want to throw up. Thanks so much for this detailed post *hugs*.
thanks for breaking this all down....it's the same thing I've heard also, just not in as much detail.....this situation is taking on a life of its own!! without the majority of the media digging for details, the aspect of weapons that may have been provided to the rebels in syria courtesy of the us government hasn't really come to light yet
Obama can't recognize the honor that our men in uniform have nor the love shared between a father and his son. We can watch the above video and see both. O would just be bored.
I had a thought about that dumb video clip that Obama, Hillary, etc. tried to blame this all on. I don't know who this guy is, if he's even who they say he is, his motives, whatever. When to think about it though, Obama and his admin acted true to form. From the evidence, he set this into motion, put our people in harms way and then chose to be pc rather then help them.
Then, to cover his rear, he blames this obscure clip which is like blaming America, like he's good at. We know it's a lie and the video is irrelevant, but he basically blamed these deaths on America's freedom and liberties. He's up to his neck in this garbage and he blames US!! He blamed this country again! How dare he lay this at our feet! His community organizing skills at play. Stir the pot, cause violence and mayham, and then blame someone else, America! A real American president would not do this!! He doesn't care about this country. What a fraud!! Ugh!
I had a thought about that dumb video, too. It came out sometime in June? July? At any rate, last summer. Why would a people wait so many months to react emotionally to it? Yeah, I don't think so. That was my very first thought when I heard about it (because, of course, from the first MSM reports the video was blamed).
This was a very good Special Report, even if all the reporters, to my mind, did pull their punches just a bit.
I hope people were watching in those states not directly affected by Sandy, because many who might have watched were probably preparing homes and families for the arrival of that storm.
It would be good if FOX showed this report, but it would even better if more in the State Dept, DoD and the CIA, perhaps even the WH, would have searched their consciences and provide more info to Baier and his colleagues.
The main thing is, however, that everybody relentlessly spread this and everything we learn to family, friends and acquaintances, through the social media, before 11/6.
The amoral, corrupt MSM will most certainly not do it.
One more week!
Before I watch these videos - a huge thank-you, scoop, for making them available!
And before I watch them, just wanted to tell you that I pray for all friends up and down the East Coast. I hope you are safe and are surviving Sandy. The reports and videos we just got here on the BBC are shocking.
I am sure I am being silly about this. We should not be amazed by technology, at this point. Apple and YouTube have opened up the world, to total communication by ordinary individuals.
Did you know that Apple stock is the most valuable stock in the world? Yep. Steven Jobs has passed, but the company he created, along with the Woz, in his parents' garage, in Cupertino, Calfornia, is the most valued stock in the Universe.
Obama, don't ever again, give me that bullshit that he didn't create this. You're a Goddamned fool if you actually believe that. My house is full of Apple computers, and they all work flawlessly. I have at least, thirty-five.
What a pathetic leader you have been for these last four miserable years.
Under your lack of leadership, this country has suffered, like it has never suffered in history.
I will be glad to be rid of you. I hereby volunteer to drive the U-Haul truck that moves you and your fat wife, out of OUR White House, so we can begin cleaning it to get ready for the new occupants.
Call it part of, "Restoring America." By the way, that's a Euphemism for, "Hopes and Dreams."
Hopes you leave the White House, Dreams that you will never return, on the landscape of America.
I shudder when they ask this Obama, essentially, what was going on in the situation room. And he says they are doing everying to find out.
Well, from whom? Was there some other President in there giving orders and now obstructing your effert to release the truth?
What will come of this, I have no idea. But I believe Romney will be elected, over this failure, called Obama.
Obama will go on, to write books ans do lectures, and make millions.
Romney will spend the next four years, probably eight, undoing and correcting what this madman has accomplished in just four years, toward his plan for destroying this nation.
Regardless, let us decide as a nation, to never let anything like this happen again. Let this be the last time, that a Muslim Communist, almost took over our country. Let it be the last time. Promise me that.
I am looking forward to having a new POTUS, but I don't think Romney has the "will" to extricate all of Obama's tendrils from the government and society. I think of it like a centipede (or maybe a tick) that has dug in with its claws. While Romney may cut the creature off where it is visible, I fear that he will ignore the deeply damaging things he has done to our country. That is why I liked Newt.....it seemed that he had spotted and listed all of the points that needed to be undone. Romney doesn't get into that level of detail and I fear that he is going to work like mad for the economy, but ignore the transgressions of government, against the people, that have become precedent under Obama.
It's still stunning that it's this difficult to win an election against such an obvious anti-America "failure". Pat Caddell has been spot on and extraordinarily observant of the reality that Republicans see, and most Dems willfully dismiss or ignore. He has some of the best and most thoughtful and informative articles on Breitbart. I mention him only because he seems to be able to look beyond the spin, which is unusual for any Democrat.
Stewie, I know you mean well, but your comment in disingenuous at this late stage of the game.
