Let's see you make your way to a mainstream Web site and say these things. Or, don't you want everyone knowing what kinds of "media" you are actually following?
We still own (the US citizens) a big part of GM. AND Obama is allowing them to build a plant costing $80 billion, in communist China before they pay US back what they owe. Chrysler paid back most of their stimulus and Ford took none and they are surviving. I would't buy a GM car if it was half price and you can blame Obama for that. That's the reason that GM is not #1 anymore, it is Chrysler, Ford and GM just squeaking by in third place.
You guys are idiot, in what part did he promise something? Ah, the govt. education system. Even the actual workers at the facility stated that Pres. Obama didn't promise anything. Go back to polishing your rifles and spewing creationism.
When the Big 0 implies and insinuates, the leftoids deny he said it. When he accidently says the truth, "It's taken out of context." I'm not a church-goer so from my vantage point it looks like it takes more faith to believe in El Presidente than God. And BTW, Kevin, My rifle is polished, lubed... and loaded.
As long as we're playing ignore the proof and claim otherwise, I think my next move will be to say I didn't really add you to "the list."
But so long, anyway, and thanks for playing.
I wasn't aware the President was responsible to make sure specific companies in specific states keep the jobs...I thought that was the Governor's job.
People are also missing one important word in Ryan's speech. He was talking about candidate obama not president.
Obama's whole hope was based on the "Green economy" and "electric cars" which we all know has been a colossal failure. They were doomed from his conceptual idea. No basis in reality just "hope and dreams" like a 10 year old.
The best thing that can happen for the GOP is that this story is ignored. BO makes no promises in it, and says that ".. if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to retool.." The plant closed in December that year. This can be a strong message for how the GOP policies failed this plant after he laid out how it could be saved.
Ryan bringing it up during the RNC could seriously backfire on him during his one debate with Biden. He should be able to make Biden look like the political idiot he is. But these slips could given Biden enough material to deflate Ryan's performance.
Can't argue with words and video. This has got to be sweet vindication for Paul Ryan, not that I doubted what he said. Super job Mr. Kerpen for finding this speech. As for Obama promising that this plant ..... when re-tooled....would stay open for another 100 years...I am wondering if he already had The Chevy Volt spinning around in his little head with the production at this site? BTW, GM is suspending production of the Volt for the next quarter. Might resume production in 2013 depending on demand. What evah!!!
Thank you so much RS for keeping us all so informed and intellectually fit with all of your posts. Appreciated much.
Right Scoop....We need this over to HotAir with Ed Morrissey...Ace of Spades....Fox.....Hannity....Drudge Report....Rush.....Townhall....Weekly Standard....Breitbart....Instapundit....lets get this all over the place.....NBC will do nothing....but Fox News can force their hand.....get over to Red State as well!!
It doesn't matter if Ryan was correct or not. The media got their marching orders from "Talking Points Memo", and they are Required to follow the script.
I could care less about the MSM..when will people like you wake up!! 28 percent of the people believe the MSM...I am amazed how dumb people are. No this needs to go to the New Media and out from that...I could care less about NBC, ABC, CBS and NYT....LOL....you must be kidding...getting this out to YouTube and Drudge and other conservative sites and then TWITTED is how you effect things...the Networks were left in the dust decades ago....see their News Ratings...it is s joke....God Wake UP!
Your point it totally separate from the point he just made. The fact that you decided to make it personal is even more of a head scratcher. Please review the Comment Policy.
ZAP!! Can you here that BUZZ!!! Like for SAW!!! Again the LIAR IN CHIEF strikes again...just brutal.....Get it to the networks....spread all over the WEB!! Again FACTS HURT HEY MARXIST??? This fool really thinks that he can make promises and comments and then magically they will disappear!! CAN YOU YOU SAY STICK LIAR???? Very nice and again just brutal...the Marxist in his own words....lets see 100 years...okay President for 4 years and how have you helped Janesville Marxist???
Cat got your tongue????????????
Again spread the video and EXPOSE the Drag Queen Axelrod and Cutter the Gutter for the liars they are!!
I am a conservative christian who will not be voting for Mitt Romney. Romneycare provided for abortifacients with taxpayer money. And then Romney was dishonest about it. Aside from that, I have been researching what Mitt Romney believes and as a real christian I cannot vote for him. People should do some prayerful research.
A non vote is for Barry. You have every right to have your opinion, and not to vote, but if you are concerned about Romney's religion, I myself am very afraid of Barry, he is a Muslim....
Barry, has got all the gays, all the crazies on his side, and in another four years, all of us will be trying to figure out where we are going to get our next meal, health care, etc. as we will have a dictator named Barry.
If you have ever read anything about the muslims, you will know the first of the people who will have their heads cut off, will be the gays. Barry, has already let everyone know that he has no concerns about killing babies. He wants the babies dead even if they lived after a botched abortion.
I am a christian, and I will tell you that Romney, is the least of two evils. I also believe that Romney, does have a heart, and Barry, is totally lacking one.. BARRY, IS A MUSLIM!!!!! I hope you rethink, your not voting...
So, you identify yourself as a Conservative Christian (one who doesn't capitalize certain pronouns) however, your post history suggests otherwise;
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Wow, what an amazing blog I stumbled upon. Impressive stuff!! I am just popping in to remind everyone to support our Commander in chief. If more people realized what Romney was all about, they would run in the other direction and tell everyone they know.
Well what do you know, a classic Concern Troll. So, are you doing this voluntarily or are you a paid hack?
Additionally, I would refer you to Article VI of the U.S. Constitution (not the Soviet one); but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
Team Zero must be getting seriously desperate to sending in the "back benchers".
Well if you're going to stay home, you're helping Obama get re-elected. How much is freedom of religion respected by this administration? Not.Much.At.All.
