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Liberals are like Westboro, jumping to exploit any tragedy after it happens. While Westboro blames gays and America after every tragedy, liberals blame guns and their political opponents.
Just think of the teachers who died (courageously) trying to stop the gunman, yet if they had guns and training, they would likely be alive today along with many of the children!
You have to love these liberals (senators , mayors) who want to take away our guns while they surround themselves with armed protection all the time. Eric Holder comes out talking gun control - yea the same guy behind Fast and Furious! If he was smart he would have kept quiet, now he put another target on himself to motivate new talks on F&F. Just remember Marxism can never be implemented as long as the population is armed - try to see the bigger motivation to take away our guns.
First off this group is in no way Baptist or Christian - that is clear. No person of faith, Christian (any denomination) or Judaism would do something like this.
I sometimes think this is a left wing extreme group trying to inspire the taking away freedom of speech rights - what better way! The Tea Party was many time infiltrated by left wing nut jobs saying races things (spies were caught on video - utube proof), only to be push out by the tea party themselves (so the tea party is self regulating).
You are never going to prevent psychotically disturbed people from getting guns (steal them, get them like every other criminal does), so the only thing you really can do is allow someone on the inside to have a gun (training required) to deter the threat. I assure you if someone pulls out a gun in a theatre here in Texas, he might get a few shots off, but he will quickly be taken down in moments with someone carrying a gun (CHL-background checks, no criminal backgrounds).
They will preach law and God's judgement all day long, but odd how we never hear of the goodness of God's mercy found in His Gospel. Life being found in his Son's life, death and resurrection through faith. That's how you can tell they are wolves and false teachers. They are FAR worse for Christianity than any Christopher Hitchens could ever be.
Wow, what a thread. I hate what Westboro does, but not them individually. When you hate somebody you become just like them. Look what Dan Rather's hatred of Nixon did to him.
When you hate somebody you become just like them.
That's bull. Simplistic, naive, comic-book morality. I hate Hitler. Does that make me like Hitler? I hate murderers. Does that make me a murderer?
Why are these people so hateful.. God's mercy on their souls..
May the Good Lord reach into their hearts and rip them out of their hateful bodies and end their miserable lives. !! Amen
“You are the salt of the earth, but if salt has lost its taste, how shall its saltiness be restored? It is no longer good for anything except to be thrown out and trampled under people’s feet."
God will deal with your wicked, apostate, lying church Westboro... you are glorifying nothing but your own ignorance and evil.
This is NOT free speech... It is wicked and corrupt. You should disolve your church and disband your membership so that people can emerge from the remnants of your ruin and find God again.
Please do not confuse these people with Christians. It is a cult and should be seen as one.
Please tell me the police will keep these people away, or look the other way while decent citizens teach these people a lesson.
i keep reading all these comments about God this and God that, what i want to know is why God thought that this psyco had more of a right to kill these little children than they had to live? god is love? he really showed it to those little children. and what about the children whose faith has a stumbling block put in front of it and stumble? what did Jesus say about any one who would cause the children to stumble? that it would be better for them if a mill stone was tied around their neck and they were thrown into the sea.
I may be amiss in not recognizing you or welcoming you to Scoop if you are new. Either way, I am glad you are here and joining in this important discussion.
I see AmericanBorninCanada has provided with you with a great reply above. It's normal to ask these questions and I turned to Ravi (see link in ABinC's response for link) earlier this week as well.
I am a long-time scholar of the Holocaust and have asked the same questions many, many, many times. How could God allow such evil to occur especially the senseless murder of children who had not lived any life before having it brutally taken from them. I find the answers in scripture and also from those who lived through the atrocities, bore witness and have the courage to educate the world so history is not repeated.
As you can see, many of those that join the discussion at Scoop are God-loving and country-loving people. I am looking forward to more discussions with you.
I understand your frustration searcher0. While I can't explain it very well, let me say that God didn't give the order for this guy to do what he did. It sounds like you know what the Bible says, for you know Jesus' warning about causing little ones to stumble. They definitely will have a lot to answer to come judgement day.
God doesn't cause these things to happen- our fallen nature does. We have removed Him from our schools, taught our children that they come from slime, are no more than animals and have shown them that life is something that can be thrown away by abortion. Kids are perceptive. They see things and with the "entertainment" we have allowed them, movies which depict dads as stupid, moms as disrespectful, not to mention the kinds of music that's out these days, is it any wonder why some kids grow up hating and not knowing any kind of respect?
We've replaced God with government, and in schools the 10 commandments and prayer was thrown out, and cops and metal detectors take the place.
God didn't cause this my friend. We did. We can only turn to Him in these times and seek wisdom from Him on how to change things to help our children so they don't grow up without hope, without knowing respect for themselves and others, without knowing how precious all life is.
Please watch if you haven't seen it on another Scoop thread searcher0- Ravi can say it so much better than I can..http://www.therightscoop.com/ravi-zacharias-on-how-a-good-god-allow-evil-to-happen/
And you can find more of his wisdom here:http://www.rzim.org/?s=Why+bad+things+happen&x=21&y=18
I hope you find some answers. But please seek what Jesus has to say.