The Primaries are behind us. We are in the final quarter, with only a few minutes left in the game. Get a grip.
Didn't mean to upset you. It's just that we are so close to the election.
I do see what you mean, though. Newt was my choice, too. Maybe he will play a role in the Romney Cabinet.
What makes you think I lost my "grip". I can criticize Romney even though I will vote for him......if I didn't, I wouldn't be any better than an Obama-bot. You had mentioned that he would be undoing what Obama has done; I was simply responding that, IMO, it would be too narrowly focused to undo much. It's not going to be sunshine and lollipops after Romney wins. The attacks on liberty have to be eliminated before people become complacent. For example, look at the PPACA- it's not the issue of the day anymore.....in only 2 years, people aren't looking at the attack on private industry and individual rights- now they're mostly thinking about how it will benefit them.
Our society is devolving into the "proletariat vs the bourgeoisie" in one election. These problems have to be nipped immediately (maybe the educational system has instilled it too deeply), before they become a part of society- as the indoctrinated students reach their 30's.
It isn't like he's alone in this. If we can get control of the Senate, his job will be that much easier.
Make millions after he committed TREASON, looted the treasury, and MURDERED AMERICANS! WE DESERVE TRIALS OF THESE PEOPLE! WHERE'S THAT LIARS APOLOGY TO THIS COUNTRY FOR LYING ABOUT A VIDEO? WHERE IS IT, YOU MUSLIM JIHADIST FRAUD?
I can "promise" I'll do my part in making sure nothing of the likes of bo and his brown shirted thugs ever get within a hundred thousand miles of the WH again.
I hope all you wrote comes to pass! Except the part where bo goes on to make millions, unless that's millions of license plates in Leavenworth.
Bret is doing a top notch JOURNALIST JOB Exposing and Staying on Top of Benghazi Gate.
Too bad the great American Masses will not know anything about it until the 0b0 MSM PACs report it, and even if they hear Bret they will not believe it coming from Fox.
Did the Libyan-flagged vessel Al Entisar pull out of Benghazi with a full load of arms for the Syrian Rebels taken from the Benghazi Mission Warehouses as scheduled on the 12th?
Can you track that boat?
Apparently it docked in Turkey on 9/6/12 and is presently enroute back to Libya.
Look at the date, time and speed.
Soooo... it probably made Benghazi just fine. Did it load up and pull out?
I am thinking, that it did.
Great work on your part even if you missed a detail...
This was the boat they used to move the hardware.
I also notice that it is currently unaccounted for, which in my opinion, is the keys to the city.
With your insightful input, boat movements, could indeed shed a bit of light on this dark subject.
Thanks again for sharing the link on the vessel movements.
This is big stuff.
Yeah, you're right. I misread the info. I thought that it docked in Turkey and was presently mid ocean. I find it interesting that no info exists on it after that date and time.
I think Robert McFarlane summed it up pretty well when he said it was "dereliction of duty". One day, hopefully soon, the truth will be known but until then Benghazi gate must continue to be investigated.
I sat through all these videos. I thought it was important. After watching the videos, I am convinced it was important.
As a reporter, Brett Baier has my highest respect for giving us this presentation. Fox News, what can I say? If we didn't have Fox News, we would have nothing, except the mainstream media. Thank God for Fox.
I have trouble finding the words. Those of you, who know me, are smiling.
I rarely have trouble finding the words. But, I am simply appalled at this President, and his minions, for presenting this absolute failure of Obama's foreign policy, that not only killed four Americans, but represented us to the world, as a nation that cannot defend itself, as something that can be just brushed aside, as one of the consequences of having an Embassy, in a war torn region.
I am grieved, by the loss of American life, in a miserable place like Libya. The only reason we are there, in the first place, is to try to make their life better. Forgive me, but they don't seem to want a better life.
But, that's another issue, not part of this conversation on the absolute failure of an American President to protect people in a dangerous foreign post like Libya.
Here is the main problem I have with this imposter of a President.
He represents me. He represents a lot of Americans I know, as friends and neighbors. Problem is, I don't agree with anything he says.
I guess I could criticize his foreign policy, that is, if he had one.
If I could say anything about Obama, it is that he is love with himself. The most narcissistic person ever to hold the office.
Not exactly what you want to see, in a leader.
What bothers me is that Obama is going to use this Hurricane Sandy to deflect all stories away from his incompetence and evil. The storm will be gone in a few days, but the recovery will take at least a week to resolve. Even though the Lame Stream Media hasn't covered Benghazi and all the followup news, they were bound to be forced to cover some of it as it got hotter and hotter.
Now, with the massive New York storm taking the wind out of all the other news, Obama may be able to sidestep this issue until after the election. Heck, even FOX is spending most of their airtime to show 'amazing' waist deep water (something we here in the midwest get every spring). They can make Obama look like a Presidential hero in total charge, when all his role is anyway is to release money (which, as Charles Krauthammer said, is what he does best anyway).
