West: Dishonest liberal tyranny wants control of your life

I don’t know what you’re talking about. I haven’t spammed anyone. Are you sure you’re posting to the right person?

I don’t know what you’re talking about. I haven’t spammed anyone. Are you sure you’re posting to the right person?

Ha, 40%-60% is all I can ever hope for at best for anyone on a liberal or conservative site to agree with me, I’ll take what I can get.

The series of threats of violence and/or death are at the center of both sides civil laws.

And the laws are an equal tyranny even more than I implied.

“Illegal behavior,” is WHATEVER the legislatures (see: popularity context oligarchy) decide.

Conservative tyranny = drug laws and 3 strike laws = you do what we arbitrarily say not to and we imprison you, if you resist we will beat you and if you resist badly enough we’ll be forced to shoot you. Also, if you find yourself in this situation 3 times you get imprisoned for life.

Liberal tyranny = healthcare regulations/mandate = you do not do what we arbitrarily say to and we imprison you, if you resist we beat you and if you resist badly enough we’ll be forced to shoot you.

Both laws apply to everyone, you only see the violence if you “decide to engage in illegal behavior.” That violence is imposed with no greater justification than a few hundred people hundreds of miles away said so.

“Tough on crime” legislation (ie. 3 strike laws, longer terms, effecting employment, and greater scopes made illegal).

If legislation and the very small police forces give you a sense of security, then you’ve bought into the illusion/theatre of the current system.

There is approximately 1 cop per 300 people in this country. Now, let’s be REALLY charitable and say that at any given point 50% of them are on the job and out in the community. That is 1 cop per 600 people, this society doesn’t maintain it’s order by policing, because the policing could never hope to hold down a people in that ratio if they didn’t want to go along.

Order in this society is not maintained by the laws and policing, it is maintained by the PEOPLE and the individuals in their recognition that some actions are immoral and that cooperation to some degree (even with the jerks like me) is ultimately more long term beneficial than just killing me or robbing me.

Now, there will always be a small % of the population which will not fit into that, sociopaths and such. Putting them aside, what we see largely is that crimes are committed out of either necessity, passion, or calculated risk. NO amount of policing will resolve any of those three.

Government meddling in such ways on the other hand, as shown through statistics by people like Thomas Sowell in the 80s, INCREASES those circumstances.

To just use your pointing to minorities in urban communities.
1. Abysmal public schooling, with high dropout rates or worthless education = large amounts of unskilled (but politically indoctrinated) urban youth.
2. Minimum wage laws = those unskilled youths are too expensive to hire to GET skills when compared to the value their labor provides.
3. those two lead to high unemployment in inner-city youths stuck in a cycle where they need skills to get out of poverty but can’t get the skills.
4. Unemployed people with no savings to add to unemployment checks to achieve subsistence get desperate.
5. Drugs and prostitution and other black market goods/services are relatively low skill requirement, high pay off with moderate risk. Since black markets are by definition avoiding the laws, there is no problem presented by minimum wage.
6. Having encouraged and fostered this situation, the government sees the symptoms and not the cause, declares the War on Drugs, War on Poverty, and Three Strike Laws.
7. The War on Drugs spikes the risk of the drug trade, raising the potential profit for basically the same skill requirement. This makes more people get into the market, making the “drug problem,” worse while the DEA and local cops are throwing people in prison for VICTIMLESS CRIMES which they had resorted to because of failed government interventions.
8. The War on Poverty incentived irresponsibility, poverty, and having no self-worth. It also fostered the mentality through media and STILL abysmal schooling that their situation is not their fault and they are helpless to get out of it so they have to rely on the government to do it. Is it any surprise people getting that message have high drug use?
9. These people being thrown in prison by “tough on crime” initiatives for crimes which have no victim, while in prison, learn how to be better criminals and grow embittered at this ridiculous system.
10. When they get out of prison, they are still unskilled, what skills they might have had are out of date, and they have a criminal record further keeping them from lawful employment. Does the high recidivism rate surprise anyone?
11. The Three Strike Law then has two key effects.
11a. It takes people who fall into recidivism and ends up giving life sentences to people who are guilty of drug or prostitution crimes or other crimes easily treated with restitution as opposed to punishment (which the victim then is forced to pay for).
11b. It makes the people who are on their third strike incentivized to bar absolutely nothing to ensure they don’t get caught.

That is my problem with nanny-state government and “tough on crime,” BS in just the example of minorities or inner-city communities.