One more thing, I have been taking more comfort from Psalm 37 this year for many things...http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%2037&version=KJV
Your children listen to this:
Eftos Kill Your Parents - Lyrics
Active Nihilism - Kill your parents
Make them pay - Hate and destroy
Silencing the void - Pleasure revenge
Wipe them out, Bastards get what they deserve!
Nihilist supreme - Erasing
It is no killing - Useless corpse
Out of the Nothing - No feedback from anyone
The media will now paint these guys as legitimate Christians. This is what bothers me the most.
This group of twisted hateful people is not a church nor is it 'Baptist'...it is a political cult based on hate, like Islam.
But still we must look on the bright side:
1. The Westboro crowd only protests, harrasses and make asses of themselves; they don't (as far as we know) bomb or shoot, decapitate or rape anyone, take over or infiltrate other countries like Islam.
2. We can, for the time being, speak out and tell the truth about Islam and Obama and the rest of the permanent political parasites without being hauled to jail to face blasphemy charges before an UN or USSA tribunal.
This group reminds me of Muslims...yes I said Muslims not radical Muslims....Putting the children out front......sickening
PS...no such thing as a "radical" Muslim...if you are Muslim then your Koran calls for you to kill infidels....so you either are or are not Muslim
Sick to soul but at least they aren't bombing anyone. Bombs and IAD's may kill me but words won't unless it's an order from Obama.
Maybe someone should get these people a one way ticket to Afghanistan and let them rant there and see how long they live! This really is an abuse of their freedoms!
Sing praise for the deaths of innocent children? You are in no way christains when you praise tragedies. Your a pathetic, pitiful excuse for a church body.
That's my feeling too. At some point the vile perversions of these hateful people become so extreme that we move beyond mere rhetoric and move to fists. These A-holes need to be beaten to a pulp.
The wackos are coming out of the closet - seems to be all the rage. In that spirit, some idiot at The Economist weighs in that the only solution is to take away all the guns. I guess he did not study what happened when the population is disarmed .. but oh, what tyrants do is "legal" because they pass the laws.
The REALLY bad and (this will sound bad) good news is that these people are allowed to procreate and instill this same vile thinking into young minds.....
Those talking about "turning the other cheek" are better than I. I would turn the bat loose on a few of their heads. Of course not literally but they could use a could azz whupping
Veteran biker gang protects the funeral of a fallen soldier 3/5/11
"The Patriot Guard have ARRIVED!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXTOlqb0f9o
Let the same Patriots protect the family of the victims of this evil! God willing! If you are one of those Patriots reading this, first thank you... Next get out there and do what you do to make sure those poor family do NOT have to even see those scum sucking satanic wastes of air and their heartless evil signs of evil!!! God Bless you!
TEA PARTY Conservatives! THIS is a TIME!! Go out there! STAND Against this EVIL! Shun these bastards, mock them! Marginalize them! Show them up for the sick sad, sacks of horse manure they truly are!
Show these poor families that REAL Americans, of good honest intent feel their grief... Are saddened in their souls and hearts for them!
Please guys... Do what you MUST to keep these Satanic POS away from the innocent families of the victims of true EVIL!!
Now, everyone who reads this... Please stop whatever you are doing... And just pray for a minute to God for the innocent souls of the victims... And their families who must live with this horror! And if you can find it in your being... To pray to God to throw the shitbag of a killer into Hell to be eternally punished! Each day a new torture!!! NEVER to be redeemed !!!
Fly our flag, the US flag.. Fly our Gadsden flag!! Defiance is the new Patriotism!
TEA PARTY Conservatives! THIS is a TIME!! Go out there! STAND Against this EVIL! Shun these bastards, mock them! Marginalize them! Show them up for the sick sad, sacks of horse manure they truly are!
Show these poor families that REAL Americans, of good honest intent feel their grief... Are saddened in their souls and hearts for them!
Please guys... Do what you MUST to keep these Satanic POS away from the innocent families of the victims of true EVIL!!
Now, everyone who reads this... Please stop whatever you are doing... And just pray for a minute to God for the innocent souls of the victims... And their families who must live with this horror! And if you can find it in your being... To pray to God to throw the shitbag of a killer into Hell to be eternally punished! Each day a new torture!!! NEVER to be redeemed !!!
Fly our flag, the US flag.. Fly our Gadsden flag!! Defiance is the new Patriotism!
If the shoe was on the other foot and it were their little children laying in a pool of blood, what would Westboro say then?
What would Christians do, go protest their tragedy? I think not.
Them sick bastards would probably proclaim it a blessing from god (small g)! They are those kind of people we used to keep locked away in institutions before... And should consider locking up again!!!
I think God, Christian and Church is a complete FRAUD with Westboro. They are evil and Godless people.
many times Landscaper, most ugly thorns exists with most beautiful sweet smelling ROSE ! Life may be so unfair, still God work in a mysterious way
The Sandy school children were attacked and are now REST IN PEACE IN THEIR MAKERS ARM. These Baptist Protesting kids are also spiritually dead although still walking, and need to be set free from this burden of hate and high minded spirit, holier than you spirit.
I didn't compare the two!!!!!!!!!!!!! Read closer...... they are a FRAUD. There is nothing about them that says god, christ or church. They are a FRAUD.
Doofus. Don't judge Christians by the westboro nuts. Why do think there are so few in their tiny little church?
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