The Right Scoop- SpikeT
Obama apologizes=troops die.
- kong1967
Exactly, but according to him he saved lives…..something he cannot prove (as usual). A weak stance costs lives and emboldens our enemies.
- Trust1TG
Rather a duplicitous, unconscionable and treasonous stance.
- MiketheMarine
Right, he saves lives and has saved or created 12 gazillion jobs with his porkulus.
- MiketheMarine
I’m fairly certain that Standard Operating Procedures, like burning any paper found with insurgent info be destroyed, comes from flag rank and politicians. Nobody that low ranked does anything without orders. I’ve got no problem with prosecuting the guilty parties. I wonder what politicians have their fingerprints on writing these SOPs. What General should be reduced in rank to private, all compensation forfeited and given a less than honorable discharge.
Never happen….
- Amy
I hope not, but I’m beyong pissed about it right now.
- MiketheMarine
Don’t fret, dear Lady. Military and vets are easy political targets but we are also the ones with all the weapons and balls to do something about a serious disservice. They know this too. It is just part of the mickey mouse crap that is the US Military and Gov’t.
- JimmyBleep
Dover Airforce Base comes to mind. The closer the rank gets to Washington, the more they act like the monsters in Washington.
- kong1967
Nope, won’t happen. The soldiers doing what they are supposed to do get punished for carrying out orders. I would think twice before joining the military while a liberal was in power. How they can claim to respect our soldiers is disgusting. They don’t, and it’s obvious.
- warpmine
Everyone slapped me down when I said the military should have told Obama to kiss off and prove is eligibility for the POTUS because they said it would push us down the slippery slope. Well, what do we have now….progressive utopia, absolute lawlessness from the people that use it to gain political power. Nice knowing you, cya on the other side.
- kong1967
Ah, I can understand why they said that. We can’t have a rogue military that takes everything into it’s own hands because of the circumstances revolving around Obama. This needs to be handled by the law…NEEDS to be. Unfortunately every effort was shot down by judges saying the person had no standing. Who has standing? It’s a sad day when the law means nothing and a man can get into the Oval Office without proof of identity….and I still find his birth certificate to be fishy (produced out of thin air many months after he spent a million bucks to hide it).
But, I don’t want the military getting involved unless it’s a last ditch effort to save the country. Think about it. We had soldiers refusing to go fight for Bush. Who’s to decide when the military should step in?
Some day that may be necessary, but I don’t think it is now.
What did you mean by “nice knowing you, cya on the other side”? Sounds like you’re giving up.
- warpmine
Does the bulk of the military have standing? Since they have to risk life and limb literally, shouldn’t they be given proof positive that all orders are to be legal?
Those soldiers never questioned his authority they just refused to fight for conscientious reasoning. Lt Col. Lakin wanted proof of O’s legal authority to issue orders and it comes down to what we have now, a worthless sack of shyt with no spine.
Oh btw, the country’s finished after this ass is kicked to the side in November for many other reasons before he came to power and well we deserve it for letting the enemy have it’s way with the finances of the United States of America.
Do you read Ann Barnhardt? If not search and read, it will simply depress you after you settle from your rage.
- kong1967
I see what you’re saying with the difference with why the soldiers refused to go to Iraq for Bush and the ones that want proof of Obama’s authority to issue orders. I agree that if ANYONE should have standing it should be the soldiers. Until the courts rule that Obama is an illegal President there’s probably nothing we can do except wait him out and hope we can recover after he’s done.
That reminds me, a friend of mine told me that the Arizona Sheriff (Joe Arpaio) had Obama’s recently revealed birth certificate investigated. I guess he said it’s a forgery and they have proof. They also know where it was forged at, but they don’t know by who. It was on the news, evidently. I’ll have to check it out, and hopefully they’re able to do something about it. There’s no way Obama can say he had nothing to do with it because if he had his birth certificate he wouldn’t need another forged (and would denounce anyone trying to put one up other than the one he had in his possession). If he didn’t have a birth certificate to begin with (his was burned or something), he would immediately know for himself that the produced certificate on his behalf is a fraud.
