This folks is what our freedom are entirely about. Any questions?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=TZBTyTWOZCM
This folks is what our freedom are entirely about. Any questions?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=TZBTyTWOZCM
Brian Jones: "Wow...you have a LOT of anger and hatred in you. Perhaps YOU should not play video games, but that probably has more to do with the underlying mental instability...
The ONLY time I raise my voice, swear, or speak out like that is when people are being verbally abusive to another member (which you were to Stewie). After I called you out on it, you then began to be verbally abusive to me. You continue to do so. So...good day to you..."
Don't tell people how to post. And most importantly learn to communicate properly without trying out some veteran trump card on me and we will get along just fine. Develop your intellect by putting down your video games or don't blog. Your posts speak for themselves. Claiming verbal abusiveness is what people do when they have nothing else. You never addressed not one point I made and inferred things I never ever said replete with assumptions. Your emotionalism is not a defense.
Parody Video Shines Light on Celebrities ‘Demand a Plan’ Gun Control PSA
Even with the bountiful hypocrisy, it was hard to tolerate watching the self-righteous stalwarts of moral authority for those half second intervals at a time.
This is not your typical violent video game.Those games have nameless faceless targets.This game is promoting violence against one private citizen.Namely Mr La Pierre.If any harm should befall him as a result,this game designer should be held responsible.
They are so blind by their anger they can't see the hypocrisy. That's just like a smoker telling their kid not to smoke.
Nawwwww....I'm an idiot to suggest that violent video games contribute to cultural violence.
Keep blaming video games, and you will NEVER see another young person join the Conservative cause. Video games were many of our childhoods. So keep alienating the younger population (which many Conservatives are SOOOO good at doing), and you will virtually guarantee this party dies out...
Yeah yeah...I'm a Democrat, Liberal, Communist, etc. I've heard it all...
The fact is, I AM THE ONE saying that EVERY ADULT has their own freedoms. Freedom to own whatever firearm they want, watch whatever movie they way, play whatever game they want, etc.
I am ALSO the one saying it is the PARENTS' responsibility to raise their own children properly, and to restrict their children from being exposed to these "dangerous" elements if that's what needs to be done.
YOU are the one suggesting that these types of media are EVIL, and that YOU know best and as such these types of games and movies should be removed from society.
Who among the two of us actually stands for MORE freedoms??? Yeah...thought so...
WHO said ANYTHING bad about "your country"?!? I'm STILL waiting on proof "bubba"...
"Biggbear52" and you're not a dude? OK. I can respect that.
Hey, I can understand your frustrations. Trust me, a lot of us feel the same way. You're among like-minded folks.
I am not going to explain you own words to you. You spoke them you live them. Though I will say this. No one but God almighty has the right to incite anything. So when one accepts an oppressive assault, regardless of how subtle you have in essence, GIVEN UP! The word you is in generality not specific!
It has everything to do the current topic as it is it’s core. The Nazi’s went out of the way, way out, to take any possible freedom, especially that of opinion to progress they’re global attempt of domination. That is at the fore front of communist indoctrination. As is mass brain washing by way of school kids. This in effect takes any remote individuality out of said subject to the point they are oblivious to speak out for they know they will be killed. Our school were forced into indoctrination camps on January 5th 1979 when Jimmy Carter implemented the National Education system. The media spends 100% of their time spinning every story to either bolster the left or demonize the right to push and agenda into the minds of those that listen.
“WHEN YOU TELL A LIE, TELL IT LONG ENOUGH. SOON THE MASSES WILL BELIEVE IT AS TRUTH. Any idea who might have made that statement. Muhammad over 600 years ago. The Muslim have been forcing that down the throats of the Middle east ever since. It is now the main frame of the American communist.
Before I answer you: How did I speak ill of my country? Please...enlighten me...otherwise, go away.
First of all I am not DUDE that term to me is highly offensive. Secondly when I hear things being said about my country, whoever said it best be willing to back up with fact. If fact cannot be produced. Then them is fighting words. When people bad mouth my fellow American graciously FREE land I will call a spade, spade. So now that, that is clear perhaps we are on the same page. A lot of us on here took oaths. By God stand by them
Easy to say hard to prove. What division were you and what unit. I have personally never met one Veteran who would speak of his/ Her country in the manor you do. I personally served in the U.S Calvary from 1977 to 81’ while serving under Patton’s grandson George S. the third. Seventh Calvary and the 1-10th group and later went to every corner of this globe. There is nothing I wouldn’t do for this land of mine.
