***UPDATED: REPLACEMENT REFS FIRED FROM LFL***

This is exactly what instant replay is for and the replacement refs still got it wrong. You just got to see it:

Consider this an open thread.

UPDATE: Here’s a photo from right after the catch that leaves no doubt. Click to make larger:

UPDATE 2:

UPDATE 3: Not sure which NFL replacement refs they are referring to, but seriously, go read this now.




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128 comments
BRAD BANGERTER
BRAD BANGERTER

I don't believe anyone who says they are from Seattle and feel bad cause they know we lost. Anyone who is a real Seattle fan is saying Thank God we finally get a break and have horrible officiating go our way!

PapaLouie
PapaLouie

If the replacement refs had made the opposite call, it would still be a big controversy. People act like there were never any controversies in the past with the regular refs. In this case, they could make the call easier by changing the rules to allow them to fight to the death (or until one gains sole possession of the football.) That might add some excitement to the game...

sjmom
sjmom

First, would someone please tell me what the LFL is?

I did not watch the game but my husband did and said it was a bad call. Saw the replay and agree.

RS, I thought of the comparison of politics to football as well because the NFL is now so politically correct.

AmyInWI(formerly just Amy..)
AmyInWI(formerly just Amy..)

GAAAAHHHHH!!!! I hate Associated Press!! They are reporting that Governor Scott Walker is calling for the return of UNION refs to the NFL. Of course they emphasize UNION and you can almost hear them sneer through the radio. Of course, that's not what the Governor said, but hey, it's the press & they can say whatever they want, cuz, hey, we're the press!!!

ugh... sorry about the rant. Just really tired of so called MSM.

WI4Walker
WI4Walker

Oh head over to Twitchy.com if you want to see some screwed up leftists piling on Walker. Batshit crazies they are.

AmyInWI(formerly just Amy..)
AmyInWI(formerly just Amy..)

I think I better stay away from Twitchy today... LOL My blood pressure can't handle it. Twitter is like the Lord of the Flies of the internet. There are some seriously messed up tweeters out there.

GetWhatYouPayFor
GetWhatYouPayFor

MSNBC will have a field day with "Scott Walker Union Buster" tonight.

AmyInWI(formerly just Amy..)
AmyInWI(formerly just Amy..)

Oh, I am sure of it... Because there is nothing else pressing going on in the world right now. I love football, but the attention a striking team or referee's union gets is just insane.

Laurel
Laurel

I'm still ticked over this.

MiketheMarine
MiketheMarine

I did not see it live but after watching the replay of this, I am of the opinion that the cath was a tie and the tie goes to the receiver. Therefore, Touchdown. Just because the GB player wrestled the ball away means nothing, the play was dead as soon as the hit the ground and started fighting over the ball. The replacement refs suck, but I think they got that call right.

Carolyn Dixon
Carolyn Dixon

the greenbay pack player caught the ball and the seattle player tried to take it from gb. if you had watched it live, you would have seen what happened. gb player had the ball against his body. one of the replacement refs called it td for seattle bu the other ref called it a touchback.

maynardb50
maynardb50

....And, they need to bring back Hank Williams Jr. to sing the intro!

aposematic
aposematic

Welcome to the new American reality: Everything upside down; now even our sports!

David Boyes
David Boyes

Politics is a LOT like football ... good quote Hume !!

Brit Hume

@Kimsfirst

Replacement refs doing the best they can. That's the problem. Sort of like President Obama.

Garym
Garym

Bottom line, Jennings should have batted that ball behind him and left no doubt. He went for the interception and gave Tate a chance. His fault.

MiketheMarine
MiketheMarine

Yep, volleyball slam that pig skin to the ground. Then there is no question.

Sober_Thinking
Sober_Thinking

I'm a Seahawks fan. I want them to win... but they lost last night. I watched it over and over and there's no denying it... they lost.

They say a "W" is a "W"... but this "W" looks a lot like an "L". What a shame.

Landscaper
Landscaper

Two refs making two different calls and both on the spot. GB clearly had possession.

GibsonLP
GibsonLP

Obama should have a "beer summit" to iron this out.

Nukeman60
Nukeman60

If you watch closely, at the 1:30 mark, Tate's left hand is between Jennings chest and the ball. Then Jennings closes both his arms around the ball while Tate wraps his right arm around the ball and Jennings right arm. Does this constitute 'simultaneous possession'? I don't know.

All I know is Obama is putting out an executive order tomorrow to address this issue. He will state that "In the event of an assumption of 'simultaneous possession', the ball goes to the black player (or any other minority deemed worthy of redistribution). Should both players be black (as in this case), then the ball goes to whatever uniform is darker. Should both uniforms be of the same darkness, then the ball goes to the Seattle player (since Washington State is voting for me and Wisconsin can go suck eggs)."

End of edict.

MiketheMarine
MiketheMarine

That is how I saw it. A tie in a catch always goes to the receiver. The wrestling around later was after the play was dead.

Landscaper
Landscaper

nuke, if you don't have an article published somewhere in the dead tree media you should. you are mark twain and warped at the same time.

warpmine
warpmine

Did someone call my name?