I’ve never heard of Ann Barnhardt. I’ll have to check that out, too. Thanks.
- JimmyBleep
Nobody should be punished for this at any rank. No apologies should be made for prisoners who were insubordinate that were caught and had their secret missives destroyed. WTF is wrong with our military? They used to be the only piece of government that worked well.
- MiketheMarine
I’ve said it before. It is worse today than in used to be but almost all warriors who earn a star (General) trade in their warrior spirits to become souless politicians. CYA is their motto.
- JimmyBleep
Disgusting.
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe
I never looked at it from that perspective
It actually makes sense now !
Terrible
- steprock
What would G. Patton say?
“Apologize? You want ME to apologize to some #@&(* foreigner for what MY troops did? **!??!! Get me a box of Korans and a match, and I’ll light ‘em up right here!”
I was gonna edit that, but it’s Breitbart Day.
- warpmine
This is precisely what happens when you promote officers that don’t deserve it. The last four decades have seen the worst promotion in military history. You don’t promote because that person is due his turn, you do so to because that person has gone above what is expected of him/her. Id say 75% of the officer core needs to be booted.
- Boris_Badenoff
Tell me just what are the soldiers that burned the Korans are guilty of?
You say no problem prosecuting the guilty parties, well just what are they guilty of?
- Boris_Badenoff
Tell me just what are the soldiers that burned the Korans are guilty of?
You say no problem prosecuting the guilty parties, well just what are they guilty of?
- johnos2112
Just get the troops out of there now! They are gonna be in serious danger if they are not already.
- kong1967
Sounds to me like not only are they not ruling it out, but they are more than likely going to do it. Just like good little lefties. Punish our protectors and bow to the Muslims who want to cut our heads off.
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6KRHXVK5ZCSWJ5GJQ5Z6GIJICA Dax
Time to leave so they can destroy themselves.
- Trust1TG
NO more men, money or regard for any muslim country.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Donald-Arey-III/100001713622116 Donald Arey III
If I were one of those troops, I would be calling my senator right about now. My family would be too. I’m not going to go on trial for doing something under lawful order without a huge fight.
- Trust1TG
What a farce.
There is NO CULPABILITY whatsoever.
Warning – Woe be unto you if you allow this – Obama.
Americans will NOT stand for this kind of kangaroo court.
Americans, mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, widows and widowers, orphans and friends of soldiers who have served in the Hellish lands of Islam, will march on the Pentagon and White House if they dare to even attempt to do such a dishonest duplicitous thing to our troops.
Warning to Iran – Woe be unto you if you dare execute Pastor Nadarkhani and take his two sons into Islam.
Warning to all followers of Islam – Woe be unto you if you do not repent and reform and cease from your evil ways.
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe
If only half of that happens – I would jump for joy!
- keninil
The only “proceedings” we should be having is proceeding out of the country. Yes there are many inequalities there, but until the indigenous people want them fixed, we can’t force them – to not stone women, not educate women, not treat women as second class citizens. If the MSM story is to be believed 9/11 was caused by a guy that lived in Pakistan – not Afganistan – so we invaded the wrong country – what screwups we are! We need to just leave!!
- anneinarkansas
Bring our troops home and let Afghanistan go down the tubes.
Send Bam to help them alongl. - JoelDick
I think Obama should go to Afghanistan personally to apologize. This Friday after prayers is convenient. To make his visit as effective as possible, I suggest he mingles with the crowd to show solidarity.
- NYGino
He could roll out a prayer rug and stick his butt in the direction of America. This time literally.
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe
GREAT idea!
Bring Michelle too – in a burqa, of course
- JoelDick
Not a good idea. Next thing you know, she’ll be back home pushing our kids to eat hummus.
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe
That’s just disgusting
I was hoping they would enjoy it soo much – They would stay (in the desert)
- Trust1TG
US Teacher dies in Iraq school shooting: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57388372/american-gym-teacher-dies-in-iraq-school-shooting/
- NYGino
All right, you tell us there isn’t any doubts in the mind of the Afgan govt. that that is exactly how it is going to go, why don’t you tell us what exactly is in the mind of our govt?