Now take a moment and think of what this Nazi regime in Washington is doing. That dictatorial regimes throughout the world have attempted especially the Japanese and German’s of WWII. Isn’t that insanity Brain? Isn’t it insane treason to forcibly make and entire Nation and its people indefensible with virtually no hope of survival. How about you ask the current 2254 people held in custody for no other reason than their opinion. I am speaking of American citizen that you have never heard of and you are supposed to. That is how severe this issue is. Every day this Nazi party is making over 4250 laws making it impossible for us NOT to be guilty of some federal law. Because they are extremely scared of us. A people able to stand up and say is a danger to the totalitarian way, to the Kingship. Which by the way Odildo has already hinted at doing come 2016 so his family will be of royal blood by self-proclamation. Look it up. I actually the pauperized son of a Kenyan communist dog say it. It is also in all three of his books! It is also in every single word and action he and his minions do illegally. Not one thing since his first placement is legal. NOT ONE. Because Brian, we have been with out a signed budget. The fast and Furious thing proved him a treasonous son of commie. He does not want any freedom. This is because the power that be want utter obedient drone. Look up your history of WWI and WWII especially the Nazi Bible “MINE CAMPH” this oval office robber is following it almost to a tee. Verbatum!
Dude, take a deep breath and regroup. You're among friends here and most of us will probably agree with the same things. Just relax and chill. We've all had our moments of outburst. I did last week, lol. Just take a step back and relax.
WHAT are you talking about?!? LOL! Man, your brain has seriously derailed dude!
A. I'm a veteran (so screw you dude)
B. I'm Catholic
C. I'm NOT a "punk ass"...I can assure you of that
D. You are a product of what us good folk despise!
GOOD FOLK?!? You have been condescending and arrogantly rude to EVERY SINGLE PERSON in here except for the ones that 100% agreed with you. You are NOT "good folk"...
E. I'm Catholic, and I MOST-DEFINITELY believe in God. I also believe in freedom, which you do not.
Insanity: Repeating actions of the past, while expecting different results.
Attempts to restrict people's Freedom of Speech has been tried before, and it never worked out well. All those attempted resulted with America HOLDING Freedom of Speech SO DEAR to our souls because we understand that once it can be "defined" and "restricted" and "shaped" by "concerned citizens", we are no longer free...
And, while I don't have an IPOD, I also don't understand what purpose it would have in helping me answer your question.
So, please, explain to the rest of the class what an IPOD is, and how exactly it would have helped me answer your question. And, lastly, do so without being an absolute TOOL...
Define “INSANE” and do it without using the use of your ipod or some sort of. Use, if you are able, what the good Lord gave you.
There’s that infamous and very youthful ignant arrogance again. That slow boat is loading hurry baby bot hurry! Truth hurts don’t it pitcher. To bad ya’ll never learned to catch. So get your freak punk assd out of my country. You have no respectful concern for it. You are a product of what us good folk despise! Go with God. Oh wait you don’t believe him either do you. To your demise once again when he is ready.
Talking about me being a "subject", and yet YOU are the one DICTATING to people what is and is not acceptable in society!!! YOU, Sir, are insane!!!
You're not making any sense. And quit with the age thing...we know you're old as dirt, and you know exactly what the dinosaurs REALLY looked like, etc...but that doesn't make you smarter than us, nor does it make your arguments any more legitimate than ours...
You're not making any sense. And quit with the age thing...we know you're old as dirt, and you know exactly what the dinosaurs REALLY looked like, etc...but that doesn't make you smarter than us, nor does it make your arguments any more legitimate than ours...
There is virtually not a doubt in my 50 + decade aging body that it is most certainly the other way around. Your every word dictates precisely what I posted and ya dad gum well know it. So pack your bags and join Piers on that slow boat to Korea. They do like you type of folks. Apparently ya’ll make good subjects! Have fun.
Wow...you don't have a respectful bone in your body...you're not even making sense anymore. And by the way "BUBBA", you're not the only veteran on this website, nor is your opinion the only one that deserves to be heard (as much as you might like to think so).
Wow...you don't have a respectful bone in your body...you're not even making sense anymore. And by the way "BUBBA", you're not the only veteran on this website, nor is your opinion the only one that deserves to be heard (as much as you might like to think so).