Good luck with your "principled" position. This election is truly the last one if he gets 4 more years.
I understand your concerns. Romney was not the first choice of many people. But he is still much better than obama. And you are basing your concerns on a home made video made by someone about the Mormon faith? Very unfortunate. Go back to God and pray for more guidance.
You sound like an idiot...stay home and bury you head fool....good grief...dop idiots like this really exist....I cannot believe how stupid people are...YEAH YOU SHOW US IDIOT!! When the 4000 regulations that are sitting on Obama's desk are signed after the election...IT WILL EFFECT YOU NO MATTER WHAT HOLE YOU HIDE!! What a jerk....and then when Obamacare is engrained into the system Jerk...you will be the first one blaming everyone else except you!! Go find perfection in the next world...moron!
I respect the fact you don't want to vote for him. He is not prefect. The only thing perfect is GOD. I will vote for him because the amount of suffering this country will absorb under Obama for four more years is unthinkable.
There was no lie here. Everything Paul Ryan said in his speech is exactly what happened. Obama just wanted their votes and made empty promises he couldn’t keep, even after bailing out GM twice.
Is this implying Paul Ryan would have kept an anti-free enterprise promise and used big government to keep that plant open?
Seriously? We are arguing over who would keep their big government promises.
how did you get to that?
ryan said he lied, ryan did not say he himself would have kept the plant open.
What exactly does Ryan yes vote for the auto bailout imply? It certainly doesn't imply he believes in free enterprise and it certainly doesn't imply he believes government shouldn't be picking winners and losers or imply Ryan doesn't believe in big government solutions.
and I'm sure MSLSD will go on the air and apologize to Paul Ryan! All empty promises just like their president! I got a feeling this is going to be a mean convention! Because in 3 years with the white house and control of the congress and senate from 2006 to 2010...the democrats have nothing to show other than very unpopular bills and laws that the America people disagree with...Should be quite a party!
Well that rock solid. Obama said if government intervened, their plant wouldn't close. Sounds like they were on the verge of losing the plant and Obama promised intervention when he became President because he thinks Hybrids are the wave of the future. Thanks RS.
Had this "argument" with a libtard on FB (friend of a friend) the night after Ryan's speech:
Him: "Well, the plant closed in 2008, under Bush. Ryan blaming Obama is a huge distrotion of the FACTS".
Me: "No, GM LAID OUT its schedule in 2008, this plant was on the list, and slated for closure in early 2009. Did GM not get government support? Last check, they still owe us a SH!TLOAD of money. Did the plant still close in April 2009? Yes, it did. So, did then-Candidate Obama not seem to be saying, "Hey, vote for me. My administration will support you, and make sure that plants like this, scheduled to close, will keep their doors open." ? That's what it seems like, to me. ."
HIM: "Yeah, it was a business decision, and Obama had nothing to do with it."
I never bothered to reply. Notice how there was no reply to what I was saying?
I swear, these people just have ZERO ability to use logical deduction or to be honest in their assessment of a situation. I don't know if it's something they eat or drink, or a certain brain disease, but it's SOMETHING. You can hear the same stuff when they call the radio shows and try to "outsmart" El Rushbo or The Great One.
It's clear why Mark just hangs up the phone. There's no getting through, no penetration.
So we can dig up all the audio and video proof we'd like... I don't think it will matter one d@mn bit, and it certainly won't be reported by the media. Frustrating as all get-out, I'm tellin' ya.
There does seem to be a theme of irrational thinking and a lack of reasoning ability w liberals. It could have been the way they were raised and/or people they were exposed to and influenced by. Many liberals are book smart so I don't think it's a lack of intellect in most cases.
Can a conservative group put this in a ad with Paul Ryan's words, then clips of the media saying he was lying and then clips of Obama with the date and location of the speech... You have no idea how the left and the media are calling Paul's whole speech a lie and this is their example... The commercial can be about not trusting he media, that they have their own agenda and it isn't the truth.
This is Alinsky tactics, pick a small thing from a whole speeech, prove that this one thing is a lie discredit the whole speech, then discredit the speaker... Why do you think they keep harping on this stupid plant thing.
There was plenty of printed proof that night of what Ryan said and subsequently what Walker said (in the MSNBC ambush). But the libs try very hard to bait and switch. They argued more against what Ryan didn't say than what he said.
Of course, once the argument was out there, it didn't matter what the truth was or even what the point was. They had an attack point that people were going to remember. Unfortunately for them, some of us read Rules for Radicals and we all know their tactics. The counterattacks are stronger than the attacks and it has them in a tailspin.
They don't have the truth on their side. What they have on their side is mass media. When one gets the memo, they all get the memo and it is a matter of saturation. What they don't have is enough common sense to see that people are finally asking for proof of their allegations. What I refer to as 'We the People' just aren't buying it anymore and the media is confused.
What they have on their side is mass media. When one gets the memo, they all get the memo and it is a matter of saturation.
Was it Marx or Lenin who said, "a lie repeated 64 times becomes the truth." The Democrats have perfected this to an art form.
Edit: The Republican PR machine has to start factoring in what you said. Too many times, these R operatives go into these media battles expecting a balanced playing field, and getting railroaded instead. We are still behind the 8 ball with this one. But, Romney's strategy of going on offense with Medicare was a good start. I hope this is setting the tone with future hot button issues that the Dems love to demagogue R's with.
Chris Wallace, the Lib of Fox, was the first to make his comment after the Ryan speech. He had to get his two cents in that 'Fact Check' was on the GM comment. The dems always play the liar card, why because liars think they know how the game is played from experience! Just look at our administration....and the DNC keynote Slick Willie! These are liars extraordinaire!