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe
Mind of the govt ?? – LOL!
What is that anyway! –
- NYGino
What was I thinking?
- toongoon
What enemy in the history of the world has had to just simply wait for the leaders to turn over their fighters?
Our servicemen are sitting ducks sitting in that wasteland called the Middle East. Held there by a dictator who has no cares whatsoever but being reelected. As Jeremiah Wright would say; — D@mn him.
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe
Another reason to bring everyone back – take our “toys” with us – or blow the “toys” to bits
Surround the area with battleships and carriers and monitor with drones
OOPS! – Almost forgot – After we leave – Turn the area into glass if they get out of hand
- toongoon
Is glass a good alternative to ice? It could be the biggest hockey rink in the world.
- c4pfan
Isn’t Track going back there?
IDK what to make of it. Sounds like the usual of all politics right now. Just trying to re-define words to wiggle out of things.
- PAWatcher
At least SIX of America’s finest have been killed, some shot in the head from behind by the religion of peace for burning a book used by prisoners to send enemy correspondence. This warrants an apology from obama to calm them and possible prosecution of the soldiers involved in the burning……….obama is out to demoralize our troops and US. This will backfire on him!
- toongoon
At this point there is only one person, well maybe his whole administration, that I want to see on trial.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Tom-Camp/1608442478 Tom Camp
Wow. Just wow.
Does anyone seriously think that getting rid of this administration should not be the top priority of all people that truly love this country?
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OQI5D66OXO7X2FE4NVCZC7BAMA Joe
The problem is that only WE know about this nonsense
The MSM IS on the payroll – No doubt in my mind
- c4pfan
Like the GOP would be any different? Get real.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Tom-Camp/1608442478 Tom Camp
Yes, I do think the GOP would be different – a lot different. Just compare voting records of Dems and Reps. The differences are stark.
Do I think the GOP is as good as it should be? Not by a long shot. But they are far, far better than the Dems. And the GOP could not produce a President as bad as Obama no matter how hard they tried.
- 911Infidel
Really? And hey dipweed which article in the UCMJ did they violate? Huh? Where does it say in the UCMJ that burning a Koran with coded messages in it by low-life pit-dwellers is a crime? Or maybe the dufous thinks that now Afghan law supercedes US law. Tell you what Mr US Embassador, if you or anyone else in this evil administration prosecute those soldiers, I hope that the entire Army and Marine Corps picks up their rucks and departs the AO after giving you a can of whoop-a$$ on the way out.
- ryanomaniac
It’s not how far are we gonna bend its how far are we gonna bend over.
- jerryrob
I just listened to Oliver North on the Sean Hannity show talking about this couran burning. There were four courans being used by detainees to pass messages. Writing is the couran is a desecration and is against their law and is punishable. These courans were already desecrated by these detainees because they were changing the words of mohammed by writing in them. Our troops were following orders from people who were in charge of the library that was being provided for these detainees. Some of the people in charge of this library are aphgan officials. I think it is criminal for these troops to be punished in any way for stoping the transmission of messages by the detainees. They were doing their jobs. Protect our troops and to hell with aphganistan.
- sjmom
Shame on Obama and his administration!
- Sober_Thinking
This jack-wagon is a deer in the headlights. He’s the kid everyone beat up for his lunch money. He’s the only boy who took Home Economics as an elective in his senior year.
The fact that they are even “hinting” at this is revolting. This goober ought to offer himself up to their heathen lust… let them take it out on him.
Leave those reprobates to themselves… defund them, pull out, then blow up all the facilities we built while there… leave them nothing but their own revolting de-evolution. Let them eat their own.
- PChandler
Universal rights are universal and international law ain’t sharia law. Simply as that.
There’s no universal right that says troglodytes can assault, commit battery upon, murder, massacre and commit genocide against people who burn texts, books that have been utilized by terrorists to pass on information to coordinate attacks against NATO troops.
Nothing justifies the unjustifiable and no one can defend the undefendable.