The storm may well be his 'October surprise' that gets him re-elected by default.
I agree Nukefriend. I've been telling my husband today, dear leader gave his pompous address, interesting that he hasn't been heard from since all this news about Benghazi has come out... but anyway, he gave his lame speech, and once all the looters come out, and we know they will, he'll most likely order more National Guards (NY already has some out there) and/or call for martial law. I wouldn't put it past him. He can not afford to let this crisis go to waste.
Well, dude I understand that. I really do. But when you go down that road you only fuel the radical left's phoney charges against us.
Obama is NOT a monkey, he's a human being like the rest of us. The problem is he is deceived like so many radicals. His eyes have been blinded to the Truth. As much as we hate the man's policies and his worldview, we should remember that "we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers."
In other words, our war is with the evil one who animates the liberal worldview and all worldviews like it.
Let's keep our focus and not allow the radicals to turn us into them.
You're doing good my friend, just keep your eyes on the prize. Don't let them distract you.
Anything to distract the public, from what is really going on. I think that was what you were really trying to say.
Nuke, this worthless President would use an old woman being run down, crossing the street, if he thought it would help him get re-elected.
I know stage, but my hatred of the man, is simply off the chart.
If he can hate this country, the way he and his fat wife do, then I can hate him right back.
The, "monkey comment," comes from my wife.
My wife was born in Jarkarta, Indonesia. This is the woman who throws shoes at the computer, when his face is on the screen.
You don't want to mess with my wife. I learned that, early on. That's why i'm still alive, and I can type this message to you.:)
The crisis I'm talking about is the hurricane, not the Benghazi fiasco. Obama will do whatever he can to use the hurricane to his advantage.
Here in the midwest approximately ten-fifteen years ago, we had a 100 year flood.
Whole subdivisions were under water, electric substations under water and even
tho we have underground cable for electrics, our electric was off for a few days.
Noone from the government came to help. We helped each other.
Since we have 24/7 television, news programs run the same thing over and over
again. I have seen nothing on Libya, however, this storm news is going on and
on and on.
I am waiting for Obama to try and stop the election process on Nov. 6th.
"I am waiting for Obama to try and stop the election process on Nov. 6th."
That's what I have been holding my breath over, and praying about, for months! All it would take is for his exaltedness to declare martial law for us all to be 'royally' screwed. :(
I have since read that NEVER in the history of our country have the elections
been halted. Also, that congress would have to agree with the president's
directive. I am sure it entered Obama's mind, however, they haven't found
a way yet to implement that strategy.
I am thinking, however, that if the election is close their lawyers will start filing
lawsuits. I read that they have a team of lawyers ready for this in each state.
That is why we must all vote for Romney, even if we don't agree with him on
everything. A vote for Romney, regardless, is a vote against Obama. We must
win in a landslide (I feel good about that possibility) to counteract the leftie vote
fraud that will go on (did you read about the voting machines in two states
that when voters select "Romney" votes for Obama are registered?).
The results must be definitive.
BTW, the early voting by my home has been busy. I have been trying to early
vote this week, however, every time I drive by for a quick "run in and run out",
the parking lot is full!!!! It is on my way to everything I do in the way of running
errands, etc. so this is at least 2-4 times daily that I drive by. In my neighborhood that is great news for Romney!!
Granted the storm out East is a big one and a lot of damage will ensue. The power is with the Governors of each state to effect recovery. Obama can only release Federal money, but watch for him, and the media, to claim that he 'saved' New York with his superhuman actions.
Well blame God.
Not much we can do about a hurricane.
Focus on getting out the vote, personally I might add, and after Romney and a GOP House are in office (maybe a Senate too), then they can investigate this.
Obama will have to testify under oath eventually.
I don't know. I'm beginning to wonder....
D.C. derecho: Storm that hit capital was fast, destructive — and rare
Hurricane Isaac pounds Louisiana on anniversary of Katrina
Rare tornadoes hit Alabama, killing two
Monster Alabama Tornado Spawned by Rare "Perfect Storm"
4.0 earthquake shakes Maine, felt in Boston
Rare Strong Earthquake Hits Colorado
Rare Earthquake Hits Virginia, Rattles U.S. East Coast
Hurricane Sandy, rare 'super storm,' prompts East Coast preparation
There's an awful lot of "rare" going on lately!
First of all, you missed my point. I wasn't blaming the storm. I was talking about how Obama will use it for his own personal political advantage, much like he does with everything else, to give himself an edge that might make the difference.
Secondly, with only 14 comments on this site, perhaps you are not aware of how much many of us here personally are involved with the election. We are all in. With an issue like Benghazi, it's imperative that the independents, undecideds, and slightly leaning Democrats know exactly who Obama is.
And, thirdly, if anything is to be blamed for the hurricane, I blame Satan and not God. It's Satan who would twist Earthly forces to affect something like our politics. If Obama is in bed with the devil, it would make perfect sense.