Rocco11
Rocco11

Obama socialism at its finest. These refs deserve a "fair shot," don't they?

MiketheMarine
MiketheMarine

That's right. Starting this year, regardless of who wins the Superbowl, all replacement refs will receive their very own Lombardi trophy in the name of "Fairness!"

REHLV
REHLV

The real issue here is not the initial mistake, but the fact that they had video replay available and even after going and looking under the hood, came back with the same conclusion. Shut the front door, this is just crazy. This kind of reminds me of the DOJ and how they do things. Too many bad calls to list here.

kong1967
kong1967

Pretty bad, but I don't blame them. I blame the refs that went on strike. I'm all for someone making as much as they can, but I never like a strike...for sports or for business. Every time the NFL or any other sport gets mass increases we pay for it on our end. Commercials get played more, cable costs more, it costs more to get into the games, and the advertising makes the products we buy more expensive. Sooner or later the fans are gonna decide they can't afford to watch.

"I have to pay how much a month for cable t.v. to watch football? $350?"

Ok, maybe that's a tiny exaggeration, lol, but I made my point.

I know the following reference isn't professional, but I'm just making a point. At one time I could watch all of my KU college basketball games, or most of them, on one channel. Then they started separating the games on different channels for the same network and you had to subscribe to each individual channel. I was pi$$ed. The day might come when their greed outweighs the ability of the market to pay for them and they will find themselves on an assembly line making $10 an hour.

Rshill7
Rshill7

C'mon man!

WI4Walker
WI4Walker

No kidding. Will be everybody's "C'mon Man" next week.

CalCoolidge
CalCoolidge

I have seen the regular refs blow replay calls, too. Hardly the first time something like this happened.

kong1967
kong1967

True, but the bad calls were extensive. During the Chiefs game there were 5 overturned calls, and some of them were inconclusive and I couldn't figure out why they were reversed.

A_Truism
A_Truism

LOL! This thread is hilarious.

Where I live, Rugby is the major sport and when someone says "football", we think Soccer. But you guys/gals are far more lenient on bad officiating. You don't want to mess up when our teams play, haha. We never forget :P

colliemum
colliemum

Too right, a_truism!

Mind - we should tell the guys and gals that it's us, the fans, who get to stick our knives into the refs. The players are true gentlemen and take what the ref says. They know that arguing with the ref means ten in the sin bin.

As to this fascinating video clip: in rugby, this would have been crystal clear even to the blindest ref: attacker doesn't touch the ball down, ball held up - play on. No argument.

Note to self: must try and watch some NFL games ...

kong1967
kong1967

I never could get into Rugby.

colliemum
colliemum

Why not?

This is not a snarky question - I'd really like to know.

kong1967
kong1967

Well, nowadays you have to take them off the field if there's blood because of health reasons...HIV.

colliemum
colliemum

Yep - great contact sport, no prisoners taken, football and rugby being similar but slightly different. I really must try and watch some of your football games, I have no idea if there's as much skulduggery going on between players when the ref isn't looking!

Rugby has been tamed down, sadly. Used to be that absolutely no replacements were allowed. If a player had to be carried off the pitch - tough luck, play on. Now they even have to come off when there's a bit of blood ... Ah well, good old days when men were men, aye ...

kong1967
kong1967

Similar to American football. We all get some contact sports to watch. :)

colliemum
colliemum

That's understandable. One can't learn abut a game,never mind love it, when there's no way one can play it or watch it, never mind finding a team to support.

The goal is simple: carry the oval ball across the opposite try-line and touch it down (with force). There's one law (rugby, for some weird English customs hasn't got 'rules' but 'laws'): the ball must not be passed forward. After that, thigns get complicated ...

Oh - the refs for rugby are also afflicted with blindness, stupidity, and all sorts of bias!

kong1967
kong1967

Well, it's not so much the sport itself. There's not much opportunity to see it over here in the states on television, and when I occasionally do I don't know the rules. It's very difficult to get into a game when you don't understand what the goal is or what the rules are.

If there was more support for it here I'm sure I would learn the game and love it.

A_Truism
A_Truism

Never mind...Just been to Twitchy. Everyone is the same, hahahaha...

911Infidel
911Infidel

Roger Goodell is such an a$$. What the real refs are asking for is chump change. Lets get the rent-a-refs out of there.Already you got one coach grabbing a ref and one assistant coach throwning some papers at them. Its only a matter of time before they get hit with something a whole lot worse than paper...

Landscaper
Landscaper

Watched the game, could not believe the end. The lock-out refs.... fire their asses. Cull from college cream of crop and lets play ball. Enough. Can't even football get it right. Screw me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KenInMontana
KenInMontana

Unions, nuff said.

Nukeman60
Nukeman60

Interesting how when the Unions are screwing everybody left and right in the public sector, people yawn and say, "we gotta help these poor workers get their rights". But when the Unions screw the fans of pro football, they finally get mad and open their eyes to what Unions are really doing to us.

Better late than never, I guess. :)