"That is why, under present conditions, the Marxist programme is divided into two parts: the maximum programme, the goal of which is socialism, and the minimum programme, the object of which is to lay the road to socialism through a democratic republic." - Stalin (1907)
Republic vs Democracy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7cY7LfMSbk
This is effectively what we have in the U.S. The Legislative and Executive branches ignore the constitution, the People don't demand that they do and Chief Roberts ruling on Obamacare just proves the courts don't either. A pure democracy by default is what we'r left with. Dictatorship
The best slave is one who believes that he is free. We lost our freedom when we lost our ability to own property, and when we allowed our income to be taxed. The last 100 years has brought us a continual depleting of our liberties. Slaves can be given certain liberties, but remain slaves. How is it that government can force us to pay into a retirement fund, and we still consider ourselves free? Obama Care is nothing more than a continuation of what we have determined to accept over many decades now. Socialist and communist programs cannot exist in a free country, because they cannot survive based on voluntary involvement. Government owns all property, and all income. They are just now proving to us that they also own us, thought this also has been evident to those who have been privy to certain information and understanding.
We did start out as a country recognizing and fighting for individual liberty, but what we started out with was quickly and continually under attack by those who held power. The founders were correct in saying that wars will have to be fought to keep it. Our government has successfully convinced us that these wars are and have been fought overseas. The last war that was fought for this purpose was the American Civil War. No other war was fought due to any real threat to our individual liberties.
We rarely recognize the true enemies of our constitution and bill of rights. Conservatives focus on liberals, and liberals blame conservatives. The reality is that both sell us out to foreign powers, and use their growing police state to enforce that which they enacted via illegal legislation.
My question to those who believe that we live in a free country, and have a representative government, is simply "why do you consider the federal government to be a constitutionally legitimate government"?
Well, the Brits and the old Dominions (Canada, NZ, Australia, etc.) are proper 'Parliamentary Democracies' but this doesn't happen overnight as these idiots in DC assume. It takes hundreds of years of culture, the predisposition, the judeo Christian foundation and so on to arrive there. And, as we may be seeing in the UK, the fatal 'progressive' obsession with relativism and 'tolerance' can be a death wish and result in fact very quickly.
Just like liberals, they load up the ballots with fake votes from people who are bussed in - in this case, by the Muslim Brotherhood.
After Wilson (A big Liberal Racist Progressive) left office, he was reported to have said how he regretted creating the Federal Reserve. Now...it wasn't because he regretted government controlling money and money gains power...it was because the Federal Reserve would control the government as it was THEY...A PRIVATELY OWNED BANK called the Federal Reserve who would end up controlling government because they are the ones that Congress turned over American's tax money and signed into law by Wilson. Yep...the Federal Government answers to about SEVEN wealthy MEN/WOMEN around this planet who control the Federal Reserve Bank. To my knowledge there has been only one President with the cahones to challenge this power and he was assassinated just FOUR short months later after signing an Executive Order to abolish the Federal Reserve. And Johnson signed a new EO re-establishing the Federal Reserve within a few hours of assuming the Presidency. Now that is messed up!! Until we get rid of the Federal Reserve and let the states only tax us with States paying the Federal Government...we will never have what our founders intended for us to have. Our states have little power now....the Federal Government walks all over our states and it is humiliating when I hear someone say we have a Democratic Republic.....NO..we HAD a Democratic Republic...what we have now is a joke!
'Democratic elevtions'? Please, give me a break.
There are only forms of government under Islam, an Autocratic Islamic Dictatorship OR a Theocratic Islamic Dictatorship. Either waa, Islam IS 'the government'.
Let's see what "democratic" elections have brought to Egypt. Morsi, Sharia, F-16s and Abrams tanks....
The U.S. gave up the Republic in favor of a Democracy during the Civil War. Everything since is conjured history to maintain the deception of a Republic long abandoned. All pretense was confirmed by the States in accepting the 17th Amendment.
The U.S. gave up the Republic in favor of a Democracy during the Civil War. Everything since is conjured history to maintain the deception of a Republic long abandoned.
Democracy minus American values is the easy road to totalitarian rule
iam from Egypt just an example in upper Egypt they prevent christian from voting in presidential election
democracy for those people just a ladder the climb on it then they destroy it
True.The founders wanted no part of a pure democracy because just as you stated they saw pure democracy as mob rule.For almost a century now the word republic has been tossed aside by people from both parties and replaced with the word democracy.We are not now and never have been a democracy for good reason.
@57thunderbird Your right and this is why all we ever hear from the media is Democracy, Democracy, Democracy. Democracy in Iraq now it's Democracy in Egypt, etc. I never noticed it until a few years back and of course it's even more pronounce now since they are in total agreement with Obams's support of the Muslim uprisings in the middle east. I consider it just one more part to the brainwashing. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying the majority of the media are smart enough to come up with this on their own but let's face it most of them are brainwashed to.
Always remember that Hitler was elected to power. Once he got it, he kept it. The radical Islamists have learned this lesson well.