My guess would be that you think Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Delano were really hep cats huh bubba ? or is it the other end of the tyrannical spectrum and you wish you could visit Count Vlad of Carpathia. Perhaps the raids of Quantrill are more your speed while fleeing the scene of the mass extermination of no less than 1500 women and children simply because they were in his way. Or perhaps we come closer to the twentieth century and you can sit in the Oval office and help Franky Delano plan the attack on his own soil. No before you call me out on this, check it out for yourself. Be sure to search all available informant at your very fingertips. Or lets just send you to the north tip of Korea and see how long your mouth lasts!Nah you wouldn’t do that. That would be reality and your severely afraid of that.!Arnet you?
No young fella you haven’t The problem is that you go out of your way to make light of it. And that to your own undoing.
No young fella you haven’t The problem is that you go out of your way to make light of it. And that to your own undoing.
with that attitude: which train to the camp would you have been on with hands to face hiding like the wea frightened child.
I have no doubt that there will be a video game that allows you to kill some other pres. before the month is out. Guaranteed.
It is all moot. We have been set up in a well laid plan. Obama plans a backdrop of children to announce his dictates on guns.
With many sites reporting it will include "assault weapons" ban and magazine restrictions, it is clear we live in a dictatorship. And over half of America will be OK with that.
None of this matters.
Not to pick a fight - but the 1st amendment is the 1st amendment. If you don't like the video/app/game/movie then don't buy it. I don't have an issue with this - or any of the ones out there that allow you to punch the President of the United States of America - or any of the ones that 'disprespected' George W. Bush. Aren't we the ones who preach that you don't have a right to not be offended? Maybe we need to practice what we preach?
I don't think the issue is whether you can or cannot buy it. The issue is: IS VIDEO GAME VIOLENCE CONTRIBUTING TO CHILDREN SHOOTING CHILDREN?
And the answer is YES!
You can't feed your mind on violence and expect to come out the other end virtuous. Why do you suppose so many soldiers have issues returning from war? They are constantly inundated with violence on the battle field and just because they come home doesn't mean the war goes away. The war is still waging in their heads. Some to the extent that they can't cope in society anymore.
Teaching children to shoot and kill someone using a MILITARY OR GUN SIMULATOR is immoral. We should be teaching children responsibility and the proper respect for guns, not teaching them that it's a toy. We also need to be teaching them how to handle their problems sensibly and morally and not solving their problems through violence.
Then how do you explain the darkness that existed in the past even when there weren't video games, TV or movies? We have had some very demonic times in this world's history. There's more to this cultural rot than just the current enablers of video games & movies. They are symptoms of the underlying disease - not the cause.
As for PTSD, that's been around since the beginning of our fall from Grace. No one takes another life without the ramifications of that act. Even if it's justified in battle.
We seem to agree, but the government clamping down on anything & everything they deem violent isn't going to help. I've had progressives tell me I'm horrible for reading the Bible and Bible 'stories' to my children because it's a violent book. THAT is what I fear when I start up on my soap box for 1st Amendment rights.
The rest of this issue resides in personal responsibility. The shooters made the personal choice to pick up the weapon they did and walk down and commit evil atrocities. Perhaps some of them where on drugs (legal or not) that made their thinking process whacked. Perhaps some had personality disorders. Perhaps some had parents who didn't give a rat's rear end and therefore never taught morality and right from wrong. In the end, it still doesn't change the fact that the shooters themselves committed the act. Those that didn't kill themselves should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. We are creatures of free will and therefore responsible for our actions.
I agree Amy. The world has ALWAYS been a violent place, but for the same reason I don;t give my 9 year old the car keys, I also don't allow him to play Call of Duty. I do play Call of Duty from time to time, but even I, as an adult refuse to play the level where I'm expected to join a group of terrorists, walk into a crowded airport mall and open up on innocent men and women. It is despicable that they would even PUT that in the game.
Simulating fighting evil is one thing. Killing innocent people in cold blood is another thing entirely. As a society we are better than that. That's what separates us from third world countries.
But to the point of children, their minds are not capable of handling that sort of senseless violence, and it is no wonder they are simulating it in real life.
I recently sat and watched a teenager play the new Call of Duty online on YouTube. He was obviously a gamer because he was really good at it. But as he played I watched his face as he took in the violence he was expected to engage in, and even HE admitted much of the game was grotesque. After watching the game, I refused to buy it. ("choice" at work I know) I couldn't play something that was just that vile. The old games weren't that bad. You knew there was a real enemy -- nazis. Even the earlier Modern Warfare version wasn't that bad. But they've grown progressively worse.