- virginiagentleman1
Swine! Animals! Filth! And that just my opinion of this Admin, Obama, the Ambassador, and a chickensh!t Commanding General!
There is no reasoning with sub-human swine like the Muslims. Simply put, they have an enemy, in me.
They burn bibles, murder christians and jews, and have a cowardly obama protecting them.Iran has up to 800 sleeper cells in America waiting to be activated, according to an Iranian defector now working for the CIA.
The war has come to our shores. - http://www.facebook.com/susan.leach1 Susan Leach
There had better not be. That I think would be a bridge just to damn far for most Americans. To even give credence to “putting our Soldiers on trial for blasphemy”, is horrific. One charge, one attempt at trial and we should pick up our torches and pitchforks and head for DC. This can not be allowed to happen.
- steprock
First and foremost: They deserve better leaders than you. You should have their back and stand up for American troops, sir.
(Thanks to Andrew Breitbart for the boldness.)
Second: at the very least, this rules out NATO hearings. And I do mean, at the very least.
- aZjimbo
Somebody better stand up for our men and women over in that hellhole.
- Nukeman60
‘Perhaps the best method of disposal of sheets of paper on which Qur’anic verses are written is to burn them…An alternative is to bury these papers‘
http://www.ourdialogue.com/q4.htm
So it seems that it is better to burn desecrated Korans than to bury them. They tried to say burying the books was the preferred method, when in fact it is only an alternate way, when the burning method is the preferred method.
Obama, are you listening? If it’s military policy to burn Bibles that are unsolicited, it’s also military policy to burn Korans, you sorry excuse of a CiC. The men that burned these books did the proper thing. They were already desecrated.
What we should do, if there are proceedings against these men, is to picket the White House in massive protests to the point the LSM can’t ignore this and make this a campaign issue.
- denbren52
Please bear with me on the length of this comment (I feel inspired.)
I’m beginning to see a clearer pattern emerging in Obama’s approach to dealing with his foolish subjects: First he floats the most outrageous scenario either directly or by leaking the information to the press. We, his foolish subjects, get all upset and vent our outrage to anyone who will listen. Then Obama, more openly involved this time, offers a much less outrageous alternative albeit still outrageous. The foolish subjects, according to his plan, are placated or, if not completely satisfied, are reminded by the royal criers (that would be the LSM), that His Majesty’s solution is far less severe that what we were squawking about earlier in the week.
Example 1: The idea is floated that our soldiers might be turned over to the Afghans for a public trial for their offense of burning the Quran. After the subjects have vented their anger and frustration all week over something that would never happen, the noble King placates his angry peasants with the news that any persecution of the soldiers will be handles in accordance with UCM. Still outrageous but much less than what was floated earlier.
Example 2: The idea is floated, this time by an underling Secretary of HHS Sebelius that all religious institutions will be subject to the royal decree that contraceptives and even abortion pills must be provided by insurance plans paid for by these institutions no matter what their silly region might think about the murder of innocent children. Later, His Royal Smugness “solves” this impasse by declaring a new royal edict whereby the Insurance companies under his power will provide these same contraceptive and baby-killing pills free of charge so that no one has to violate their conscience. Of course, the solution is just as outrageous, but we are reminded by the royal press that his solution is equal to the wisdom of Solomon and it’s time for us to be still and return to our villages.
The more I examine his patterns, this is what I’m seeing and his loyal sheeple keep falling for the rouse.
You would think that we would denounce any idea of ‘proceedings’ against any of the troops involved in the appropriate Koran burnings. I mean, we’ve apologized at least 3 times and around 4 of our soldiers have been killed and many more injured.
But when the US Ambassador is asked about this by Fox News, he seems to hint that there could very well be ‘proceedings’ against our troops (via CNS News):
If there are to be proceedings, they are going to be U.S. proceedings under the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) — and I don’t think there is any question or doubt on the part of the Afghan government that that is exactly how it’s going to go.
He doesn’t dismiss it or rule it out, and he certainly doesn’t denounce it. So just how far over are we going to bend?
Here’s the audio:
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