A child who is unstable or comes from a horrible home life and has no good stable moral upbringing, will take that violence and replicate it in real life. No one taught him to express his anger in healthy ways, so he expresses it in the only way he's accustomed to -- violence.
All of these mass murderers have been relatively young. Teens to college age.
I don't think the issue is whether you can or cannot buy it. The issue is: IS VIDEO GAME VIOLENCE CONTRIBUTING TO CHILDREN SHOOTING CHILDREN?
And the answer is YES!
You can't feed your mind on violence and expect to come out the other end virtuous. Why do you suppose so many soldiers have issues returning from war? They are constantly inundated with violence on the battle field and just because they come home doesn't mean the war goes away. The war is still waging in their heads. Some to the extent that they can't cope in society anymore.
Teaching children to shoot and kill someone using a MILITARY OR GUN SIMULATOR is immoral. We should be teaching children responsibility and the proper respect for guns, not teaching them that it's a toy. We also need to be teaching them how to handle their problems sensibly and morally and not solving their problems through violence.
Amy that has virtually nothing to do with the point of the app. It is to indoctrinate youngsters like your self. into believing that this is o.k. When in reality that entire premise of the game is criminal at it's core. Which indicates that the designer is to. If anyone is remote hurt because of this persons leftist behavior, then he and the person that initiates the harm are BOTH at fault. You can not have a fight of any kind with only one party. That goes against all natural law. Not man's law, but NATURAL LAW the law of GOD.
Whether to indoctrinate or not, once we go down the slope of picking and choosing what fits under the First Amendment we lose those rights ourselves.
So NOW the founders intended the First Amendment to cover violent video games that simulate murdering innocent people?
That's a leap, and I'm not a libertarian!
If the video game showed Obama being murdered, would we endorse that too? If you say yes, then that's just deranged. I'd expect that from a liberal but not a Conservative.
The law has already established that there are limits to the first amendment. You can't threaten the president's life. There are certain limits on sexual pornography such as child pornography that are not covered under the First Amendment.
The First Amendment isn't a "free-for-all" do whatever the heck you want document. It operates within the parameters of morality.
"Because we have no government, armed with power, capable of contending with human passions, unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice (greed), ambition, revenge and licentiousness (Lacking moral discipline or ignoring legal restraint) would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. " - John Adams
Which I explained to Amy that we have not had in the country: unless you are stupid rich or in the commie media for 175 plus years. The only reason we are all on here is that they have not figured out to CONTROL IT. Free enterprise is a direct form of of the 1st amendment and look what this Nazi group is doing with that.
LMAO - I'm no youngster so back the self righteous truck up a little. I'm also well aware of God's laws & nature's laws, thank you. I'm also well aware of this little thing we espouse called personal responsibility. Either we believe it - or we don't & we assign the blame for all our ills on whomever or whatever we don't like at the moment...
You say that it takes my a mighty long time to get the point, Right? So how is it that it has taken you this long to come to that awakening? J Like I said, your fun!
You say that it takes my a mighty long time to get the point, Right? So how is it that it has taken you this long to come to that awakening? J Like I said, your fun!
I didn't ask because I care what you think... I asked because you seem to spend a lot of time trying to convince me that the current administration is criminal. I already believe that. Most likely, you and I agree on much more than we disagree on.
I didn't ask because I care what you think... I asked because you seem to spend a lot of time trying to convince me that the current administration is criminal. I already believe that. Most likely, you and I agree on much more than we disagree on.
First of all Amy: welcome back Secondly I assume nothing. I do not believe that you are an ass. I know beyond a shadow of doubt that I personally most certainly am not. But seeing how you asked. It is quite clear that you have sense of rightness. This indicates that you care, hence there is no way in the fiery pit of the lake that you could be a zombicrat, or for that matter an idiot. What does concern me though is why it seems to be important to you. For instance I could personally care less what people think of me. I am me, people either accept me or they do not, their choice. Notice I use “CHIOCE” there. However my person view is that you have gracious concern as to what take place and where as well as at what point. So God Bless ya kiddo. Your fun to talk with.
First of all Amy: welcome back Secondly I assume nothing. I do not believe that you are an ass. I know beyond a shadow of doubt that I personally most certainly am not. But seeing how you asked. It is quite clear that you have sense of rightness. This indicates that you care, hence there is no way in the fiery pit of the lake that you could be a zombicrat, or for that matter an idiot. What does concern me though is why it seems to be important to you. For instance I could personally care less what people think of me. I am me, people either accept me or they do not, their choice. Notice I use “CHIOCE” there. However my person view is that you have gracious concern as to what take place and where as well as at what point. So God Bless ya kiddo. Your fun to talk with.
Thanks for reminding me how old I am sDee...sheesh!
I don't remember them getting any backing for it though.
BibBear52 - are you laboring under the assumption that I'm a democrat or liberal? If so, you would be mistaken.
Again Amy: please educate yourself. Please: you tell all of us the last time the 1st amendment actually mattered for a tax payer in this country. That is as direct as I can be. I guarantee I am way more of an advocate for the Constitution then 99.85% of this wonderful country of ours. Just this week I have written both my Congressmen, the state capital and the White House. I do not referee to Obama as the title would have us do. I actually, to his face if he were here, Call him by what he is doing to OUR country “ODILDO” Excuse the vulgar verbiage but that is precisely what he, by order of the commies that CONTROL HIM dictate to him. The first amendment has only been used in the last 175 years to advance the strength of those that abuse it most of all. Mainly the media! And those that are truly cowards that hide behind it and other amendments. In every court room in this land, unless you are rich or super well known, you best just sit there and shut your mouth. If not, generally you are threatened with contempt. To protest and exercise your 1st amendment right takes a permit costing anywhere from 10 to 3000 dollars. The occupiers claimed there right to freedom of expression and over 4500 rapes occurred just in New York alone. You and I cannot walk down any street in Chicago for fear of being killed because some freak thinks his right is more of a right than yours. The worst offender of this tainted design, is the Illegals. They, when accused of some Heinous crime, cry foul and suddenly cannot speak our native tong. And get a private attorney where you and I get a county paid mouth that is in fear of job loss if they do not play along. So yes their freedom of speech, expression and numerous others are out the blooming window.
Here ya go... From a post further on down in resonse to you.
My original point is about the freedom the 1st amendment affords for even those who I don't agree with. I don't want the government censuring anything because once they start, they then decide what is fit for public consumption. Eventually, (as I'm sure you can attest to) they decide that my Bible, or the federalist papers, or the constitution isn't fit for anyone to read. At that point, I have no point of egress because I've already given them the right to censure. I just let them start with the things I didn't like.
Tell you what Amy: I’ll give you the benefit of doubt here. If you can explain in one small paragraph, your point, have at it. Now before you start: note how I put that. Oh and by the way this game app has virtually nothing to do with the 1st Amendment. Until the idiot that made the game is in need of it for personal agenda. Also bear in mind that it is inciting to commit VIOLENT ACTS AGAINST OTHERS. The way I put my phrase there actually LIMITS your RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH which has truly existed in this country, for that matter any other, since way before you and I were ever thought of let alone born. So in brief, what is your point. The floor is yours! One final thing. My speaking of things in my past was not to gain sympathy, but indeed to have you see that outside sources would have us believe things that are nowhere near the truth! So please fill me on your precise point
I've already responded in another post. Perhaps in that post you will understand my point. Other than that, your emotional response has you rambling about personal past that I am not privvy to.
Also, why do you fight me & my view that the 1st amendment applies to even things we don't like when you've seen first hand what government oppression can do?
Now your talking MANCHURIANISM. You call me self -righteous yet don’t wish to fight. So what phrase would put on the remark as to what I am speaking of. Self- right, NO. Defender of this country and a patriot with first hand knowledge of what socialist gun control does, yes. Excessively first hand. Spending nearly two years in a cesspool of tyrannical fanatics gives anyone the self-right to speak in that manner. The cesspool Amy is called the Milled east. Where I had the grievous displeasure of being sold out and lost 14 of the best brothers anyone ever had because some son of a biscuit eater wanted to get re-elected to seat he had no business filling with the communist butt. So self-righteous, you bet toots!
Yes, I was in the unpopular minority then when I opposed Tipper's push. It made for lazy parenting. It appears I'm in the minority on this issue as well. Which I'm oddly fine with...
I am old enough to remember when Al and Tipper Gore were the darlings of conservatives and the religious right when then came out as the champions of our youth with a campaign against "offensive" song lyrics.
As all that Gore does - it was all about subverting the First Amendment and political control - never about the kids.

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